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Let's take a look at this piece of doog doo:
Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone.
Not the case - Irish doog and the recent convert to doogdom after two wins - SnoopDoog. Nothing I have been saying about Mora since 2007 has been shown to be false.
I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
The ultimate doogdom - I haven't called Reggie a doog but the shoe looks like a good fit. Talking about Mora after the 2008 season is just fucking stupid. Period
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO.
You failed to prove the easy schedule. Miserably
While I bet he does well,
So why the fuck are you always making this lame ass post?
UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
last I checked USC was also in UW's conference. Don James had a losing record against one Pac 10 team - UCLA. UCLA gets better recruits. UCLA's tradition is at worst equal to UW. No one outside Seattle says it is worse. Mora got raises for his assistants and they can actually coach. Having Sark and Pool boy hire your assistants makes money meaningless
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
In that case bake the pie here he comes -
It could built into Bama. The right coach can do it anywhere. Even at little old shithole UW the doogs keep talking aboutdnc said:
ftfyRaceBannon said:DJ didn't say UCLA was Bama he said it could be built INTO BAMA. Some of you need to learn the difference
And no, UCLA with Mora will never be Bama with Saban. Anyone should be able to see the difference.
Fuck - even at Oregon. With the 4 team tournament UO is going to get a lot of shots at the Natty while doogs talk about how Don James was just like Sark and you can't expect much.
UCLA is in better position due to the Auburn Rules than anyone other than USC who Carroll built into Bama under Saban and Hackett and Kiffin built into UW under Sark
Its the fucking coach. If you can't see that you'll be in year five waiting to let it play out while being certain after 15 games that Mora isn't it -
The schedule rankings are tightly bunched and UCLA's schedule is 7th out of 12. The reason is because it played Stanford in the championship game. If not for that it would have been 11th.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Got a citation that says UCLA had the easiest schedule in the conference last year?
This usual citation didn't support your argument:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2012/conference/
Road- ASU, Cal, Colorado, WSU
Home- OSU, Stanford, Utah, USC, Arizona
It missed the best team, got 2-4 at home and ASU #5 was its toughest road game. -
"lol"HeretoBeatmyChest said:
The schedule rankings are tightly bunched and UCLA's schedule is 7th out of 12. The reason is because it played Stanford in the championship game. If not for that it would have been 11th.TierbsHsotBoobs said:Got a citation that says UCLA had the easiest schedule in the conference last year?
This usual citation didn't support your argument:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/2012/conference/
Road- ASU, Cal, Colorado, WSU
Home- OSU, Stanford, Utah, USC, Arizona
It missed the best team, got 2-4 at home and ASU #5 was its toughest road game.
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UCLA could easily be a powerhouse ala the Don James era Dawgs. Even greater. I'm not disputing that.RaceBannon said:
It could built into Bama. The right coach can do it anywhere. Even at little old shithole UW the doogs keep talking aboutdnc said:
ftfyRaceBannon said:DJ didn't say UCLA was Bama he said it could be built INTO BAMA. Some of you need to learn the difference
And no, UCLA with Mora will never be Bama with Saban. Anyone should be able to see the difference.
Fuck - even at Oregon. With the 4 team tournament UO is going to get a lot of shots at the Natty while doogs talk about how Don James was just like Sark and you can't expect much.
UCLA is in better position due to the Auburn Rules than anyone other than USC who Carroll built into Bama under Saban and Hackett and Kiffin built into UW under Sark
Its the fucking coach. If you can't see that you'll be in year five waiting to let it play out while being certain after 15 games that Mora isn't it
But let's be honest here. UCLA is never winning 3 out of 4 national championships. Not with Mora. Not with Saban.
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Not a liar, a satirist.RaceBannon said:Are you calling me a liar?
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Some of these people need to learn the difference.
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UCLA will never be a Alabama-type powerhouse. When USC hires a real coach next year they'll be taking over our conference.DerekJohnson said:
Leave UCLA to come work for Woodward? He could build an Alabama-type powerhouse at UCLA.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Really? With our schedule and talent we are poised to win 10+ next year with a good coach.DerekJohnson said:If Mora came back to us in our current state I would think him an idiot
New stadium, new facilities, good recruiting base, good market, etc. All the old guard would finally come back and embrace this program. He'd have us playing in the Rose Bowl within 3 years if not year one(2014).
Also UCLA's AD isn't that good either. Their stadium is still 40 miles away from campus. They still are a basketball school and value the Olympic sports too.
UCLA and UW have always been very similar. Don't discount the fact this is where Mora is from and his dream job. So if it's close at all he'd go to UW. -
UCLA has pie, UW has cake.He_Needs_More_Time said:
UCLA will never be a Alabama-type powerhouse. When USC hires a real coach next year they'll be taking over our conference.DerekJohnson said:
Leave UCLA to come work for Woodward? He could build an Alabama-type powerhouse at UCLA.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Really? With our schedule and talent we are poised to win 10+ next year with a good coach.DerekJohnson said:If Mora came back to us in our current state I would think him an idiot
New stadium, new facilities, good recruiting base, good market, etc. All the old guard would finally come back and embrace this program. He'd have us playing in the Rose Bowl within 3 years if not year one(2014).
