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71 Percent of MSNBC Viewers Think Rachel Dolezal is Black...

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,717 Founders Club
    That's not what that means. They are still stupid but they think she is white but black. A reverse oreo
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited June 2015
    71% of viewers of wherever the FS place you get news from think black people and gays should be burned at the stake.

    Not to mention, your lack of comprehension is incomprehensible.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    AZDuck said:

    "transracial" =/= "black"

    You are not smart. Maybe context isn't your thing.

    Is this why you think you got a "BATTLEFIELD COMMISSION?"

    I'm all for bashing d2d, but once Bruce Jenner was embraced as transgender it was no longer okay to call *him* a *him*. He's now a women as far as society is telling us. Hell, he's *always* been a women as far we are told. So if the same form holds, and why wouldn't it, Dolezal being transracial is the same as being black, if we embrace transracial as a thing.

    Personally I think transracial is a bunch of bullshit.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    The fact that d2d thinks he's smarter than, well, anyone, is what I find amusing.

    Shut your ass, d2d. You're dumber than a sack of fuckin' hammers, so fuck you.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    That's not what that means. They are still stupid but they think she is white but black. A reverse oreo

    and a mud shark, allegedly.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,020
    d2d said:

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    Missing the entire point of the thread.

    The Asian chick in the pic is Kelly Hu/viagara hot.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,020

    dnc said:

    AZDuck said:

    "transracial" =/= "black"

    You are not smart. Maybe context isn't your thing.

    Is this why you think you got a "BATTLEFIELD COMMISSION?"

    I'm all for bashing d2d, but once Bruce Jenner was embraced as transgender it was no longer okay to call *him* a *him*. He's now a women as far as society is telling us. Hell, he's *always* been a women as far we are told. So if the same form holds, and why wouldn't it, Dolezal being transracial is the same as being black, if we embrace transracial as a thing.

    Personally I think transracial is a bunch of bullshit.
    I specifically said no transracial crap.
    Can you go blind being a transracist?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.
  • Muttzen
    Muttzen Member Posts: 1,015
    ITT: heliphobes, check your vehicle privilege
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381

    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.

    I don't know enough of the facts to really know what the hell is going on. I assume that there is some kind of family drama happening since Dolezal's parents outed her as white. I know she was raised in a house with AA kids and is still raising one AA kid her parents adopted. She was also married to an AA guy, went to a HBCU. Wannabe? I have no idea. Trading on false blackness to get ahead? If so, I agree w/APAG. But I don't know and I have more important things to concern my beautiful mind with.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.

    They're both flavors of the same thing. I personally don't care what others do so long as they're not infringing on other's individual rights, but truth is truth, regardless of this run amok PC bullshit.

    Bruce Jenner is a guy. Dressing like a woman, injecting himself with estrogen, paying a surgeon to surgically alter his facial structure, paying another surgeon to implant silicone prosthetic breasts, and paying yet another one to cut off his nuts, surgically alter his penis to resemble a clitoris and carve out a cavity from his perineum does not make him a woman. What this makes him is a dude who chooses to look like Jessica Lange down to the nitty gritty details. Jenner was born with an XY chromosome pair and that defines him as a him. The rest is boulder dash. Jenner is a wealthy man who can afford such nonsense and he's not hurting anyone by doing so, so if it makes him feel good, good on him, just don't infringe on the rights of rational human beings to accurately identify him as a him (albeit altered) rather than as a woman. Good grief.

    Obviously, the mud shark is no more black after painting her skin and dying and perming her hair to make her look black than she was when she was born. She's white, caucasian. She's not hurting anyone by pretending at this point, but the fact that she obtained a high level position with the NAACP while covertly masquerading as black is very suspicious, it smacks of opportunism. That's between her and the NAACP at this point. What's hilarious in this case is watching the left scramble to fit this one into their out of control PC narrative. She's a train wreck, and about to ink a reality TV deal while her notoriety is high. Double good grief, we as so fucked.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.

    Voted down for buying into the obvious marketing bullshit.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.

    I actually agree with you. I think gender dysphoria is a real thing, though I imagine we have different thoughts on how to treat it. I also think this women is full of shit.

