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Unions Part Deux

topdawgnc
topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

Unions are declining in every other sector.

Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

We certainly don't need public sector unions ....
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Some jobs they are very useful. They protect the worker and help keep more money in he middle class and blue collar workers. Government unions are another matter,, some are useful, some not so much.

    Here's the thing, if businesses like Walmart paid theirs employees better, stores would not yet to unionize (see Costco, but then again, I don't see why a store would need a union either).

    In a scenario like Boeing, unions are great,, otherwise the workers would have little benefits.

    Unions have their purpose and they are slowly dying off because the change in manufacturing in our country. But those that say all unions are terrible are just being dumb.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,099
    edited January 2015
    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Of course uniors are expanding in the public sector govt jobs. Nobody else still has high pay, cadillac insurance benefits, pensions and job security. Good jobs have two of those; REALLY good jobs have 3 of them. Government jobs have all four. You're damn right they are going to fight like hell to keep the status quo.


  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    2001400ex said:

    Some jobs they are very useful. They protect the worker and help keep more money in he middle class and blue collar workers. Government unions are another matter,, some are useful, some not so much.

    Here's the thing, if businesses like Walmart paid theirs employees better, stores would not yet to unionize (see Costco, but then again, I don't see why a store would need a union either).

    In a scenario like Boeing, unions are great,, otherwise the workers would have little benefits.

    Unions have their purpose and they are slowly dying off because the change in manufacturing in our country. But those that say all unions are terrible are just being dumb.

    http://youtu.be/YpuRcmPnSTM
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    topdawgnc said:

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
    Facts suck. Henry Ford receiving the grand cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials:

    image

    The bastard even looks like a fucking evil vampire. Look at his face:

    image

    Henry Ford, Nazi supporter, exploiter of slave labor. Case closed. End of discussion.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2015

    Exploiter of slave labor?

    Ironic coming from a duck fan

    Are the Chinese being kept in internment camps and forced to make duck shirts before they expire from exhaustion or are put onto trains heading to Treblinka?
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    topdawgnc said:

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
    Facts suck. Henry Ford receiving the grand cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials:

    image

    The bastard even looks like a fucking evil vampire. Look at his face:

    image

    Henry Ford, Nazi supporter, exploiter of slave labor. Case closed. End of discussion.
    Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
    Facts suck. Henry Ford receiving the grand cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials:

    image

    The bastard even looks like a fucking evil vampire. Look at his face:

    image

    Henry Ford, Nazi supporter, exploiter of slave labor. Case closed. End of discussion.
    Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.
    A very convenient period for them to "lose control" in hindsight.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club



    Exploiter of slave labor?

    Ironic coming from a duck fan

    Are the Chinese being kept in internment camps and forced to make duck shirts before they expire from exhaustion or are put onto trains heading to Treblinka?
    Yes
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,297
    edited January 2015
    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Here's my union story.....I am forced to be in the union for my job so FYFMFE. I have no choice

    I have never asked for one thing....I don't go to meetings...I dontt care about bargaining....our benefits are awesome so why rock the boat.

    I put in paperwork in April for my job to be reclassified At the next round of negotiations (What I get paid is a joke...I look around and think WTF.) Anyways....I submitted the paperwork and was told "everything looks great."

    Fast forward to last week and I haven't heard anything....they won't say they lost the paperwork but won't give me an answer about why they won't fight for me. They have never forgotten to take a half days pay every month For dues though. I was livid and am still not sorry about the emails I sent.

    I get your employer doesn't value you as an employee and offers you shit benefits....that sucks. Well my union doesn't value me either and I pay them.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    HuskyJW said:

    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Here's my union story.....I am forced to be in the union for my job so FYFMFE. I have no choice

    I have never asked for one thing....I don't go to meetings...I dontt care about bargaining....our benefits are awesome so why rock the boat.

    I put in paperwork in April for my job to be reclassified At the next round of negotiations (What I get paid is a joke...I look around and think WTF.) Anyways....I submitted the paperwork and was told "everything looks great."

    Fast forward to last week and I haven't heard anything....they won't say they lost the paperwork but won't give me an answer about why they won't fight for me. They have never forgotten to take a half days pay every month For dues though. I was livid and am still not sorry about the emails I sent.

    I get your employer doesn't value you as an employee and offers you shit benefits....that sucks. Well my union doesn't value me either and I pay them.
    Which is it? Good benefits our bad?

    By the way, it's still your choice to work for a union or not. This is a free country.

    It's funny the same people the day unions are terrible, we need free market, yet say they absolutely have to work for a union.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208
    bummer. Not only do you lack intelligence, you can't read, either.
  • HuskyJW
    HuskyJW Member Posts: 15,297
    2001400ex said:

    HuskyJW said:

    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Here's my union story.....I am forced to be in the union for my job so FYFMFE. I have no choice

    I have never asked for one thing....I don't go to meetings...I dontt care about bargaining....our benefits are awesome so why rock the boat.