Also UCLA's AD isn't that good either. Their stadium is still 40 miles away from campus. They still are a basketball school and value the Olympic sports too.
UCLA and UW have always been very similar. Don't discount the fact this is where Mora is from and his dream job. So if it's close at all he'd go to UW.
Not close.
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RaceBannon said:
Let's take a look at this piece of doog doo:
Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone.
Not the case - Irish doog and the recent convert to doogdom after two wins - SnoopDoog. Nothing I have been saying about Mora since 2007 has been shown to be false.
I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
The ultimate doogdom - I haven't called Reggie a doog but the shoe looks like a good fit. Talking about Mora after the 2008 season is just fucking stupid. Period
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO.
You failed to prove the easy schedule. Miserably
While I bet he does well,
So why the fuck are you always making this lame ass post?
UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
last I checked USC was also in UW's conference. Don James had a losing record against one Pac 10 team - UCLA. UCLA gets better recruits. UCLA's tradition is at worst equal to UW. No one outside Seattle says it is worse. Mora got raises for his assistants and they can actually coach. Having Sark and Pool boy hire your assistants makes money meaningless
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
In that case bake the pie here he comes
This.dnc said:
UCLA could easily be a powerhouse ala the Don James era Dawgs. Even greater. I'm not disputing that.RaceBannon said:
It could built into Bama. The right coach can do it anywhere. Even at little old shithole UW the doogs keep talking aboutdnc said:
ftfyRaceBannon said:DJ didn't say UCLA was Bama he said it could be built INTO BAMA. Some of you need to learn the difference
And no, UCLA with Mora will never be Bama with Saban. Anyone should be able to see the difference.
Fuck - even at Oregon. With the 4 team tournament UO is going to get a lot of shots at the Natty while doogs talk about how Don James was just like Sark and you can't expect much.
UCLA is in better position due to the Auburn Rules than anyone other than USC who Carroll built into Bama under Saban and Hackett and Kiffin built into UW under Sark
Its the fucking coach. If you can't see that you'll be in year five waiting to let it play out while being certain after 15 games that Mora isn't it
But let's be honest here. UCLA is never winning 3 out of 4 national championships. Not with Mora. Not with Saban. -
Unless Woody and the PC Upper Campus are deal killers we don't know about, UW is a plum job. (The PC crap is intrenched in academia most everywhere, even in the SEC.)
Aaaaaaaaandy and Fleenor say UW will always be second tier coaching job because of the weather. BS. Columbus Ohio? Sun and Fun? Hardly, and Columbus is at par with Auburn or Kent as a place to live. (Funny how no one mentions the weather in Chicago or Boston, but they're really fun places?)
Seattle is a way hipper place than it was in the 70s when DJ got there. Seattle has been a happening place since the 90s, an international city with big time job ops for kids. Not to mention the best stadium in the country and a loyal (but stupid) fan base. If a coach can't make it happen at UW, he won't anywhere.
Sometimes this stuff gets overlooked until you move. -
January is really the best time to go to South Bend or Ann Arbor. Handy Andy and Bleenor retards.Steve_Bowman said:Unless Woody and the PC Upper Campus are deal killers we don't know about, UW is a plum job. (The PC crap is intrenched in academia most everywhere, even in the SEC.)
Aaaaaaaaandy and Fleenor say UW will always be second tier coaching job because of the weather. BS. Columbus Ohio? Sun and Fun? Hardly, and Columbus is at par with Auburn or Kent as a place to live. (Funny how no one mentions the weather in Chicago or Boston, but they're really fun places?)
Seattle is a way hipper place than it was in the 70s when DJ got there. Seattle has been a happening place since the 90s, an international city with big time job ops for kids. Not to mention the best stadium in the country and a loyal (but stupid) fan base. If a coach can't make it happen at UW, he won't anywhere.
Sometimes this stuff gets overlooked until you move. -
Race I hardly disagree with you but if you are going to yell doog at everyone who is a UW optimist, then I'll say the same at those who have grandiose expectations for UCLA. Based on DawgPassion206's rankings (which are based on championships, major bowl wins, conference winning seasons) UW is ahead of UCLA. If not for two things UCLA would be higher and a better job. It's a basketball school first and foremost and it has a national power in its backyard. Like I said, thats why it has never reached the heights UW did.
Mora could build a powerhouse at UCLA for sure. To say on a Saban level, hell no. And its FS to not see that UW as is right now is one of the best jobs in the country and better than its been a real long time. FWIW I think Sark leaves after this year or next. -
I know you were being sarcastic, but that's not what Race does.HeretoBeatmyChest said:Race I hardly disagree with you but if you are going to yell doog at everyone who is a UW optimist, then I'll say the same at those who have grandiose expectations for UCLA. Based on DawgPassion206's rankings (which are based on championships, major bowl wins, conference winning seasons) UW is ahead of UCLA. If not for two things UCLA would be higher and a better job. It's a basketball school first and foremost and it has a national power in its backyard. Like I said, thats why it has never reached the heights UW did.
