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9 Black People Gunned Down at Bible Study, Obvious Hate Crime

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  • BlackieBlackie Member Posts: 499
    OZONE said:

    And you don't have a protected right for anything beyond a well regulated militia.
    The "militia" at the time the constitution was written wasn't what we think of as "militia" today. It was those (in addition to the army and navy) that the US government could call upon to serve at the whim of the government. Damned right the government's forces should be "well regulated" by an armed populace free to defend themselves.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,567 Founders Club

    And more would occur if people were required to do very minimal, or zero training to operate a car

    C'mon, you're better than the dumbshit knee jerk response.
    Cars kill more people than guns in the US. HTH.
  • PurpleJPurpleJ Member Posts: 37,567 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    Holy shit that flew over your head.
    No. It didn't.
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    PurpleJ said:

    Cars kill more people than guns in the US. HTH.
    Holy shit. Does common sense need to be spoon fed to you? To compare them, you'd need to normalize for the amount of time each person uses each. Get it?
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    The "militia" at the time the constitution was written wasn't what we think of as "militia" today. It was those (in addition to the army and navy) that the US government could call upon to serve at the whim of the government. Damned right the government's forces should be "well regulated" by an armed populace free to defend themselves.
    And that is the only group that is guaranteed a "right" to arms. The rest was just revisionist action by the gov't to please the gun manufacturers, their shills the NRA, and those that grew up beating off to John Wayne movies.
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    The right to bare arms in defense of oneself from all aggressors including but not limited to government forces is a natural right that always existed. The 2nd Amendment documented that the government could not take away that right.
    Think about this. The right to self defense has always existed. But the right to have guns, has not. How could the right to guns have existed before guns existed?

    Any right to guns, exists only because the gov't allows it -- just like it does not allow individuals to own bazookas or anti aircraft guns.

    The NRA has been brainwashing you.

  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,675 Founders Club
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Blackie said:

    The extent to which the constitution and the second amendment speak to this issue isn't about "guns". It's about "arms" (i.e. weapons).
    Great. Then you can use knives -- and guns can be regulated as heavily as bazookas and anti aircraft weapons.
  • OZONEOZONE Member Posts: 2,510
    Swaye said:

    Dear Ozone,

    Blackie is schooling you. Stop while you're ahead.

    Sincerely,

    The Bored

    You are sitting on the unknowing side of what's called confirmation bias.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    PurpleJ said:

    Cars kill more people than guns in the US. HTH.
    Exactly and there's shit ton of regulations on vehicles, tests of ability, suspension of license. Now if we only had the same for guns.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,326 Founders Club

    This thread delivers.
  • AZDuckAZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited June 2015
    Swaye said:

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    Counterpoint:

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    Isle Gun Death Rate Lowest In U.S.

    Not having borders with states that sell guns to whoever helps
  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    The people arguing for guns always remind me of religious people. It's funny how all arguments sound the same when you've made up your mind first and come up with the argument second.

    Just admit you love guns and that's all that matters.
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