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Anyone Watch Klay Score 37 Points in The 3rd Quarter?

9-9 from 3 in the 3rd. The Warriors made the best move of the offseason not trading him for Kevin Love. Love would have taken Draymond Green's minutes too.

I can't see anyone beating the Warriors if they are relatively healthy, even in the loaded West. Too many weapons, too deep. Steve Kerr has made a huge difference. With Mark Jackson, their offense was often stagnant despite having great options. OKC has been very stubborn and stupid keeping Scott Brooks around for so long. Coaching matters, even in the NBA.

In the East, Cleveland is coming along, but I think the Hawks and Bulls are better. I don't think the Hawks are going to only be a good regular season team. They are legit. The Hawks frontcourt would destroy Cleveland's and their role players all fit well. They don't have a superstar, but they have three borderline All Stars, Kyle Korver, and a couple other good role players. They also have a very good coach.
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  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Klay is my favorite Cuog of all time.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    Romar dodged a bullet by refusing to offer Klay a scholarship.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Would be interesting for Atlanta to win a title without a true superstar (all nba 1st or 2nd), first since the Pistons? However I have to disagree with @RoadDawg55‌ that their guys aren't all-stars.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    Atlanta is the Karl Sonics. They'll crash in the playoffs
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    But who would play the MJ role? Durant's struggling to lock up the eighth seed, Duncan's probably done. Klay and Steph?
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,731 Founders Club

    Klay is my favorite Cuog of all time.

    Why do you hate Popcorn Guy?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    Atlanta is the Karl Sonics. They'll crash in the playoffs

    I don't think so. If they do it will be the Bulls who beat them. The Hawks will score 120 against the Cavs. Their starting line up all averages over 11 per game. Their bigs can pass and knock down jumpers. They have a very good bench too. It's a well put together roster. They make you guard everyone and run the same system as the Spurs.

    @ThomasFremont, Horford is an definitely an all star. Teague should be one. He's really underrated, but doesn't have the hype that Irving, Lowry, or Wall do. Millsap is a really good player that is borderline.
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325

    Atlanta is the Karl Sonics. They'll crash in the playoffs

    I don't think so. If they do it will be the Bulls who beat them. The Hawks will score 120 against the Cavs. Their starting line up all averages over 11 per game. Their bigs can pass and knock down jumpers. They have a very good bench too. It's a well put together roster. They make you guard everyone and run the same system as the Spurs.

    @ThomasFremont, Horford is an definitely an all star. Teague should be one. He's really underrated, but doesn't have the hype that Irving, Lowry, or Wall do. Millsap is a really good player that is borderline.
    huh?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I el oh el at those that say wait until the Warriors have a shooting slump in the playoffs - how many open shots do they get? They are beatable if Bogut isn't healthy - but very little chance of he is.

    East most likely will be Hawks or Bulls - the Wiz are the wild card team
  • ThomasFremont
    ThomasFremont Member Posts: 13,325
    Tequilla said:

    I el oh el at those that say wait until the Warriors have a shooting slump in the playoffs - how many open shots do they get? They are beatable if Bogut isn't healthy - but very little chance of he is.

    East most likely will be Hawks or Bulls - the Wiz are the wild card team

    If you see the tape of Klay going god mode in the 3rd qtr, most of those shots were a high level of difficulty. He wasn't just hitting wide open gimme shots. And Curry is an even better shooter. I don't see them both having a shooting slump for long enough to impact a 7 game series.
  • HuskiesADW
    HuskiesADW Member Posts: 141
    I think either the Spurs or Mavericks are going to come out of the west as I don't see anyone beating them. Who cares about the regular season. Just get in and rest your old superstars so they can give you 30-35 minutes in the playoffs.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    Superstars win the championships in the NBA because the playoffs are different. Karl always built teams that could win night in and night out but had no one to lead in the playoffs. You need a lead dog. Champions win championships as well. The pool of teams that have won it all is very shallow.

    There are Hawks every year. Golden State lost to the Clippers last year. Golden State is better and could win the west if SA is too old. Atlanta will not win the east.