    It does raise the question though, if we accept that one can have a different mental gender than physical gender, what precludes the possibility of someone having a different mental race than physical race? If someone says they *feel* like a women therefore we decide to treat them as a woman, why does someone *feeling* black or white or young or old or anything else preclude us from embracing them as such?

    It's definitely a slippery slope, I'm just curious what type of standard do we set to keep trasnidentiies from popping up all over?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,584 Standard Supporter

    dnc said:

    AZDuck said:

    "transracial" =/= "black"

    You are not smart. Maybe context isn't your thing.

    Is this why you think you got a "BATTLEFIELD COMMISSION?"

    I'm all for bashing d2d, but once Bruce Jenner was embraced as transgender it was no longer okay to call *him* a *him*. He's now a women as far as society is telling us. Hell, he's *always* been a women as far we are told. So if the same form holds, and why wouldn't it, Dolezal being transracial is the same as being black, if we embrace transracial as a thing.

    Personally I think transracial is a bunch of bullshit.
    I specifically said no transracial crap.
    Rimshot: http://youtu.be/oShTJ90fC34
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.

    I should add, I specifically said "if we embrace transracial as a thing". I'm not saying we should, I'm just saying if it's a thing why wouldn't the same form hold?
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    dnc said:

    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.

    I actually agree with you. I think gender dysphoria is a real thing, though I imagine we have different thoughts on how to treat it. I also think this women is full of shit.

    It does raise the question though, if we accept that one can have a different mental gender than physical gender, what precludes the possibility of someone having a different mental race than physical race? If someone says they *feel* like a women therefore we decide to treat them as a woman, why does someone *feeling* black or white or young or old or anything else preclude us from embracing them as such?

    It's definitely a slippery slope, I'm just curious what type of standard do we set to keep trasnidentiies from popping up all over?
    Here's a pretty good article about it.

    http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/06/17/3670801/transracial-adoption-rachel-dolezal-caitlyn-jenner/

    We shouldn't accept anything just because that's how someone "feels". That's a pretty good place to start the standard. A feeling isn't enough. You should be able to demonstrate how it is you feel that way and defend why you feel that way. Psychologists should be able to identify it. There should be some amount of science behind it, the majority of which should back up your claim.

    Dolezal pulled this out of thin air. She can't demonstrate it, she can't defend it. She uses empty phrases like "identify with the black experience". And there's certainly no science to back up what she's saying.
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839

    dnc said:

    God fucking dammit. This is so embarrassing. I hate the left as much as anyone when shit like this happens.

    DNC said "if the same form holds" but that's the thing the same form shouldn't hold because it's not the same fucking thing. Caitlyn Jenner is going through something real. This bitch is just making shit up.

    Caitlyn Jenner isn't ok because everything should be ok. We can't just accept everything. That's literally the slippery slope. We have to be discerning. And this racist cunt and anyone that supports her are clueless fucking clowns.

    I actually agree with you. I think gender dysphoria is a real thing, though I imagine we have different thoughts on how to treat it. I also think this women is full of shit.

    It does raise the question though, if we accept that one can have a different mental gender than physical gender, what precludes the possibility of someone having a different mental race than physical race? If someone says they *feel* like a women therefore we decide to treat them as a woman, why does someone *feeling* black or white or young or old or anything else preclude us from embracing them as such?

    It's definitely a slippery slope, I'm just curious what type of standard do we set to keep trasnidentiies from popping up all over?
    Here's a pretty good article about it.

    http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/06/17/3670801/transracial-adoption-rachel-dolezal-caitlyn-jenner/

    We shouldn't accept anything just because that's how someone "feels". That's a pretty good place to start the standard. A feeling isn't enough. You should be able to demonstrate how it is you feel that way and defend why you feel that way. Psychologists should be able to identify it. There should be some amount of science behind it, the majority of which should back up your claim.

    Dolezal pulled this out of thin air. She can't demonstrate it, she can't defend it. She uses empty phrases like "identify with the black experience". And there's certainly no science to back up what she's saying.
    Good response, haven't had time to read the article but I'm interested. As I said before I think gender dystopia is a thing, I don't think racial dystopia is a thing. That said, where do you stand on handling gender dystopia with kids? Do you think a child should be allowed to use whichever bathroom at school he/she/insert gender neutral term here prefers based on their professed identity? Or do you think that's too early to conclude that the kid actually has gender dystopia/transgender and it is wiser to wait until it's fully identifiable?