    I put in paperwork in April for my job to be reclassified At the next round of negotiations (What I get paid is a joke...I look around and think WTF.) Anyways....I submitted the paperwork and was told "everything looks great."

    Fast forward to last week and I haven't heard anything....they won't say they lost the paperwork but won't give me an answer about why they won't fight for me. They have never forgotten to take a half days pay every month For dues though. I was livid and am still not sorry about the emails I sent.

    I get your employer doesn't value you as an employee and offers you shit benefits....that sucks. Well my union doesn't value me either and I pay them.
    Which is it? Good benefits our bad?

    By the way, it's still your choice to work for a union or not. This is a free country.

    It's funny the same people the day unions are terrible, we need free market, yet say they absolutely have to work for a union.
    Voted down for not understanding the post.....in the slightest.
  • HuskyInAZ
    HuskyInAZ Member Posts: 1,732
    As irritating as Honda is, it is entertaining to watch him make a complete fool of himself. Every single one of his responses, he continues to dig a deeper hole. Great stuff.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Lol the funny part is you guys can't read through a little auto correct.

    HTH
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,030 Founders Club
    It wasn't the typo
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    HuskyInAZ said:

    As irritating as Honda is, it is entertaining to watch him make a complete fool of himself. Every single one of his responses, he continues to dig a deeper hole. Great stuff.

    Funny those words coming from you AZ!
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    It wasn't the typo

    There was multiple typos. Fuck you are stupid.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Some good points made toppy, but saying we dont need unions anymore in concerning.

    im a fan of firing every government worker possible, and too feel public sector unionization is pathetic.

    However, as EX tried but so uneloquently put, private sector unionization is as necessary today as ever. Unions are declining at a rapid pace, and as more states are becoming right-to-work, the prospects become more bleak. However, without unions the very same reasons for unionizing in the 1st place will rear their ugly heads again.

    Forget automation. Many blue collar union jobs can never be automated. Unions protect top wages and top benefits, even EX knows that. However the little things involved with the workers' circumstances ie.. , the specifics surrounding conditions, safety,
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Some good points made toppy, but saying we dont need unions anymore in concerning.

    im a fan of firing every government worker possible, and too feel public sector unionization is pathetic.

    However, as EX tried but so uneloquently put, private sector unionization is as necessary today as ever. Unions are declining at a rapid pace, and as more states are becoming right-to-work, the prospects become more bleak. However, without unions the very same reasons for unionizing in the 1st place will rear their ugly heads again.

    Forget automation. Many blue collar union jobs can never be automated. Unions protect top wages and top benefits, even EX knows that. However the little things involved with the workers' circumstances ie.. , the specifics surrounding conditions, safety,
    What part of the unions are needed?

    Somebody mentioned 14 year old kids working noon to night. Would you let your kid work like that? I wouldn't. And there are laws to prevent it, and along with those laws come social norms.

    Where are unions needed? China. Where companies like Nike are exploiting to the degree you and others are worried about.

    As The Race Bannon points out ... funny that Duck supporters are so pro union.

    End of day, unions are no different than corporations. Their product is labor. They have a CEO, a CFO, VP's etc ... difference is ... as Husky stated ... people can't choose not to pay. It's like Target getting a guaranteed cut of everyone's pay check who lives in a 5 mile radius of their store. As a trade off you get a discount on food, but you still have to pay for it.

    You know why retail workers never unionized ... no money. If WalMart employees unionized WalMart would go out of business. Instead unions manipulate McDonalds and WalMart workers to believe they can unionize and the minimum wage gets driven up, which allows for stronger negotiation to the companies who can afford it ... Boeing, government, and Ford.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320

    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Some good points made toppy, but saying we dont need unions anymore in concerning.

    im a fan of firing every government worker possible, and too feel public sector unionization is pathetic.

    However, as EX tried but so uneloquently put, private sector unionization is as necessary today as ever. Unions are declining at a rapid pace, and as more states are becoming right-to-work, the prospects become more bleak. However, without unions the very same reasons for unionizing in the 1st place will rear their ugly heads again.

    Forget automation. Many blue collar union jobs can never be automated. Unions protect top wages and top benefits, even EX knows that. However the little things involved with the workers' circumstances ie.. , the specifics surrounding conditions, safety,
    Amazing, but the blind squirrel sometimes finds the nut.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Some good points made toppy, but saying we dont need unions anymore in concerning.

    im a fan of firing every government worker possible, and too feel public sector unionization is pathetic.

    However, as EX tried but so uneloquently put, private sector unionization is as necessary today as ever. Unions are declining at a rapid pace, and as more states are becoming right-to-work, the prospects become more bleak. However, without unions the very same reasons for unionizing in the 1st place will rear their ugly heads again.

