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Obamacare cost jobs?

2001400ex
2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
http://m.fool.com/investing/high-growth/2015/08/09/is-obamacare-costing-america-jobs?source=eogyholnk0000001

Since being implemented, U.S. nonfarm payrolls have expanded from 137.5 million in Dec. 2013 to 141.8 million as of June 2015.
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  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited August 2015
    The only jobs he has cost are the american born white guys whose only skill set is mowing lawns.

    And actually, most of that began a long while ago.

    Now that I think about it, I haven't had an unskilled white guy mow my lawn since 1993 or so.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    edited August 2015
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:
    So your boss at your lawn mowing job hasn't offered you full time yet?

    Upgrade your skills, and you'll get a better job.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:

    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:
    So your boss at your lawn mowing job hasn't offered you full time yet?

    Upgrade your skills, and you'll get a better job.
    If you took Macro 101, you would know that reduced disposable income for a large group is bad for everyone. Fuck off.
    How large is your group? Do you have proof it is worse now than it was 8 years ago?

    Also, it is more complicated that you learned in Macro 101. If you took any 400 level Econ courses, you might know that.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    Pretty sure the group @PurpleJ is referring to is the fucking middle class. Just to let you know, although shrinking, it's still a pretty large "group".
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    OZONE said:

    PurpleJ said:
    So your boss at your lawn mowing job hasn't offered you full time yet?

    Upgrade your skills, and you'll get a better job.
    I'm working to get my 40 time down to a 4.2 cause I figure that will be extremely marketable.

    I seem to have hit a bit of a plateau.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    HuskyInAZ said:

    Pretty sure the group @PurpleJ is referring to is the fucking middle class. Just to let you know, although shrinking, it's still a pretty large "group".

    Oh thanks. Thought he meant his group of lawn mower workers.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    OZONE said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Pretty sure the group @PurpleJ is referring to is the fucking middle class. Just to let you know, although shrinking, it's still a pretty large "group".

    Oh thanks. Thought he meant his group of lawn mower workers.
    If you paid your lawn mowers better, they might be middle class, you cheap ass.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    HuskyInAZ said:

    OZONE said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    Pretty sure the group @PurpleJ is referring to is the fucking middle class. Just to let you know, although shrinking, it's still a pretty large "group".

    Oh thanks. Thought he meant his group of lawn mower workers.
    If you paid your lawn mowers better, they might be middle class, you cheap ass.
    Unlike other liberals, I believe the concept of a "living wage" is total bullshit.

    If somebody wants to be middle class, they need middle class skills.

    Mowing lawns isn't a middle class skill. It is for high school kids, burnouts, and recent immigrants hustling to improve their lives.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Looks like I won this argument.


    Again.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:

    Looks like I won this argument.


    Again.

    Interesting.

    The "again" is Race's schtick.

    I'm seeing a pattern.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    I'd rather learn from a winner. Simple fact.
  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited August 2015
    PurpleJ said:

    I'd rather learn from a winner. Simple fact.

    You mean the guy that had the perfect chance to say it to Ty's face... but puss'd out?

    That is a winner right there.

    With winners like that, you guys deserved 0-12.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    PurpleJ said:

    I'd rather learn from a winner. Simple fact.

    Flagged for implying Race is a winner.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    Holy shit HondaFS.

    Everything about Obama's jobs and economic record points to it being shitty, from it being the worst recovery since WW2, there being 2X the number of part time employees now as there were in 2007 (yeah, cause the Obamacare impact would only start at the end of 2013...effin moron), to having 2X the debt, to having salaries decreasing for 80% of Americans, to having record number of people out of the workforce, to having 45+ million still on SNAP, to what was the new info this weekend...every female job created since 2007 went to an immigrant or something...sounds like a war on women now as well, etc. etc.

    And yet you are the dumb fuck that finds 1 article every so often from some moron (a Motley Fool blogger with an obsession with the marijuana industry now...really?) and uses that to validate your speed-limit IQ view of the world. Amazing.

    I'm guessing a hobby of yours is looking at shiny objects as well?
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Holy shit HondaFS.

    Everything about Obama's jobs and economic record points to it being shitty, from it being the worst recovery since WW2, there being 2X the number of part time employees now as there were in 2007 (yeah, cause the Obamacare impact would only start at the end of 2013...effin moron), to having 2X the debt, to having salaries decreasing for 80% of Americans, to having record number of people out of the workforce, to having 45+ million still on SNAP, to what was the new info this weekend...every female job created since 2007 went to an immigrant or something...sounds like a war on women now as well, etc. etc.

    And yet you are the dumb fuck that finds 1 article every so often from some moron (a Motley Fool blogger with an obsession with the marijuana industry now...really?) and uses that to validate your speed-limit IQ view of the world. Amazing.

    I'm guessing a hobby of yours is looking at shiny objects as well?

    Fuck you are stupid. You actually believe that shit you type?

