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Kim Grinolds: there he goes again

DerekJohnson
DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,390 Founders Club
edited February 2013 in Hardcore Husky Board
He's telling his readers today that Dawgman, and not the so-called NegaDawgs, was ahead of the curve to warn people about Willingham. Maybe he would like to explain how in a January 2008 column Dick Baird wrote: "Tyrone Willingham is one of the most respected men in the coaching profession." And how Scott Eklund told readers on the message boards in December 2008 after Willingham got fired, "You guys have no idea the damage Willingham did to the program." (What stopped you from reporting it?)
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  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    It was impossible for them to be ahead of us on this one.

    RIP WeWereAFootballSchool.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,390 Founders Club
    exactly. December 2004.
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited February 2013
    Tyster the Dud was a for more obvious bad hire than Sark. (Steve didn't have a resume so by default he was a better hire.)

    Resume: Lost in the Rose Bowl, in a year when U$C, Wa and UCLA were down. Going to the dance was no big deal. Getting fired at ND after year three. What else? That's about it.

    I got tons of crap in the summer of 2008 on Dawgboy when I predicted a three win team in a post called, Huskies, DOA. Yeah. The boys on the staff are always ahead of the curve.

  • section8
    section8 Member Posts: 1,581
    That whole site is nothing more than a pay per use mouthpiece for the athletic department. They talk a good game about "being beaten up out here" for voicing concerns about Tyrone yet no one remembers it that way but Kim and Fetters.

    Can't wait until Sark's gone and suddenly Kim will have been "voicing strong concerns" about Sark way back in 2012. Rinse, wash, repeat
  • HarveyRoad
    HarveyRoad Member Posts: 121
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I got into with fatters when he wouldn't admit Gilby sucked and needed to go. This was about 2 weeks before he was canned/resigned.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    206-227-8810


    What is the phone equivalent of "Wanna cyber?" anyway?

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,390 Founders Club

    I got into with fatters when he wouldn't admit Gilby sucked and needed to go. This was about 2 weeks before he was canned/resigned.

    There are two things of which I am "guilty"... I predicted that Woodward wouldn't get the stadium built, and I publicly supported Gilby back in '03 and thought he could succeed as head coach.

    But for Dawgman to claim that they were ahead of Race, Sven, myself and any other assortment of HHB or Negas about Tyrone is so beyond the pale that it ventures into egomaniacal insanity.

    And yes, SQC, it sticks in my craw.

  • Maybe if Kim and the rest of the Citrus Fiesta crew took some time to unlock their lips from Woodward's 2 inches of thunder and unbuckle their knee pads, they might be able to readily admit the most they ever did was post cryptic bullshit and write a column calling for Ty's removal AFTER he was already fired.



    THIS. Plus a thousand.
  • I got into with fatters when he wouldn't admit Gilby sucked and needed to go. This was about 2 weeks before he was canned/resigned.

    There are two things of which I am "guilty"... I predicted that Woodward wouldn't get the stadium built, and I publicly supported Gilby back in '03 and thought he could succeed as head coach.

    But for Dawgman to claim that they were ahead of Race, Sven, myself and any other assortment of HHB or Negas about Tyrone is so beyond the pale that it ventures into egomaniacal insanity.

    And yes, SQC, it sticks in my craw.



    Was it the drunken misspelling of your name that gave me away?
  • Truth time for me. I "supported" Tyrone until 07 UCLA. I was never more than lukewarm over the hire but publicly I wanted him to do well. Call it white guilt, call it uberdoogishness.... whatever. Honestly, I desperately want Sark to win....I fucking hate losing. I am the biggest poor sport you know....I throw shit at opposing fans, mouth off like a prick, challenge them to fights....I lose my cool. I'm sick of it. I want to party in Pasadena a bunch before I die.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,390 Founders Club

    Truth time for me. I "supported" Tyrone until 07 UCLA. I was never more than lukewarm over the hire but publicly I wanted him to do well. Call it white guilt, call it uberdoogishness.... whatever. Honestly, I desperately want Sark to win....I fucking hate losing. I am the biggest poor sport you know....I throw shit at opposing fans, mouth off like a prick, challenge them to fights....I lose my cool. I'm sick of it. I want to party in Pasadena a bunch before I die.

    So you're saying that it sticks in your craw?
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,288 Founders Club

    I got into with fatters when he wouldn't admit Gilby sucked and needed to go. This was about 2 weeks before he was canned/resigned.

    There are two things of which I am "guilty"... I predicted that Woodward wouldn't get the stadium built, and I publicly supported Gilby back in '03 and thought he could succeed as head coach.

    But for Dawgman to claim that they were ahead of Race, Sven, myself and any other assortment of HHB or Negas about Tyrone is so beyond the pale that it ventures into egomaniacal insanity.

    And yes, SQC, it sticks in my craw.


    Was it the drunken misspelling of your name that gave me away?
    No, it was registering the handle with your company email that did the trick.

    Too many paint fumes.
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    I got into with fatters when he wouldn't admit Gilby sucked and needed to go. This was about 2 weeks before he was canned/resigned.

    There are two things of which I am "guilty"... I predicted that Woodward wouldn't get the stadium built, and I publicly supported Gilby back in '03 and thought he could succeed as head coach.

    But for Dawgman to claim that they were ahead of Race, Sven, myself and any other assortment of HHB or Negas about Tyrone is so beyond the pale that it ventures into egomaniacal insanity.