    My Cavs are rounding into shape and listening to the best player in the league. I still out my money on them in the east.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    Superstars win the championships in the NBA because the playoffs are different. Karl always built teams that could win night in and night out but had no one to lead in the playoffs. You need a lead dog. Champions win championships as well. The pool of teams that have won it all is very shallow.

    There are Hawks every year. Golden State lost to the Clippers last year. Golden State is better and could win the west if SA is too old. Atlanta will not win the east.

    My Cavs are rounding into shape and listening to the best player in the league. I still out my money on them in the east.

    Of course you think LeBron's team is going to win. The Cavs have guys who have never won shit. Get ready for Kevin Love getting bashed and a one way ticket out of Cleveland.

    The Superstar mantra is true, but maybe it is changing. San Antonio didn't have a super star last year. Duncan was one. He's still very good, but he's no superstar. Parker and Leonard are All Stars, but not really superstars that would make current top 10 lists. The Spurs were the deepest team and had tons of weapons.

    The Hawks are deep. The Cavs won't be able to guard them. Take a screenshot if you need to.

    Golden State lost to the Clippers last year because Bogut was out. They are a different team this year.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    SA had a trio of stars with 4 rings proving my point. Kyle Korver will disappear as usual in the playoffs. I pick the Cavs because they have the best player in a bad conference. And he's been to 5 Finals.

    Only 6 months to go before we find out
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    SA had a trio of stars with 4 rings proving my point. Kyle Korver will disappear as usual in the playoffs. I pick the Cavs because they have the best player in a bad conference. And he's been to 5 Finals.

    Only 6 months to go before we find out

    The rest of the Cavs roster sucks. They wouldn't be .500 without LeBron. All Kyle Korver has to do is shoot. The Hawks aren't dependent on him. He's a role player. Are Horford and Millsap no longer going to be the best frontcourt in the East?

    If the Cavs somehow do make it through the East, do you think they could beat Golden State or San Antonio in the finals?
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    The Cavs will beat the Bulls or Hawks. You can take that to the bank Senator. Love and Irving are listening to the man now. Too soon to say on the finals
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    Comprehensive list of shit that Horford, Milsap, Rose, Korver, or any Bull or Hawk has won
































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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    edited January 2015

    Comprehensive list of shit that Horford, Milsap, Rose, Korver, or any Bull or Hawk has won
































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    Comprehensive list of shit that Wilson, Sherman, Thomas, Lynch, Bennett or any Seahawk of any significance had ever won as of January 31, 2014.































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    Shit changes.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    Race you complain about LeBron's team last year. Do you actually think this Cavs team is better? Bosh > Love. Wade > Irving. Neither Love or Irving play any defense. Add JR Smith to that list too. All three are gunners who take a ton of bad shots. When they are hot it looks great. When the shots don't fall, the Cavs will get plungered.

    LeBron has a worse team than last year and the rest of the East has gotten better. Indiana fell off, but the Hawks are better. The Bulls are better. The Wizards are better. TSIO. With some new role players, another year of familiarity, and better defenders, the Cavs might have a chance next year.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Horford won back to back in college.

    One thing that absolutely cracks me up is hearing people talk about superstars winning in the NBA. That's normally because the Superstars are often on the best team. When the league is down, the surrounding teams aren't that good and as such the superstar has more of an influence.

    The thing about the NBA right now is that the depth of quality players is at its highest mark since the 1980s. The biggest difference between now and the 80s is that the league's best players (LBJ, KD) aren't on the best teams.

    Take a team like Atlanta for example:

    Forget what the numbers say, Horford is an easy All-Star and probably ranks right up there with the Gasols, Noah, and Duncan as the best pure bigs in the game at the 5 position (I don't include guys like Cousins who is more of a PF to me, Davis, or Dirk as comparables).

    Millsap is a solid player that is at worst a fringe all-star player throughout his career. He's been a 17 and 8 guy for 5 straight years now ... solid player.

    Jeff Teague is another guy that continues to grow a little bit each year and ranks right on the edge of being at worst a fringe all-star player. 17 and 7 for the last 3 years.

