You know its a Shitty day when you Hit the Tarmac and...

PurpleBaze said:

AZDuck said:

PurpleBaze said:

whlinder said:

PurpleBaze said:

whlinder said:

And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:


Gurgle

But how are Asians shitty pilots?

These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.

It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster

I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.

A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.

Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.

In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.

Sounds like you kind of care, but not really

I have a little familiarity with flight safety, CRM, in-flight emergencies, and checklists. So yeah, I do care.

Not all Asian carriers are bad. But, they do need a change in their culture. I think it's holding them back when it comes to aviation safety. Things used to be that way in the US. It wasn't until the late 70s / early 80s that deliberate effort was made by the airlines and pilots to make a change. The real catalyst was when United crashed a DC-8 just short of the runway in Portland, because they were trying to troubleshoot a problem and they ran out of fuel. All 3 guys were focused on that one light and nobody was monitoring anything else. On top of that, the captain was a total asshole.

PurpleBaze said:

AZDuck said:

PurpleBaze said:

whlinder said:

PurpleBaze said:

whlinder said:

And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:


Gurgle

But how are Asians shitty pilots?

These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.

It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster

I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.

A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.

Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.

In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.

Sounds like you kind of care, but not really

I have a little familiarity with flight safety, CRM, in-flight emergencies, and checklists. So yeah, I do care.

Not all Asian carriers are bad. But, they do need a change in their culture. I think it's holding them back when it comes to aviation safety. Things used to be that way in the US. It wasn't until the late 70s / early 80s that deliberate effort was made by the airlines and pilots to make a change. The real catalyst was when United crashed a DC-8 just short of the runway in Portland, because they were trying to troubleshoot a problem and they ran out of fuel. All 3 guys were focused on that one light and nobody was monitoring anything else. On top of that, the captain was a total asshole.

BayDawg said: