Rooting for USC to fail is rooting for Oregon to succeed
3. Nike $$$ for facilities
2. They have hired good coaches
1. By far the biggest reason: USC, UCLA and Washington have hired a series of bad coaches (Fingers crossed Sark breaks that trend) and have underperformed vs their historic levels. Kids who should be playing in LA or Seattle are going to Eugene.
If the big three get their act together Oregon (and Stanford) will slide back to mediocrity.
C'mon Haden, pull the trigger and hire a real football coach.
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DOOG POST O' THE WEEK!
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How about just worrying about how to make Washington better? USC being great again only makes your problems worse. Or are you one of those fans that accepts mediocrity from your own program as long as your rivals suck more?
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Oregon made themselves great period irregardles of any other team. When you doogs figure that out you won't be crossing your fingers in year 5 of the latest shitty coach UW hires.
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Had Pete Carroll stayed at USC he would have lost to chip a time or two.
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BSU game assured me that we are a threat to Oregon.
Call it what you want, but UW definitely opened eyes last week. They're also raised concerns in Eugene.
Bottom line, whatever Oregon can do, many other schools can do better, including UW. Why? More and better resources. Oregon has Phil Knight and Nike. What more can Oregon do that others aren't catching up to, and even surpassing?
Oregon is still in Eugene, it's nowhere near the quality school as many in the Pac-12, and very aware of what's going on up North.
Should be an interesting game this year. Duck fans will be more nervous this year than in quite some time. Youll be able to tell the amount of anxiety with the amount of trash talk by the fans. Expect a lot of that from Eugene this year -
Oregon was already on it's way when Carroll was still at USC. They beat USC two out of Carroll's last three years, plunger raping USC in 2009.
Look at all the guys Oregon recruits. A lot of them are national recruits. Why should those players be playing in Seattle or LA?
Your post is filled with inaccuracies. USC will be fine once they fire Kiffin. The big 3? It's not 1990 you fucking imbecile. Oregon isn't going anywhere. -
Recruiting is a zero sum game. If UW, USC and UCLA are all strong Oregon will stop getting kids like DAT and Mariotta.
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Hi there.
Chip Kelly helped the Ducks gain national attention in 2009 after an upset of the then #5 USC Trojans on October 31. Kelly became the first Pac-10 coach to win an outright conference championship in his first season, sending the Ducks to the Rose Bowl for the first time since 1995. Oregon also became the first Pac-10 team to win a conference title by two games since Washington accomplished the feat in 1991. On December 7, 2009 Kelly was named Pac-10 Coach of the year. He was the second Ducks coach to earn the honor, the other being Rich Brooks (two times). (LOL!)
That USC team was coached by crappy Pete Carroll.
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I said all three need to be strong. Oregon rose as UW and UCLA fell. USC declining will just make things worse.
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When in history have all three USC, UCLA and UW been simultaneously strong?Auburndawg said:I said all three need to be strong. Oregon rose as UW and UCLA fell. USC declining will just make things worse.
Not often.
Yet Oregon still sucked.
Then Oregon got their shit together.
Hope that helps.
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Like I said, USC will be fine once Kiffin is gone. It's not like they don't have talent on their team. Oregon isn't going anywhere even if all 3 teams are strong.Auburndawg said:I said all three need to be strong. Oregon rose as UW and UCLA fell. USC declining will just make things worse.
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greenblood said:
How about just worrying about how to make Washington better? USC being great again only makes your problems worse. Or are you one of those fans that accepts mediocrity from your own program as long as your rivals suck more?
We don't call him AuburndoogFuckingStupid for nothing.
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1. Maybe. Let's see how good Boise is. Nevermind. Let's just see how good UW can continue to be. Whether "concerns" have been raised in Eugene . . . probably no more than usual. UW has has had some other decent wins last few years, and it hasn't translated to beating Oregon in a decade.dnc said:BSU game assured me that we are a threat to Oregon.
Call it what you want, but UW definitely opened eyes last week. They're also raised concerns in Eugene.
Bottom line, whatever Oregon can do, many other schools can do better, including UW. Why? More and better resources. Oregon has Phil Knight and Nike. What more can Oregon do that others aren't catching up to, and even surpassing?
Oregon is still in Eugene, it's nowhere near the quality school as many in the Pac-12, and very aware of what's going on up North.