    Forget automation. Many blue collar union jobs can never be automated. Unions protect top wages and top benefits, even EX knows that. However the little things involved with the workers' circumstances ie.. , the specifics surrounding conditions, safety,
    Amazing, but the blind squirrel sometimes finds the nut.
    Poast of the day.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    edited January 2015
    ...job description, pay for hours worked, a vote, a voice without fear of repercussion etc.... Unions are very different one to another. Blanketing them all Toppy isnt fair.

    The biggest problem is that union members take the cash and go. They dont get involved, they dont vote, voice anything or stick to the contract. That's why they break down. Members have themselves to blame if they hate their respective union.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288

    ...job description, pay for hours worked, a vote, a voice without fear of repercussion etc.... Unions are very different one to another. Blanketing them all Toppy isnt fair.

    Someone's getting their ass kicked.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839

    ...job description, pay for hours worked, a vote, a voice without fear of repercussion etc.... Unions are very different one to another. Blanketing them all Toppy isnt fair.

    The biggest problem is that union members take the cash and go. They dont get involved, they dont vote, voice anything or stick to the contract. That's why they break down. Members have themselves to blame if they hate their respective union.

    Job description, I have one ... all my colleagues have one ... need a union to tell you what your job description is? Pay for hours worked ... I get a pay check, I think everyone on here does. If you are not getting paid for hours worked there are laws ... and companies pay fines when it is not adhered to. Vote ... what do we need to vote on? A voice without fear of repercussion ... unless it is against the union ... right.

    Unions are corporations. They need members to survive. And if they can't get members they change the law to force members to join.

    America is voting everyday ... unions are a relic of the past.

    If people think the sweat shops will come back, then unions will again rise up ... some on here are realist and know laws and current standards prevent that.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    edited January 2015
    If you think unions are a thing of the past in Washington, youre fucked in the head. a voice and a vote are what protects them. If employees dont utilize this most-important right, then unions will die. But it aint happenin anytime soon.

    In right-to-work states why is union representation so high toppy?

    And dont give me the "unions are corps and all they want is your money"..its so trite and water is wet. With that comes economic stability and the "vote and voice". You think a v and v doesnt matter? Check with a certain air plane manufacturer up north. You think that union is on the way out? Or the ports, utilies, the teamsters, railroad?

    let the nursing and teachers union die. Those job-scared cowards DONT utilize their most important rights, so your argument is 1/64th correct.

    And yes dipfuck, non-unionized workers DONT GET THEIR CUNTS PAID for hours worked. Thats a primary reason people unionized,and applies now more than ever. Heres an example toppy..."hey Fred, do you mind coming in a little early tomorrow or stay a little late tonight, say 20 minutes?"

    Unions protect a worker from going outside their job descriptions dummy. Cuts down on injuries and other work-related safety matters, company fines, and disability claims... among many other reasons.

    Against repercussions from Company.

    workers vote everyday? WTF are you flapping about. Workers vote on contracts ie. Wages, retirement, and a laundry list of benefits, etfuckingc...

    did I leave anything out ignoramus?
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    If you think unions are a thing of the past in Washington, youre fucked in the head. a voice and a vote are what protects them. If employees dont utilize this most-important right, then unions will die. But it aint happenin anytime soon.

    In right-to-work states why is union representation so high toppy?

    And dont give me the "unions are corps and all they want is your money"..its so trite and water is wet. With that comes economic stability and the "vote and voice". You think a v and v doesnt matter? Check with a certain air plane manufacturer up north. You think that union is on the way out? Or the ports, utilies, the teamsters, railroad?

    let the nursing and teachers union die. Those job-scared cowards DONT utilize their most important rights, so your argument is 1/64th correct.

    And yes dipfuck, non-unionized workers DONT GET THEIR CUNTS PAID for hours worked. Thats a primary reason people unionized,and applies now more than ever. Heres an example toppy..."hey Fred, do you mind coming in a little early tomorrow or stay a little late tonight, say 20 minutes?"

    Unions protect a worker from going outside their job descriptions dummy. Cuts down on injuries and other work-related safety matters, company fines, and disability claims... among many other reasons.

    Against repercussions from Company.

    workers vote everyday? WTF are you flapping about. Workers vote on contracts ie. Wages, retirement, and a laundry list of benefits, etfuckingc...

    did I leave anything out ignoramus?

    Yes.

    You missed these facts: The rate of union membership has been on a steady decline over the past three decades. It grew slightly from 12.1 percent in 2007 to 12.4 percent in 2008. During President Obama’s first year in office, however, it fell once more.


    and

    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the rate of union membership for public-sector workers last year was 35.7 percent, compared to just 6.6 percent for the private sector.