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  • Member Posts: 1,005
    Mora was demoted?
  • Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
  • Member Posts: 15,268
    Finally get him for 2Pac also while you're at it.
  • Member Posts: 56,839
    HuskyJW said:

    Finally get him for 2Pac also while you're at it.

    Obligatory

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qC3w3UUkU
  • Member Posts: 14,754
    edited July 2015
    dnc said:

    Obligatory

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41qC3w3UUkU
    Having 2Pac on that song with the rest of those clowns is surreal. When 2Pac's not rapping it's like the janitorial staff at his studio got on the fucking mic.

    Also, those morons are all dressed like they robbed a dumpster that had the contents of Kohl's big and tall section.

    Get a decent posse man! Christ.

    2Pac is so fucking good that he can be on a song for two verses with some fucking mall janitors dressed in JC Penney rejects and still make it a classic.
  • Member Posts: 30,128

    Having 2Pac on that song with the rest of those clowns is surreal. When 2Pac's not rapping it's like the janitorial staff at his studio got on the fucking mic.

    Also, those morons are all dressed like they robbed a dumpster that had the contents of Kohl's big and tall section.

    Get a decent posse man! Christ.

    2Pac is so fucking good that he can be on a song for two verses with some fucking mall janitors dressed in JC Penney rejects and still make it a classic.
    Damn, that's a good post. Pac eventually got a decent posse.

    image

    The real posse that was nothing to fuck with is this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfOJaoeE3mQ

    I have to share my Sir-Mix-A-Lot story. I knew a girl who lived in Auburn. I'm not gonna put up pics. Anyways, she had a party and Sir-Mix-A-Lot was her neighbor. This was probably 2003 or 2004. He lived in a big house with yellow grass and dead plants. The house had gone to shit too.

    Sir Mix was in his front yard grilling and drinking beer with a couple of friends. His friends were two fat, ugly white guys and a meth head looking chick. A couple of us dumb kids went over to say what up to Mix. He was nice enough, whatever. A dumbass kid in the group starts beat boxing and tells Mix to start spitting. He wasn't feeling it and one of the fat, ugly white dudes asked us to go. The end.
  • Member Posts: 56,839
    edited July 2015



    Damn, that's a good post. Pac eventually got a decent posse.

    image

    The real posse that was nothing to fuck with is this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfOJaoeE3mQ

    I have to share my Sir-Mix-A-Lot story. I knew a girl who lived in Auburn. I'm not gonna put up pics. Anyways, she had a party and Sir-Mix-A-Lot was her neighbor. This was probably 2003 or 2004. He lived in a big house with yellow grass and dead plants. The house had gone to shit too.

    Sir Mix was in his front yard grilling and drinking beer with a couple of friends. His friends were two fat, ugly white guys and a meth head looking chick. A couple of us dumb kids went over to say what up to Mix. He was nice enough, whatever. A dumbass kid in the group starts beat boxing and tells Mix to start spitting. He wasn't feeling it and one of the fat, ugly white dudes asked us to go. The end.
    Mostly good poast, but your history is backwards. One of the reasons for the Machiavelli album was to position the Outlaw Immortalz for greater prominence. They all had names of famous HHB's assholes from history. He was trying to bring them along ala Junior Mafia, and the rebrand was a big part of the process.

    Obviously, his posse sucked ass. When Biggie got smoked Puffy's solo career exploded. When Pac got smoked, the Immortalz faded quickly into history. Not one of them had what it took to use the massive spotlight from Pac's death (or faked death!) to make even a decent career for himself.

    IIRC it was one of the Immortalz who was next to Pac when he got capped.
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    Damn, that's a good post. Pac eventually got a decent posse.

    image

    The real posse that was nothing to fuck with is this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfOJaoeE3mQ

    I have to share my Sir-Mix-A-Lot story. I knew a girl who lived in Auburn. I'm not gonna put up pics. Anyways, she had a party and Sir-Mix-A-Lot was her neighbor. This was probably 2003 or 2004. He lived in a big house with yellow grass and dead plants. The house had gone to shit too.

    Sir Mix was in his front yard grilling and drinking beer with a couple of friends. His friends were two fat, ugly white guys and a meth head looking chick. A couple of us dumb kids went over to say what up to Mix. He was nice enough, whatever. A dumbass kid in the group starts beat boxing and tells Mix to start spitting. He wasn't feeling it and one of the fat, ugly white dudes asked us to go. The end.
    Big houses past their prime with unkempt overgrown yards and rusty basketball hoops without nets depress the shit out of me. Nothing screams peaked ten years ago and hanging on by a royalty check thread like a dilapidated structure tribute to 1993.

    Knew a dude in Sac whose family inherited a mansion from their crazy rich grandpa, the family produced zero income the next ten years and the house was frozen in time. Just living off the man's life work and not taking care of his legacy, depressing.

    Makes you question saving money for future generations. Had he known how it was going to go down postmortem, you have to believe he would have gone to vegas for a few extra hookers and blow orgies.
  • Member Posts: 9,208
    why do you hate reverse mortgages?
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    Having 2Pac on that song with the rest of those clowns is surreal. When 2Pac's not rapping it's like the janitorial staff at his studio got on the fucking mic.

    Also, those morons are all dressed like they robbed a dumpster that had the contents of Kohl's big and tall section.

    Get a decent posse man! Christ.

    2Pac is so fucking good that he can be on a song for two verses with some fucking mall janitors dressed in JC Penney rejects and still make it a classic.
    2Pac sucks.