Should be an interesting game this year. Duck fans will be more nervous this year than in quite some time. Youll be able to tell the amount of anxiety with the amount of trash talk by the fans. Expect a lot of that from Eugene this year
2. Duh. Whatever any school can do, another can do better ... given the right circumstances. Nobody cares that Oregon is in Eugene, any more than they do that Florida is in Gainsville and Oklahoma is in Norman and Nebraska in Lincoln and Penn State in Happy Valley and ... and .... Doesn't matter. Never has. Academics? Is that why we used to get everyone to come here? Back when we were ranked #76 in the US News and WR? Are you serious? How does Arizona and ASU recruit then? Texas A&M? Any school in the SEC not named Vanderbilt? This is such a loser line of reasoning.
3. Trash talk - so, by logical extension, does that mean you're nervous too?
Oregon got good. Phil isn't going anywhere, and as long as he's there, they won't tolerate a coach who isn't getting it done. THAT is why they are good. It's a priority. If it becomes a priority here again, and it seems to be, then we will be good ... again. But that won't make them bad by itself.
I do love the "return to the mean" theory. Of course UW will be good again. But this idea that there is some rightful trilogy in the conference is laughable. -
Look up the words "correlation" and "causation". Then start another thread.Auburndawg said:I said all three need to be strong. Oregon rose as UW and UCLA fell. USC declining will just make things worse.
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Auburndawg said:
Recruiting is a zero sum game. If UW, USC and UCLA are all strong Oregon will stop getting kids like DAT and Mariotta.
Not necessarily. Each can only have 85. If this theory held true, then UW should not have landed Shaq ... but it did, even after 7-6.
Don't tell me - he's a brilliant aspiring computer science student and came here to study.
Oregon got DAT when USC still looked like a viable place to play. It must've been the cheating. -
This is going to be my favorite poast of the season.dnc said:BSU game assured me that we are a threat to Oregon.
Call it what you want, but UW definitely opened eyes last week. They're also raised concerns in Eugene.
Bottom line, whatever Oregon can do, many other schools can do better, including UW. Why? More and better resources. Oregon has Phil Knight and Nike. What more can Oregon do that others aren't catching up to, and even surpassing?
Oregon is still in Eugene, it's nowhere near the quality school as many in the Pac-12, and very aware of what's going on up North.
Should be an interesting game this year. Duck fans will be more nervous this year than in quite some time. Youll be able to tell the amount of anxiety with the amount of trash talk by the fans. Expect a lot of that from Eugene this year -
You must be new herecreepycoug said:
1. Maybe. Let's see how good Boise is. Nevermind. Let's just see how good UW can continue to be. Whether "concerns" have been raised in Eugene . . . probably no more than usual. UW has has had some other decent wins last few years, and it hasn't translated to beating Oregon in a decade.dnc said:BSU game assured me that we are a threat to Oregon.
Call it what you want, but UW definitely opened eyes last week. They're also raised concerns in Eugene.
Bottom line, whatever Oregon can do, many other schools can do better, including UW. Why? More and better resources. Oregon has Phil Knight and Nike. What more can Oregon do that others aren't catching up to, and even surpassing?
Oregon is still in Eugene, it's nowhere near the quality school as many in the Pac-12, and very aware of what's going on up North.
Should be an interesting game this year. Duck fans will be more nervous this year than in quite some time. Youll be able to tell the amount of anxiety with the amount of trash talk by the fans. Expect a lot of that from Eugene this year
2. Duh. Whatever any school can do, another can do better ... given the right circumstances. Nobody cares that Oregon is in Eugene, any more than they do that Florida is in Gainsville and Oklahoma is in Norman and Nebraska in Lincoln and Penn State in Happy Valley and ... and .... Doesn't matter. Never has. Academics? Is that why we used to get everyone to come here? Back when we were ranked #76 in the US News and WR? Are you serious? How does Arizona and ASU recruit then? Texas A&M? Any school in the SEC not named Vanderbilt? This is such a loser line of reasoning.
3. Trash talk - so, by logical extension, does that mean you're nervous too?
Oregon got good. Phil isn't going anywhere, and as long as he's there, they won't tolerate a coach who isn't getting it done. THAT is why they are good. It's a priority. If it becomes a priority here again, and it seems to be, then we will be good ... again. But that won't make them bad by itself.
