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Has a recruit ever mentioned Jonathan Smith as a reason they committed?

Gladstone
Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
in The Fisching Hole (Recruiting)
Or mentioned him in any positive light? Or any light at all? Honest question because I can't recall hearing about him ever.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    No, but to my knowledge coordinators typically don't recruit much. They do when players are on campus, but the leg work is done by the position coaches.
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  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    He hasn't been fired yet?
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    RoadDawg55 said:

    No, but to my knowledge coordinators typically don't recruit much. They do when players are on campus, but the leg work is done by the position coaches.

    Fair point, but when the head coach is talked about by recruits as having a relationship with them infinitely more that the OC........
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  • bananasnblondes
    bananasnblondes Member Posts: 15,515
    Did any recruit ever mention Eric Kiesau as the reason they committed?
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  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    edited August 2015
    bananasnblondes said:

    Did any recruit ever mention Eric Kiesau as the reason they committed?

    I don't recall who recruits called out as an influence for their commitment 2 years ago. Getting old ain't pretty. But I've heard commits name Coach K as a factor recently.

    As for Kiesau, exactly where is he coaching today?

    Here are a few coordinators that I think are known as good/great recruiters in the P12.....

    Noel Mazzone - OC - UCLA
    Mike Norvell - OC - ASU
    Scott Frost - OC - Oregon
    Don Pellum - DC - Oregon
    Justin Wilcox - DC - USC
    Kalani Sitake - DC - Oregon State

    I'm sure there are more. I just don't pay close enough attention.
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  • CokeGreaterThanPepsi
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi Member Posts: 7,646
    Smith only recruits QBs
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  • FremontTroll
    FremontTroll Member Posts: 4,744
    CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

    Smith only recruits QB

    Well, one anyways.
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,401
    With Keith B, Chris Strausser, and Jordan Papao being the point men for the O ring recruiting, I don't mind that Smith is seen as a below average recruiter.

    The thing that bothers me (beyond the shit sandwich last year) is that I don't know what his offensive philosophy is or what he wants the O's identity to be.

    I'm hoping that will change because the offense didn't really lose much from 2014. Miles was an inefficient QB (low ypa in the passing game and not a good runner) and while good pre-injury, KW couldn't get healthy and Riva went out for the season so they didn't play much anyway.

    So with more of the guys the O staff recruited on the roster now, he needs to have the offense show more consistency and competency.

    And an improved offense would be something he could talk about with recruits, at least when he's not at the farmer's market

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  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    HuskyInAZ said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    Did any recruit ever mention Eric Kiesau as the reason they committed?

    I don't recall who recruits called out as an influence for their commitment 2 years ago. Getting old ain't pretty. But I've heard commits name Coach K as a factor recently.

    As for Kiesau, exactly where is he coaching today?

    Here are a few coordinators that I think are known as good/great recruiters in the P12.....

    Noel Mazzone - OC - UCLA
    Mike Norvell - OC - ASU
    Scott Frost - OC - Oregon
    Don Pellum - DC - Oregon
    Justin Wilcox - DC - USC
    Kalani Sitake - DC - Oregon State

    I'm sure there are more. I just don't pay close enough attention.
    Mazzone is a terrible recruiter. From what I follow I would strike out Norvell and Wilcox too.
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    HuskyInAZ said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    Did any recruit ever mention Eric Kiesau as the reason they committed?

    I don't recall who recruits called out as an influence for their commitment 2 years ago. Getting old ain't pretty. But I've heard commits name Coach K as a factor recently.

    As for Kiesau, exactly where is he coaching today?

    Here are a few coordinators that I think are known as good/great recruiters in the P12.....

    Noel Mazzone - OC - UCLA
    Mike Norvell - OC - ASU
    Scott Frost - OC - Oregon
    Don Pellum - DC - Oregon
    Justin Wilcox - DC - USC
    Kalani Sitake - DC - Oregon State

    I'm sure there are more. I just don't pay close enough attention.
    He isn't. He's an off-the-field assistant for Alabama.

    Kinda funny how Sark didn't bring his OC of 2 years with him down to USC, wasn't retained by Petersen, was a WR coach at Kansas for a year and now doesn't even have coaching duties.
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  • Muttzen
    Muttzen Member Posts: 1,015
    edited August 2015
    whatshouldicareabout said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    Did any recruit ever mention Eric Kiesau as the reason they committed?