    Not to mention your news source blasted obamacare saying it would crater jobs. Not sure what stats you have but any job growth is the exact opposite of cratering.
  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    How would you know ? You can't even conjugate a verb.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited August 2015

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    usgovernmentdebt.us/spending_chart_1999_2019USr_H0t
    2008 it was 12.55. In 2016 its estimated to be 22.5

    washingtonexaminer.com/jobs-shock-100-of-female-employment-gains-taken-by-foreigners-since-2007/article/2569824
    bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab7.htm
    All of the employment gains among women since the recession hit in December 2007 have been taken by foreigners, even at a time when the numbers of U.S.-born women surged more than 600,000, according to new federal statistics.

    Sorry...call it Obama's war on American women...

    Need proof on the other accurate data points on Obama's shitty economy?

    Now go crawl into a hole and cry yourself to sleep for suffering from whatever disease you appear to have that results in a declining IQ on almost a daily basis. Hey...I would say it would make you eligible for disability payments but I'm guessing you are already milking that cow.

    You don't even use the correct chart. You linked to risk gross government debt, not federal debt. So really the number went from $11.9 trillion to an estimated $9 trillion. That's not double.

    For you workers chart, first is only 25+. What about the rest of the workers? Second, extend that chart to 2015. I see a clear trend.

    Did you actually go into the BLS website and look at the stats? It shows 800k more native born women are working now. From 62.1 million to 62.9 million. Your news source totally lied to you. And you bought it. Fuck you are stupid.

    Normally I would think a post like that is a wooosh. But your past posting history suggests otherwise.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    I should expect a moron like you not to be able to understand how to use the govt website.

    I'll give you instructions:
    1) Click here: bls.gov/webapps/legacy/cpsatab7.htm
    2) Under "Women", click the box for "Foreign born, 16 years and over" -> "Civilian noninstitutional population" -> "Employed"
    3) Under "Women", click the box for "Native born, 16 years and over" -> "Civilian noninstitutional population" -> "Employed"
    4) Click the button "Retrieve Data"

    Article claim: "Jobs shock: 100% of female employment gains taken by foreigners since 2007"

    Foreign Born Female Workers:
    Dec 2007: 9041, July 2015 10028

    Native Born Female Workers:
    Dec 2007: 59332, July 2015 59258


    Whooo..hoo...part time is down, what 5%/yearly from 2013 so now its only up 170% from pre-recession levels? But, 6 YEARS AFTER the end of the recession it can't be due to the policies put in place by Obama.

    Moron.


  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    All that chart shows, is that as the economy improved from 07 to 09, more people in general went back to work. And as more people return to work, that will naturally increase the number of people in all categories of hours per week.

    Again, if you can't find a better job with better hours, improve your skills. It isn't Obama's fault that you didn't pay attention in school and dropped out or graduated with a PolySci degree.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    edited August 2015
    OZONE said:

    All that chart shows, is that as the economy improved from 07 to 09, more people in general went back to work. And as more people return to work, that will naturally increase the number of people in all categories of hours per week.

    Again, if you can't find a better job with better hours, improve your skills. It isn't Obama's fault that you didn't pay attention in school and dropped out or graduated with a PolySci degree.

    Funny...its 2015 now.

    image

    2 Peas in a pod...

  • OZONE
    OZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    edited August 2015

    OZONE said:

    All that chart shows, is that as the economy improved from 07 to 09, more people in general went back to work. And as more people return to work, that will naturally increase the number of people in all categories of hours per week.

    Again, if you can't find a better job with better hours, improve your skills. It isn't Obama's fault that you didn't pay attention in school and dropped out or graduated with a PolySci degree.

    Funny...its 2015 now.


    And you still haven't found a better job?

    What skills do you have for which you can't find work?

    There are a lot of full time job openings out there if you have the skills.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000
    That's your response?

    I guess its better than misreading the BLS website...a brilliant comparison of Speed limit IQs responses from dumb and dumber...
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,470 Founders Club
    d2d said:

    How would you know ? You can't even conjugate a verb.

    HR, YK.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    salemcoog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Holy shit HondaFS.

    Everything about Obama's jobs and economic record points to it being shitty, from it being the worst recovery since WW2, there being 2X the number of part time employees now as there were in 2007 (yeah, cause the Obamacare impact would only start at the end of 2013...effin moron), to having 2X the debt, to having salaries decreasing for 80% of Americans, to having record number of people out of the workforce, to having 45+ million still on SNAP, to what was the new info this weekend...every female job created since 2007 went to an immigrant or something...sounds like a war on women now as well, etc. etc.

    And yet you are the dumb fuck that finds 1 article every so often from some moron (a Motley Fool blogger with an obsession with the marijuana industry now...really?) and uses that to validate your speed-limit IQ view of the world. Amazing.

    I'm guessing a hobby of yours is looking at shiny objects as well?

    Fuck you are stupid. You actually believe that shit you type?

    Not to mention your news source blasted obamacare saying it would crater jobs. Not sure what stats you have but any job growth is the exact opposite of cratering.
    I like to trumpet an uptick in part time low paying jobs,while incomes remain stagnant.

    I also like to do it when celebrating the same President who railroaded another trade agreement that will ship even more good paying jobs off-shore. IWILTD.
    Read for comprehension.