    And yes, SQC, it sticks in my craw.


    Was it the drunken misspelling of your name that gave me away?
    No, it was registering the handle with your company email that did the trick.

    Too many paint chips.
    Fixed.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680


    Was it the drunken misspelling of your name that gave me away?

    Tierbs hsot boobs.

  • WhiskeyDawg
    WhiskeyDawg Member Posts: 406
    Wait a fucking second. I've given "The Dawgman Guys" a pretty wide berth, but that statement is flat out wrong and nobody with a brain or half brian would believe that. The biggest joke was having Samak post his Op/Ed the day AFTER Willingham got canned and Samak went out on a limb to say "Willingham needs to go [sic]."

    They need to stick to what they do best and slap stars on high school kids, but don't try to rewrite history to their favor.
  • WhiskeyDawg
    WhiskeyDawg Member Posts: 406
    edited February 2013
    Say what you want about Sven being a dumb ass, but I was in a casino with him the day that Willingham was hired, and paraphrasing him regarding the hire: " We are fucked." That was almost four years before Dawgman.com admitted publicly on their boards that Willingham was a disaster.

    I admit I am guilty of giving him the first year pass, much like I gave Corky. I'm too nice of a guy I guess.
  • Dick_B
    Dick_B Member Posts: 1,301
    I was posting on the premium bored that we were fucked the day they hired him. I almost got ran off the place. There were some good posters that shared the same sentiments that are not around anymore. And the mods were silent.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,390 Founders Club
    The additional funny thing about the Samek editorial.... I called Kim immediately and asked him why they were running another editorial after they wouldn't let me run my multiple anti-Ty editorials going back to the previous year. Kim said Samek was being a "fucking idiot" and had posted it without his permission.
  • CheersWestDawg
    CheersWestDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,478 Swaye's Wigwam

    The additional funny thing about the Samek editorial.... I called Kim immediately and asked him why they were running another editorial after they wouldn't let me run my multiple anti-Ty editorials going back to the previous year. Kim said Samek was being a "fucking idiot" and had posted it without his permission.

    Total fucking cop out. And a lie. Even if it was true, where the fuck is the editor in chief?

    Oh yeah, never mind...he's too busy chowing down on a plate of 12 lb nachos while jerking off to a 17 year old boy's football highlight tape.
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    This sums it up about as well as I've ever heard it.
    section8 said:

    That whole site is nothing more than a pay per use mouthpiece for the athletic department.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Say what you want about Sven being a dumb ass, but I was in a casino with him the day that Willingham was hired, and paraphrasing him regarding the hire: " We are fucked." That was almost four years before Dawgman.com admitted publicly on their boards that Willingham was a disaster.

    I admit I am guilty of giving him the first year pass, much like I gave Corky. I'm too nice of a guy I guess.

    The Lucky Eagle?

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I had home for Willingham year 1. I was looked at he Stanford record and bought into the myth that it's hard to win at Stanford and Ty did about as well there as some of their best coaches. I mocked Sark from the first kick ass presser.
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited February 2013
    I'm too nice as well.

    I gave Steve the Soft a pass until that pathetic Alamo Bowl game. I kinda had it figured out when we got mopped up by a three win Or St team the same year, 2011.

    In the second year it was pretty obvious: lack of discipline, lousy organization, sloppy execution, poor play calling, disinterest during games - a cream puff soft culture. Music during meetings, guys goofing off on the sidelines. What a crock of shit.
  • WhiskeyDawg
    WhiskeyDawg Member Posts: 406



    The Lucky Eagle?

    Elko Nevada Red Lion.
  • WhiskeyDawg
    WhiskeyDawg Member Posts: 406

    I'm too nice as well.

    I gave Steve the Soft a pass until that pathetic Alamo Bowl game. I kinda had it figured out when we got mopped up by a three win Or St team the same year, 2011.

    In the second year it was pretty obvious: lack of discipline, lousy organization, sloppy execution, poor play calling, disinterest during games - a cream puff soft culture. Music during meetings, guys goofing off on the sidelines. What a crook of shit.

    Pete Carroll had the bullets to do that at USC. That shit doesn't work so well here.

  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,390 Founders Club

    I'm too nice as well.

    I gave Steve the Soft a pass until that pathetic Alamo Bowl game. I kinda had it figured out when we got mopped up by a three win Or St team the same year, 2011.

    In the second year it was pretty obvious: lack of discipline, lousy organization, sloppy execution, poor play calling, disinterest during games - a cream puff soft culture. Music during meetings, guys goofing off on the sidelines. What a crock of shit.

    In early November 2010 you told me I was embarrassing myself by criticizing Sark and calling for Polk to get the ball 25-30 times a game. I'm glad you finally saw the light.
  • Steve_Bowman
    Steve_Bowman Member Posts: 442
    edited February 2013
    Well Derek, 2010 was really, really early to throw in the towel. I thought so then I still do. (Best I can remember, you were calling for Sark's head in 2010? The Polk thing was one of the reasons.)

    There were plenty of warning signs in 2010 as mentioned above. However, the guy could have improved, he could have learned to be a head coach, he could have dumped the duds on his staff much sooner, he could have hired an offensive coordinator, there were many ways he could have matured by 2012. He didn't.

    My call all along was 2012 being the watershed year. He flunked.