    I don't recall who recruits called out as an influence for their commitment 2 years ago. Getting old ain't pretty. But I've heard commits name Coach K as a factor recently.

    As for Kiesau, exactly where is he coaching today?

    Here are a few coordinators that I think are known as good/great recruiters in the P12.....

    Noel Mazzone - OC - UCLA
    Mike Norvell - OC - ASU
    Scott Frost - OC - Oregon
    Don Pellum - DC - Oregon
    Justin Wilcox - DC - USC
    Kalani Sitake - DC - Oregon State

    I'm sure there are more. I just don't pay close enough attention.
    He isn't. He's an off-the-field assistant for Alabama.

    Kinda funny how Sark didn't bring his OC of 2 years with him down to USC, wasn't retained by Petersen, was a WR coach at Kansas for a year and now doesn't even have coaching duties.
    Keith price would phone Nuss after he left for Bama to ask for advice instead of listening to Kiesau. just what I remember, don't twist
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    RoadDawg55 said:

    whatshouldicareabout said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    bananasnblondes said:

    Did any recruit ever mention Eric Kiesau as the reason they committed?

    I don't recall who recruits called out as an influence for their commitment 2 years ago. Getting old ain't pretty. But I've heard commits name Coach K as a factor recently.

    As for Kiesau, exactly where is he coaching today?

    Here are a few coordinators that I think are known as good/great recruiters in the P12.....

    Noel Mazzone - OC - UCLA
    Mike Norvell - OC - ASU
    Scott Frost - OC - Oregon
    Don Pellum - DC - Oregon
    Justin Wilcox - DC - USC
    Kalani Sitake - DC - Oregon State

    I'm sure there are more. I just don't pay close enough attention.
    He isn't. He's an off-the-field assistant for Alabama.

    Kinda funny how Sark didn't bring his OC of 2 years with him down to USC, wasn't retained by Petersen, was a WR coach at Kansas for a year and now doesn't even have coaching duties.
    I don't know how good of a coach Kiesau is, but he got caught in no man's land. Sark had a lot of pressure to retain Helton and Tee Martin (WR coach) is considered a great recruiter and also coached Marquis Lee and Robert Woods.

    A year ago, poasters here mocked Tosh for being an off the field assistant for Alabama. Now, he's the LB coach. Kiffin was an off the field assistant as well and is now the OC. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what Kiesau is doing. Maybe it's not such a bad gig?
    I thought Tosh did things the wrong way, or at least that's just what I was hearing. Sounds like Nick Saban is imploding, don't twist. #doogtalk
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    The only real answer to the original question is:

    Of course not.
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  • DugtheDoog
    DugtheDoog Member Posts: 3,180
    HuskyInAZ said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    No, but to my knowledge coordinators typically don't recruit much. They do when players are on campus, but the leg work is done by the position coaches.

    Fair point, but when the head coach is talked about by recruits as having a relationship with them infinitely more that the OC........
    I remember Nussmeier being mentioned quite a bit by recruits, actually. Kiesau I heard mentioned a few times but mostly by lower-level guys or QBs talking about what they did on their visit which obviously would include meeting with their OC. Before that, Tim Lappano was just a lights-out recruiter. Everybody wanted to play for him. Same with John Pettas. Ace recruiter and quarterback whisperer, is what I heard. But Lappano and Pettas never had to deal with a quarterback who had trust issues either.
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  • LoneStarDawg
    LoneStarDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,681 Founders Club
    edited August 2015
    I'm not recalling any Peterman recruits saying any reasons they committed, I don't need to be patronized.
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  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,991
    DugtheDoog said:

    HuskyInAZ said:

    RoadDawg55 said:

    No, but to my knowledge coordinators typically don't recruit much. They do when players are on campus, but the leg work is done by the position coaches.

    Fair point, but when the head coach is talked about by recruits as having a relationship with them infinitely more that the OC........
    I remember Nussmeier being mentioned quite a bit by recruits, actually. Kiesau I heard mentioned a few times but mostly by lower-level guys or QBs talking about what they did on their visit which obviously would include meeting with their OC. Before that, Tim Lappano was just a lights-out recruiter. Everybody wanted to play for him. Same with John Pettas. Ace recruiter and quarterback whisperer, is what I heard. But Lappano and Pettas never had to deal with a quarterback who had trust issues either.
    For real or satire?
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