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Unless Woody and the PC Upper Campus are deal killers we don't know about, UW is a plum job. (The PC crap is intrenched in academia most everywhere, even in the SEC.)
Aaaaaaaaandy and Fleenor say UW will always be second tier coaching job because of the weather. BS. Columbus Ohio? Sun and Fun? Hardly, and Columbus is at par with Auburn or Kent as a place to live. (Funny how no one mentions the weather in Chicago or Boston, but they're really fun places?)
Seattle is a way hipper place than it was in the 70s when DJ got there. Seattle has been a happening place since the 90s, an international city with big time job ops for kids. Not to mention the best stadium in the country and a loyal (but stupid) fan base. If a coach can't make it happen at UW, he won't anywhere.
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January is really the best time to go to South Bend or Ann Arbor. Handy Andy and Bleenor retards.Steve_Bowman said:Unless Woody and the PC Upper Campus are deal killers we don't know about, UW is a plum job. (The PC crap is intrenched in academia most everywhere, even in the SEC.)
Aaaaaaaaandy and Fleenor say UW will always be second tier coaching job because of the weather. BS. Columbus Ohio? Sun and Fun? Hardly, and Columbus is at par with Auburn or Kent as a place to live. (Funny how no one mentions the weather in Chicago or Boston, but they're really fun places?)
Seattle is a way hipper place than it was in the 70s when DJ got there. Seattle has been a happening place since the 90s, an international city with big time job ops for kids. Not to mention the best stadium in the country and a loyal (but stupid) fan base. If a coach can't make it happen at UW, he won't anywhere.
Sometimes this stuff gets overlooked until you move. -
Race I hardly disagree with you but if you are going to yell doog at everyone who is a UW optimist, then I'll say the same at those who have grandiose expectations for UCLA. Based on DawgPassion206's rankings (which are based on championships, major bowl wins, conference winning seasons) UW is ahead of UCLA. If not for two things UCLA would be higher and a better job. It's a basketball school first and foremost and it has a national power in its backyard. Like I said, thats why it has never reached the heights UW did.
Mora could build a powerhouse at UCLA for sure. To say on a Saban level, hell no. And its FS to not see that UW as is right now is one of the best jobs in the country and better than its been a real long time. FWIW I think Sark leaves after this year or next. -
I know you were being sarcastic, but that's not what Race does.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Race I hardly disagree with you but if you are going to yell doog at everyone who is a UW optimist, then I'll say the same at those who have grandiose expectations for UCLA. Based on DawgPassion206's rankings (which are based on championships, major bowl wins, conference winning seasons) UW is ahead of UCLA. If not for two things UCLA would be higher and a better job. It's a basketball school first and foremost and it has a national power in its backyard. Like I said, thats why it has never reached the heights UW did.
Mora could build a powerhouse at UCLA for sure. To say on a Saban level, hell no. And its FS to not see that UW as is right now is one of the best jobs in the country and better than its been a real long time. FWIW I think Sark leaves after this year or next. -
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership. -
I believe Saban would make UCLA one of cfb's premier programs.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
I don't think he would make it far and away THE premier program, which is what he has done at Bama.
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To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons. -
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons. -
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you. -
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you.
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