    Kyle Korver is the premier shooter in the NBA when it comes to stretching the defense.

    Their bench is full of unspectacular, but useful, role players that come into the game and contribute with solid minutes.

    This is a strong team that is benefiting some by playing in the East. But at the same time, they know their identity. They know what works for them and what doesn't. And everybody on the team has some role that they play and they have all bought in. Very dangerous team as long as Horford is healthy. If he isn't, they torpedo quickly.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    I'm right

    Half the NBA titles in history have been won by two teams. The rest are by multiple winner other than the Thunder and the Wizards who have one a piece. That's why superstars win titles, because they do. This isn't the NFL.

    Watch and learn kids.

    George Karl has how many rings? Same as the Hawks and Bulls players.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    I'm right

    Half the NBA titles in history have been won by two teams. The rest are by multiple winner other than the Thunder and the Wizards who have one a piece. That's why superstars win titles, because they do. This isn't the NFL.

    Watch and learn kids.

    George Karl has how many rings? Same as the Hawks and Bulls players.

    Why do you hate Pau Gasol?
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    I want the Hawks to win just so @RaceBannon‌ will be proven wrong.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    And the whole concept of great players is just as easy discredited.

    There were few players in the history of the game that had a bigger star associated with them than Dr. J. He won exactly one NBA title in the NBA ... and that was driven more from the zenith of Moses Malone than Dr. J.

    The whole half the titles have been won by 2 teams is driven by the players that played for those organizations. The Lakers titles were driven by George Mikan (who required the rules of the games to be changed because of how dominant he was during the time he played), Magic, and Shaq/Kobe. Forgetting about Mikan for a second, the other 3 are 3 of the top 12 players to ever play the game. Mikan gets discredited today but when he played the gap between the best and next best player was night and day. The Celtics had great players but more of a team concept centered around the greatest winner in the history of the game in Bill Russell. They won a couple of titles in the 70s based off of solid team play with an aging Hondo, JoJo White, and Dave Cowens (who will never be confused with one of the 20 greatest players of all time). Then they won 3 in the 80s behind a Top 5 All-Time player in Bird (and a very balanced roster) and then 1 in 2008 with another balanced team effort led by some great players (KG, Allen, Pierce, and Rondo) but again, not one player that would be considered an all-time great.

    The Lakers have won titles driven by star players and then surrounding them with supporting players. Celtics have won titles with solid teams and their big runs have come when they've had generational talent surrounded by those solid teams.

    You can run off a massive list of great players in the history of the game that have not won titles.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    We're not talking about the great players who didn't win titles, we are talking about the ones that did.

    I'm right. And brief

    That's a lot of words to show that the Lakers and Celtics have won half the titles. LA has played for half the titles.

    I said superstars win titles and repeat teams win titles. Nothing you wrote argues against that
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    I'm right a 60 year old LeBron fan boy.

    Half the NBA titles in history have been won by two teams. The rest are by multiple winner other than the Thunder and the Wizards who have one a piece. That's why superstars win titles, because they do. This isn't the NFL.

    Watch and learn kids.

    George Karl has how many rings? Same as the Hawks and Bulls players
    .

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    I'm not 60 and that does not disprove my point either.

    I guess that's the best you got so there's that

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    edited January 2015

    I'm not 60 and that does not disprove my point either.

    I guess that's the best you got so there's that

    I know that superstars typically win titles. We all know the history of the league.

    It's lazy analysis to say nobody on the Bulls or Hawks have won. They at least have core players who have won playoff series. Love and Irving have never played in a playoff game. They aren't winning 4 series. They are going to choke. I'm sure Mike Miller and James Jones' experience will pay off huge come playoff time.

    Like I said. 2014 Heat >>>>> 2015 Cavs. You were wrong last year and you will be wrong again.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,166 Founders Club
    The Heat won the east last year. It's all over the Internet.

    You can call it lazy but it's a better analysis than thinking Millsap and Horford will win anything

    Superstars make the other players better. That's why they go to the finals. Lebron is proven

    I'm right


    You're not