What ISIS Really Wants

DerekJohnson said:

ThomasFremont said:

DerekJohnson said:

ThomasFremont said:

After reading this, I am convinced that al-Qaeda is still a bigger threat to America.

But if these ISIS dicks wanna dig in and put up a flag, I say we bomb them back to the stone age that they so desperately crave.

according to Dick Morris ISIS is making $5 million a day in oil revenue from their oil fields in Northern Iraq that they took over last year. Add that up over another 1-2 years and that's quite an asset.

How the fuck are they delivering that oil to market? And who is buying from them?

Cutting that resource off seems like it should be priority number one for starving those fucks out.

It is Morris's contention that if we stop being PC and go bomb those oil fields right now, we would end ISIS's funding and basically destroy their power base.

If they're really making $5 million a day off it, absofuckinglutely.

That seems really really unlikely to me though. Sounds like the kind of claim someone makes when they've already concluded they want us to bomb the fuck out of them and are trying to look for a way to convince everybody else we should be on bored.

I'd love to see some documentation. If that's legit, they're making nearly $2 billion per year. That's terrifying.

DerekJohnson said:

dnc said:

DerekJohnson said:

ThomasFremont said:

DerekJohnson said:

ThomasFremont said:

After reading this, I am convinced that al-Qaeda is still a bigger threat to America.

But if these ISIS dicks wanna dig in and put up a flag, I say we bomb them back to the stone age that they so desperately crave.

according to Dick Morris ISIS is making $5 million a day in oil revenue from their oil fields in Northern Iraq that they took over last year. Add that up over another 1-2 years and that's quite an asset.

How the fuck are they delivering that oil to market? And who is buying from them?

Cutting that resource off seems like it should be priority number one for starving those fucks out.

It is Morris's contention that if we stop being PC and go bomb those oil fields right now, we would end ISIS's funding and basically destroy their power base.

If they're really making $5 million a day off it, absofuckinglutely.

That seems really really unlikely to me though. Sounds like the kind of claim someone makes when they've already concluded they want us to bomb the fuck out of them and are trying to look for a way to convince everybody else we should be on bored.

I'd love to see some documentation. If that's legit, they're making nearly $2 billion per year. That's terrifying.

I watched it again, and Morris said $5 million a day, then immediately corrected himself and said $500,000 a day. My bad.

He did not offer what source he got that number from,

That's still scary, but much less so. Much more believable too.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

CokeGreaterThanPepsi said:

Read this TL;DR (actually did read) artcile yesterday (link at bottom); it is the best piece I have read on ISIS and really explained a lot and also talks about how the US has fucked up in the past year or so in figuring out what ISIS is all about.

TL;DR cliffnote version of article:

-ISIS IS Islamic. Basically they want to go back to medieval Islamic times and are living as such.
-Their leader has only really talked one time in public, when he declared himself the Caliphate last summer. Basically, every Muslim is supposed to follow him and he is the commander of all Muslims (Or should be according to Islamic law). THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of Muslims have left their lives behind to go live under his rule and territory.
-ISIS NEEDS territory, if they don't have territory it will crumble because the Caliphate will become illegitimate.
-ISIS and their followers, in accordance with Islamic laws and such can not be involved in political processes as their is only one true God. So don't bother trying to get them to negotiate.
-Basically peace is impossible for them because if they aren't trying to expand their territory the Caliphate is illegitimate in their eyes.
-Genocide is required. Basically they want everyone that isn't them to be murdered or to be enslaved. Christians would become slaves as long as they pay a tax to them; if they deny the tax they will be beheaded or crucified.
-They are surrounded by Muslims, but ISIS considers most of those Muslims to be living in sin and wants them dead.
-The big one is that they truly believe they are the ones who will play a part in the upcoming Apocalypse. They are bringing those events into motion with everything they do.
-When they beheaded the American Aid worker last year they did so at the grounds (Dabiq an area in Syria) they believe will be the important war between them and "Rome". The reason they always mention Rome is because that is who the Koran says will be the enemy (although Rome can now just be the West).
-ISIS hates Al-Qaeda because they haven't pledged to the Caliphate.
-Beheading, slavery, crucifixion, amputation (for stealing and what not) are all very acceptable to these people; and in fact they are required.

You should read the article, some pretty crazy shit in there. I hope our leaders read it, because clearly they don't understand what ISIS is all about.

theatlantic.com/features/archive/2015/02/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

But how is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi a bad Caliph?

under chinned poast