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If we outlaw bazookas, then only outlaws will have bazookas

OZONE
OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    I know you are being sarcastic, but it's only NRA gun nuts that talk about confiscating guns.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510

    Pressing

    Sounds like you are stumped.

    Thought so.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    Well at least you're trying, I'll give you that.

    With a bazooka, you could take out the entire class in one shot. No reloads required.

    And yet, we don't see ANYBODY using them in crimes.

    Could it be because we've made them hard to get?

    Hmmmmmmm
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD_BKMccfoA

    Just doesn't seem practical to me, although the idea of launching mortar rounds into the quad from an advanced position does have some appeal.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
    What fully automatic weapons are available the public?
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    OZONE said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    Well at least you're trying, I'll give you that.

    With a bazooka, you could take out the entire class in one shot. No reloads required.

    And yet, we don't see ANYBODY using them in crimes.

    Could it be because we've made them hard to get?

    Hmmmmmmm
    "we've"

    lol.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    Well at least you're trying, I'll give you that.

    With a bazooka, you could take out the entire class in one shot. No reloads required.

    And yet, we don't see ANYBODY using them in crimes.

    Could it be because we've made them hard to get?

    Hmmmmmmm
    "we've"

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/we've
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
    What fully automatic weapons are available the public?
    That's the point.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
    What fully automatic weapons are available the public?

    Most, you just have to have the right license.


    https://youtu.be/9MBf_LvqUsQ
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited October 2015
    Those rednecks must have a hell of a lot to overcompensate for.
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    edited October 2015
    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
    What fully automatic weapons are available the public?
    That's the point.
    Huh? They aren't readily available, yet people still kill. Oregon has restrictive gun laws, yet people still kill. Illinois has restrictive gun laws, yet people still kill. New York has restrictive gun laws, yet people still kill. Murder is illegal, yet people still kill.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
    What fully automatic weapons are available the public?
    That's the point.
    Huh? They aren't readily available, yet people still kill. Oregon has restrictive gun laws, yet people still kill. Illinois has restrictive gun laws, yet people still kill. New York has restrictive......
    A guy trying to hold off a classroom with a knife, probably won't have a lot of success.

    I'm sure you can scale the concept up.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club
    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
    What fully automatic weapons are available the public?
    That's the point.
    Huh? They aren't readily available, yet people still kill. Oregon has restrictive gun laws, yet people still kill. Illinois has restrictive gun laws, yet people still kill. New York has restrictive......
    A guy trying to hold off a classroom with a knife, probably won't have a lot of success.

    I'm sure you can scale the concept up.
    A school that can protect itself from nut jobs isn't going to be a target. I'm quite sure you can't grasp the concept.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    How many southerners does it take to miss the point?
  • Blackie
    Blackie Member Posts: 499
    OZONE said:

    How many southerners does it take to miss the point?

    Your point is that of a fucking fucktarded fucktard.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    The Panzerschreck was superior to the bazooka.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:

    How many southerners does it take to miss the point?

    Your point is that of a fucking fucktarded fucktard.
    Answer the question.

    If outlawing something means that outlaws will use them in crimes, why don't we see bazookas used in crimes?
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:

    The Panzerschreck was superior to the bazooka.

    Those german national socialists were clever fucks.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:

    The Panzerschreck was superior to the bazooka.

    Those german national socialists were clever fucks.
    Yeah we are.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited October 2015
    Of course people will still be able to kill.

    But a depressed 22 yo won't be able to kill 11 class mates in a fit of anger without a lot of advanced planning, by which time his fit of anger may pass.

    He might take out 1 or 2. But he won't take out 11.

    Your response is as insufficient as the rest.


    Is this all this board has? No body brighter that can answer the question?

  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    a lot of people rage about what they don't understand under a set of assumptions they want to create.

    - Go live your own life.

    - Don't shoot up schools. 1. It's *not* cool and 2. doesn't sound like it would agree with you.

    - don't buy a gun. see 2. above
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    But if your gonna shoot up a school...

    Use a Panzerschreck, not a bazooka.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    Too bad Ozone's Hale-Bopp jump failed.

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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Blackie said:

    2001400ex said:

    Doogles said:

    OZONE said:

    Blackie said:

    OZONE said:


    This occurred to me today. Gun nuts say the same thing about guns all the time.

    But if this fallacy were really true, why don't we see people running around and committing crimes today with bazookas?

    Because the government has gone to great lengths to obtain and maintain the upper hand on the governed.
    Wat.


    We are told that if we outlaw guns, then only outlaws (criminals) will have them and the rest of us will be victimized by all of these outlaws and their guns.

    But why isn't that happening today with bazookas? They are outlawed. Why aren't outlaws running around with them committing crimes? I can't remember ever hearing of it.

    If I was a criminal, I'd sure as fuck want bazooka for my criminal activity.
    If I were to go "Postal", so to speak, I feel a bazooka would be a tactically limited option of weaponry. What's my get away plan? After I blow up the principle's office, how long will it take me to reload and finish off the gym teacher? How many missiles can my teenage angst carry?

    A shotgun, a few 9mms, and a backpack full of clips seems much more practical (and cheaper! I work at lasertag i'm not a millionaire dammit!)
    What about fully automatic weapons?
    What fully automatic weapons are available the public?
    As ozone said, this is exactly my point. The contention is that if you outlaw guns, only criminals will have them. Well fully automatic weapons are outlawed, how many crimes are committed with them?

    That being said, fully banning guns is silly. And there's no law that will stop every shooting. But there are things we can do as country to at least reduce them. Such as background checks on all sales. Better tracking of who owns guns. Limiting magazine sizes. I know that freaks some of you out, and all you can see is " tyranny " or "the government will then take over our country, guns are the only thing keeping them from controlling us". But these simple laws will save lives.