    Thug life? Really?

    He used to be a stage dancer, doing the fucking running man in a frat bro Polo for Humpty videos.

    Chump life
  • Member Posts: 13,325
    Biggie>>>>>>>>Pac

    Debate me.
  • Member Posts: 14,754
    edited July 2015
    CaptainPJ said:

    2Pac sucks.

    Thug life? Really?

    He used to be a stage dancer, doing the fucking running man in a frat bro Polo for Humpty videos.

    Chump life
    Debating how seriously you should take his lyrics as a rapper, his persona or music in general (pretty sure Zep weren't a bunch of fucking wizards or whatever their music—or the hi-fucking-larious fantasy montage in Song Remains The Same—seemed to want us to believe) is one thing.

    Debating whether he's a good rapper is another.

    Included for video evidence:
    image
  • Member Posts: 30,128

    Biggie>>>>>>>>Pac

    Debate me.

    I agree. You can throw on Biggie at a party and create a vibe. He has multiple bangers. Pac is good, but it's more riding in your car alone stuff. He was a talented guy though. Good actor too.

    I do think the almost universally accepted premise that these two are the greatest rappers of all time is FS. If Nas died in '96 after his second album, people would probably put him in there.
  • Member Posts: 14,754

    I agree. You can throw on Biggie at a party and create a vibe. He has multiple bangers. Pac is good, but it's more riding in your car alone stuff. He was a talented guy though. Good actor too.

    I do think the almost universally accepted premise that these two are the greatest rappers of all time is FS. If Nas died in '96 after his second album, people would probably put him in there.
    If I'm making a list of the top 5-7 (tribute to our '09 record!) rappers of all time (which I'm not because I'm too lazy to do that shit) these guys are not on it. They were just popular when rap was getting really popular.

    There were people better before them (Rakim) and after (who the fuck knows, but I assume someone was).
  • Member Posts: 14,754

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxCXz1jRRdk

    On Tupac & Tyler Perry: “Tupac might be a political leader if he was alive, but then again, Tupac might be in a Tyler Perry movie right now, so you don’t know. He might be – Tupac might be the bad, dark-skinned boyfriend and the Tyler Perry movie … I would hope he’s a senator, but he might be kicking Jill Scott down a flight of stairs. In Tyler Perry movies there’s always, OK – there’s a woman and she usually is in a bad relationship and the person she’s in a bad relationship tends to have darker skin. And then she meets a nicer guy – who tends to have lighter skin. And he sweeps her off her feet. And that dark-skinned guy is mean on a level you’ve probably never seen in movies. So, yeah it’s not – it wouldn’t be crazy for Tupac to be kicking Jill Scott down a flight of stairs in a Tyler Perry movie.”

    -Chris Rock

    At some point Chris Rock put a ton of fucking blanks in his chamber, but this is proof he still has some live rounds left.
  • Member Posts: 56,839
    edited July 2015

    I agree. You can throw on Biggie at a party and create a vibe. He has multiple bangers. Pac is good, but it's more riding in your car alone stuff. He was a talented guy though. Good actor too.

    I do think the almost universally accepted premise that these two are the greatest rappers of all time is FS. If Nas died in '96 after his second album, people would probably put him in there.
    I'm sure there are whiter things than judging a rapper by his bangers, but there can't be that many. Fuck, it's that mentality that made JaRule a thing.

    ROTNAH
  • Member Posts: 30,128
    dnc said:

    I'm sure there are whiter things than judging a rapper by his bangers, but there can't be that many. Fuck, it's that mentality that made JaRule a thing.

    ROTNAH
    Disagree. Biggie has better, more entertaining songs. Pac was deeper and possibly more talented, but a lot of his music is kind of boring to me. You stack up their best 20 songs and Biggie wins. There is a balance between substance and entertainment. Mos Def is a great rapper, but I'd rather listen to DMX. ACDC and Van Halen over Radiohead. Same concept. I'm not a music critic trying to be the smartest guy in the world with my critiques and opinions. It's not like I'm saying Flo Rida is good.
  • Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Andre Nickatina > Tupac
  • Member Posts: 56,839

    Disagree. Biggie has better, more entertaining songs. Pac was deeper and possibly more talented, but a lot of his music is kind of boring to me. You stack up their best 20 songs and Biggie wins. There is a balance between substance and entertainment. Mos Def is a great rapper, but I'd rather listen to DMX. ACDC and Van Halen over Radiohead. Same concept. I'm not a music critic trying to be the smartest guy in the world with my critiques and opinions. It's not like I'm saying Flo Rida is good.
    Must just be personal preference but I think Pac's 20 best songs are more entertaining than Biggie's 20 best. Props for recognizing Pac was more talented though. I can't argue with your ACDC/Van Halen over Radiohead poont. Good stuff.
  • Member Posts: 807
    All eyes on me is straight full of dre "bangers"

    Not tupac's favorite, but i think its fucking great

    Either disc gets the vibe going at any kind of basement party
  • Member Posts: 56,839

    All eyes on me is straight full of dre "bangers"

    Not tupac's favorite, but i think its fucking great

    Either disc gets the vibe going at any kind of basement party

    Book 2 > Book 1
  • Member Posts: 8,771
    One guy made Dead Wrong. The other guy made Dear Mama. Nuff said on that.
  • Member Posts: 846

    One guy made Dead Wrong. The other guy made Dear Mama. Nuff said on that.

    The Five Stair Steps and Zapp & Roger weep.

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