I do love the "return to the mean" theory. Of course UW will be good again. But this idea that there is some rightful trilogy in the conference is laughable.
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spot on. we can compete without having to hope Oregon falls down. if they do, all the better, but it's not a condition precedent.RoadDawg55 said:Oregon was already on it's way when Carroll was still at USC. They beat USC two out of Carroll's last three years, plunger raping USC in 2009.
Look at all the guys Oregon recruits. A lot of them are national recruits. Why should those players be playing in Seattle or LA?
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Why can't Oregon be strong, and UW is strong with them? Since when does Oregon have to be shit for UW to be any good?
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Yes. Today is my birthday.
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Hi Harv.creepycoug said:Auburndawg said:Recruiting is a zero sum game. If UW, USC and UCLA are all strong Oregon will stop getting kids like DAT and Mariotta.
Not necessarily. Each can only have 85. If this theory held true, then UW should not have landed Shaq ... but it did, even after 7-6.
Don't tell me - he's a brilliant aspiring computer science student and came here to study.
Oregon got DAT when USC still looked like a viable place to play. It must've been the cheating.
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Harv? I'm not in that guy's league. You got the real creep here. No more; no less.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hi Harv.creepycoug said:Auburndawg said:Recruiting is a zero sum game. If UW, USC and UCLA are all strong Oregon will stop getting kids like DAT and Mariotta.
Not necessarily. Each can only have 85. If this theory held true, then UW should not have landed Shaq ... but it did, even after 7-6.
Don't tell me - he's a brilliant aspiring computer science student and came here to study.
Oregon got DAT when USC still looked like a viable place to play. It must've been the cheating.
This was an inspired handle choice by the way. Don't be so obvious next time.
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This thread is doogalicious.
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Welcome then creepy...and LEAVE!creepycoug said:
Harv? I'm not in that guy's league. You got the real creep here. No more; no less.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Hi Harv.creepycoug said:Auburndawg said:Recruiting is a zero sum game. If UW, USC and UCLA are all strong Oregon will stop getting kids like DAT and Mariotta.
Not necessarily. Each can only have 85. If this theory held true, then UW should not have landed Shaq ... but it did, even after 7-6.
Don't tell me - he's a brilliant aspiring computer science student and came here to study.
Oregon got DAT when USC still looked like a viable place to play. It must've been the cheating.
This was an inspired handle choice by the way. Don't be so obvious next time.
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USC's failure's are killing the pac12 and its image nationwide. Perfect for everybody east of Rockies. It's made the pac12 irrelevant.
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Disagree. In the mid 2000's the Pac 10 was referred to as USC and the rest. USC did just fine, and so will any other undefeated PAC 12 team.kurtisrambis said:USC's failure's are killing the pac12 and its image nationwide. Perfect for everybody east of Rockies. It's made the pac12 irrelevant.
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slitpkurtisrambis said:USC's failure's are killing the pac12 and its image nationwide. Perfect for everybody east of Rockies. It's made the pac12 irrelevant.
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Pretty sure Oregon's reputation is just fine. Whether we want to acknowledge reality or not, most people around the horn think Oregon is pretty tough.kurtisrambis said:USC's failure's are killing the pac12 and its image nationwide. Perfect for everybody east of Rockies. It's made the pac12 irrelevant.
The Cane crowd can be just as provincial and reactionary as the Husky crowd, and even most of those morons acknowledge where Oregon is right now.
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Gentlemen, this is not that complicated. All I am saying is, if UW, UCLA and UW are all healthy, far fewer quality players will find their way to Eugene.
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You always show up just in timeAuburndawg said:Gentlemen, this is not that complicated. All I am saying is, if UW, UCLA and UW are all healthy, far fewer quality players will find their way to Eugene.
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Here's what you don't seem to get. If Oregon, UCLA and USC are all healthy fewer quality players will find their way to Seattle.
If Cal, USC and Oregon are all healthy fewer quality players will find their way to UCLA.
If Miami, Florida State and Georgia are all healthy fewer quality players will find their way to Gainesville.
Welcome to college football.
OTOH, Oregon's national brand (#hicreepycoog!) is strong enough that they'll still get plenty of quality players even if UW, UCLA and USC are all battling it out for the NC.
