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Again this isn't about Sark this is about you claiming why would Mora leave UCLA when he is building an Alabama like dynasty to come to UW?DerekJohnson said:
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you.
You just said Saban could turn around any program into a power house because ultimately coaching matters.
So why couldn't Mora turn UW into this Alabama like dynasty?
If Mora can make UCLA into Alabama of the west(which historically says really tough to do as it's difficult to go 3 out of 4) then why can't he at UW? -
Don James couldn't make UW into the Alabama of the West, so why would Mora be able to? But what I think Mora could do, is to make UW the UW of the West...the one that existed a couple a decades ago. For starters, he would patch the God Damn fence.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Again this isn't about Sark this is about you claiming why would Mora leave UCLA when he is building an Alabama like dynasty to come to UW?DerekJohnson said:
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you.
You just said Saban could turn around any program into a power house because ultimately coaching matters.
So why couldn't Mora turn UW into this Alabama like dynasty?
If Mora can make UCLA into Alabama of the west(which historically says really tough to do as it's difficult to go 3 out of 4) then why can't he at UW? -
BTW, I agree with you 100%. I think Derek's suggestion of Mora making UCLA being Bama of the west so why leave? Was a little out there.MikeDamone said:
Don James couldn't make UW into the Alabama of the West, so why would Mora be able to? But what I think Mora could do, is to make UW the UW of the West...the one that existed a couple a decades ago. For starters, he would patch the God Damn fence.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Again this isn't about Sark this is about you claiming why would Mora leave UCLA when he is building an Alabama like dynasty to come to UW?DerekJohnson said:
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you.
You just said Saban could turn around any program into a power house because ultimately coaching matters.
So why couldn't Mora turn UW into this Alabama like dynasty?
If Mora can make UCLA into Alabama of the west(which historically says really tough to do as it's difficult to go 3 out of 4) then why can't he at UW?
Mora would bring back the alums, no more former players kids choosing to go elsewhere, the "overrated" fence would now be praised on Doogman, we'd be a tough team. Basically be what Stanford has been the last three years. -
Straight out of the Broon handbook.RaceBannon said:DJ didn't say UCLA was Bama he said it could be built. Some of you need to learn the difference
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