    I'm not pretending to have these answers, I'm just genuinely curious to hear your (and others') opinions on this.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,717 Founders Club
    I think we need to be sure we are using actual psychiatry on the whole gender thing and not allowing it to be political. Before we allow someone to mutilate themselves we should be sure. Does it effect me? No. But I care about people other than rich celebs who are struggling with these things.

    We don't let an anorexic starve because they identify as fat when they are thin as a rail. We don't let schizophrenics loose, If the transgender thing is an illness it should be treated as such. If it is shown that surgery treats it and the person lives a good life after, then go for it.

    Where is the data on post surgery? Probably on the internet but I don't care that much
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam

    I think we need to be sure we are using actual psychiatry on the whole gender thing and not allowing it to be political. Before we allow someone to mutilate themselves we should be sure. Does it effect me? No. But I care about people other than rich celebs who are struggling with these things.

    We don't let an anorexic starve because they identify as fat when they are thin as a rail. We don't let schizophrenics loose, If the transgender thing is an illness it should be treated as such. If it is shown that surgery treats it and the person lives a good life after, then go for it.

    Where is the data on post surgery? Probably on the internet but I don't care that much

    Yeah - we DO allow anorexics to starve themselves, and let schizophrenics loose. What fuckin' planet do you live on?

    And who the fuck needs your permission to surgically alter themselves?

    Do you have to "accept it"? Of course not. But nobody needs your permission to do whatever the fuck they want if they aren't breaking laws.

    Sounds to me you want to babysit people more than care about them. Mind your own fuckin' business Race.

    Oh yeah - *affect
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    edited June 2015
    dflea said:

    I think we need to be sure we are using actual psychiatry on the whole gender thing and not allowing it to be political. Before we allow someone to mutilate themselves we should be sure. Does it effect me? No. But I care about people other than rich celebs who are struggling with these things.

    We don't let an anorexic starve because they identify as fat when they are thin as a rail. We don't let schizophrenics loose, If the transgender thing is an illness it should be treated as such. If it is shown that surgery treats it and the person lives a good life after, then go for it.

    Where is the data on post surgery? Probably on the internet but I don't care that much

    Yeah - we DO allow anorexics to starve themselves, and let schizophrenics loose. What fuckin' planet do you live on?

    And who the fuck needs your permission to surgically alter themselves?

    Do you have to "accept it"? Of course not. But nobody needs your permission to do whatever the fuck they want if they aren't breaking laws.

    Sounds to me you want to babysit people more than care about them. Mind your own fuckin' business Race.

    Oh yeah - *affect
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  • d2d
    d2d Member Posts: 3,109
    edited June 2015

    I think we need to be sure we are using actual psychiatry on the whole gender thing and not allowing it to be political. Before we allow someone to mutilate themselves we should be sure. Does it effect me? No. But I care about people other than rich celebs who are struggling with these things.

    We don't let an anorexic starve because they identify as fat when they are thin as a rail. We don't let schizophrenics loose, If the transgender thing is an illness it should be treated as such. If it is shown that surgery treats it and the person lives a good life after, then go for it.

    Where is the data on post surgery? Probably on the internet but I don't care that much

    Anecdotal evidence is all that matters to Libtards; it's even OK to make it up according to Hillary.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279

    I think we need to be sure we are using actual psychiatry on the whole gender thing and not allowing it to be political. Before we allow someone to mutilate themselves we should be sure. Does it effect me? No. But I care about people other than rich celebs who are struggling with these things.

    We don't let an anorexic starve because they identify as fat when they are thin as a rail. We don't let schizophrenics loose, If the transgender thing is an illness it should be treated as such. If it is shown that surgery treats it and the person lives a good life after, then go for it.

    Where is the data on post surgery? Probably on the internet but I don't care that much

    Sounds like you care...
  • Miley_Cyrus
    Miley_Cyrus Member Posts: 832
    So is blackfacing acceptable again?