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But how are Asians shitty pilots?whlinder said:And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:

Gurgle
These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed. -
I saw that plane take off from SeaTac this morning.
(not the Taiwanese plane that crashed, the Oregon/Horizon Air plane) -
Cool story, bro...AZDuck said:I saw that plane take off from SeaTac this morning.
(not the Taiwanese plane that crashed, the Oregon/Horizon Air plane) -
They did pretty good at Pearl Harbor...PurpleBaze said:
But how are Asians shitty pilots?whlinder said:And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:

Gurgle
These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed. -
It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:PurpleBaze said:
But how are Asians shitty pilots?whlinder said:And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:

Gurgle
These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster
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#NeverForgetRaccoonHarry said:
They did pretty good at Pearl Harbor...PurpleBaze said:
But how are Asians shitty pilots?whlinder said:And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:

Gurgle
These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
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I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.whlinder said:
It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:PurpleBaze said:
But how are Asians shitty pilots?whlinder said:And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:

Gurgle
These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster
A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.
Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.
In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.
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Sounds like you kind of care, but not reallyPurpleBaze said:
I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.whlinder said:
It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:PurpleBaze said:
But how are Asians shitty pilots?whlinder said:And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:

Gurgle
These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster
A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.
Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.
In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't. -
I have a little familiarity with flight safety, CRM, in-flight emergencies, and checklists. So yeah, I do care.AZDuck said:
Sounds like you kind of care, but not reallyPurpleBaze said:
I like to refer an incident that happened 25 years ago, that's what I like to do.whlinder said:
It's been done by Old, Rich, White pilots too:PurpleBaze said:
But how are Asians shitty pilots?whlinder said:And then that airplane tried to fly to the Natty:

Gurgle
These guys lost an engine and proceeded to shut down the good engine. Twin engine turboprops don't glide too well, especially at low airspeed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegworth_air_disaster
A lot has changed over the past 15-20 years in crew resource management (CRM). Correctly diagnosing the problem and verifying the malfunctioning system take precedence over trying to run checklists quickly.
Some Asian carriers don't have a good safety record. It comes from lack of experience by their pilots and a culture where the captain is king. If he's fucking up, the first officer is hesitant to challenge him.
In any case, I could type a Tequilla-esque diatribe about this stuff, but I won't.
Not all Asian carriers are bad. But, they do need a change in their culture. I think it's holding them back when it comes to aviation safety. Things used to be that way in the US. It wasn't until the late 70s / early 80s that deliberate effort was made by the airlines and pilots to make a change. The real catalyst was when United crashed a DC-8 just short of the runway in Portland, because they were trying to troubleshoot a problem and they ran out of fuel. All 3 guys were focused on that one light and nobody was monitoring anything else. On top of that, the captain was a total asshole. -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Airlines_Flight_261
Glad our field is named after a company that completely fucked up routine ground maintenance and killed almost 100 people