Mora could build a powerhouse at UCLA for sure. To say on a Saban level, hell no. And its FS to not see that UW as is right now is one of the best jobs in the country and better than its been a real long time. FWIW I think Sark leaves after this year or next. -
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership. -
I believe Saban would make UCLA one of cfb's premier programs.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
I don't think he would make it far and away THE premier program, which is what he has done at Bama.
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To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons. -
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons. -
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you. -
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you. -
Again this isn't about Sark this is about you claiming why would Mora leave UCLA when he is building an Alabama like dynasty to come to UW?DerekJohnson said:
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you.
You just said Saban could turn around any program into a power house because ultimately coaching matters.
So why couldn't Mora turn UW into this Alabama like dynasty?
If Mora can make UCLA into Alabama of the west(which historically says really tough to do as it's difficult to go 3 out of 4) then why can't he at UW? -
Don James couldn't make UW into the Alabama of the West, so why would Mora be able to? But what I think Mora could do, is to make UW the UW of the West...the one that existed a couple a decades ago. For starters, he would patch the God Damn fence.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Again this isn't about Sark this is about you claiming why would Mora leave UCLA when he is building an Alabama like dynasty to come to UW?DerekJohnson said:
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you.
You just said Saban could turn around any program into a power house because ultimately coaching matters.
So why couldn't Mora turn UW into this Alabama like dynasty?
If Mora can make UCLA into Alabama of the west(which historically says really tough to do as it's difficult to go 3 out of 4) then why can't he at UW? -
BTW, I agree with you 100%. I think Derek's suggestion of Mora making UCLA being Bama of the west so why leave? Was a little out there.MikeDamone said:
Don James couldn't make UW into the Alabama of the West, so why would Mora be able to? But what I think Mora could do, is to make UW the UW of the West...the one that existed a couple a decades ago. For starters, he would patch the God Damn fence.He_Needs_More_Time said:
Again this isn't about Sark this is about you claiming why would Mora leave UCLA when he is building an Alabama like dynasty to come to UW?DerekJohnson said:
We shall agree to disagree. If you can't see how Mora's results and incredible recruiting put to shame Sark's first 1.2 years at UW, I can't help you.He_Needs_More_Time said:
You are still doing what the Doogs did with Sark though. You should let it play out.DerekJohnson said:
I agree with your opening statement, but my thoughts toward Mora stem from the potential I see in him, in much the same way I was so excited the first few times I saw Napoleon Kaufman carry the football as a freshman.He_Needs_More_Time said:
To be fair in most of our lifetimes you can count on one hand a program who has won three out of four national titles. I can think of Alabama and Nebraska of the 90's that's it.DerekJohnson said:
So, playing Devil's advocate, if Nick Saban went to UCLA you don't think within 3-4 years he would have one college football's premier programs?HeretoBeatmyChest said:Derek and Race are basically UCLA/Mora doogs. Derek makes bombastic statements while Race is a parrot yelling doog at everyone. I like Mora and wish he was our coach, but he's not. Fuck Emmert and Hedges. He should have been hired twice. But when they did offer he said no.
He won 9 games last year with the easiest schedule in the conference and a mediocre defense. LIFPO. While I bet he does well, UCLA's program has never reached the heights UW's has and probably because of USC's presence. UW has better tradition, better facilities, stronger fan base, and probably higher assistant salaries.
FWIW, Fleenor agrees with you. Thinks Mora would never leave UCLA.
If you agree with that statement, then it disproves your comments about tradition, etc. It goes to show, as always, that it starts at the top with leadership and the willingness to pay for that level of leadership.
You have to go back to the 1930's to find a team who 3-peated. What Saban has done at Bama is rare and to suggest Mora could do that is a little insane.
If the roles were reversed and Sark was 11-5 and a Doog said that you'd be all over him. Yet you are doing the same with Mora?
Let's wait until Mora wins a conference title before we start dropping Saban comparisons.
Mora could be the next Saban/Carroll but he could also be another solid coach who can't get over the hump. Last year for year one was solid but he did get his ass handed to him in the bowl game, to a terrible Cal team and lost back to back to Stanford.
Again, I like Mora but if you can't see how you are talking up Mora is how Doogs talk up Sark then I can't help you.
You just said Saban could turn around any program into a power house because ultimately coaching matters.
So why couldn't Mora turn UW into this Alabama like dynasty?
If Mora can make UCLA into Alabama of the west(which historically says really tough to do as it's difficult to go 3 out of 4) then why can't he at UW?
Mora would bring back the alums, no more former players kids choosing to go elsewhere, the "overrated" fence would now be praised on Doogman, we'd be a tough team. Basically be what Stanford has been the last three years. -
Straight out of the Broon handbook.RaceBannon said:DJ didn't say UCLA was Bama he said it could be built. Some of you need to learn the difference