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Unions Part Deux

topdawgnc
topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,842
WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

Unions are declining in every other sector.

Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

We certainly don't need public sector unions ....
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Some jobs they are very useful. They protect the worker and help keep more money in he middle class and blue collar workers. Government unions are another matter,, some are useful, some not so much.

    Here's the thing, if businesses like Walmart paid theirs employees better, stores would not yet to unionize (see Costco, but then again, I don't see why a store would need a union either).

    In a scenario like Boeing, unions are great,, otherwise the workers would have little benefits.

    Unions have their purpose and they are slowly dying off because the change in manufacturing in our country. But those that say all unions are terrible are just being dumb.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 49,048 Standard Supporter
    edited January 2015
    topdawgnc said:

    WSJ had an editorial today on unions.

    Fastest growing unions are in federal and state government.

    Unions are declining in every other sector.

    Overall unions are down to 11.4% of the population.

    Do we really need the union protecting our federal government employees from being over worked?

    I remember hearing/reading back in high school or college, or maybe I made it up, unions prevented America from transforming to a communist or heavy socialist slant. Gave the workers a voice and allowed a balance that prevented an uprising.

    Unions served a purpose, they provided a voice for the working man. But, no longer needed. Laws have changed, automation has become more advanced ... just not needed.

    We certainly don't need public sector unions ....

    Of course uniors are expanding in the public sector govt jobs. Nobody else still has high pay, cadillac insurance benefits, pensions and job security. Good jobs have two of those; REALLY good jobs have 3 of them. Government jobs have all four. You're damn right they are going to fight like hell to keep the status quo.


  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,500
    2001400ex said:

    Some jobs they are very useful. They protect the worker and help keep more money in he middle class and blue collar workers. Government unions are another matter,, some are useful, some not so much.

    Here's the thing, if businesses like Walmart paid theirs employees better, stores would not yet to unionize (see Costco, but then again, I don't see why a store would need a union either).

    In a scenario like Boeing, unions are great,, otherwise the workers would have little benefits.

    Unions have their purpose and they are slowly dying off because the change in manufacturing in our country. But those that say all unions are terrible are just being dumb.

    http://youtu.be/YpuRcmPnSTM
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,842

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    topdawgnc said:

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
    Facts suck. Henry Ford receiving the grand cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials:

    image

    The bastard even looks like a fucking evil vampire. Look at his face:

    image

    Henry Ford, Nazi supporter, exploiter of slave labor. Case closed. End of discussion.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited January 2015

    Exploiter of slave labor?

    Ironic coming from a duck fan

    Are the Chinese being kept in internment camps and forced to make duck shirts before they expire from exhaustion or are put onto trains heading to Treblinka?
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,842

    topdawgnc said:

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
    Facts suck. Henry Ford receiving the grand cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials:

    image

    The bastard even looks like a fucking evil vampire. Look at his face:

    image

    Henry Ford, Nazi supporter, exploiter of slave labor. Case closed. End of discussion.
    Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    topdawgnc said:

    topdawgnc said:

    Unions help keep shit in line and prevent abuses by employers. Corporations can and will try to wring out every last penny of work from their employees while paying an absolute minimum for the labor. There is no low that most of them wouldn't stoop for in the name of the almighty buck. That fucking faggot Henry Ford used slave labor in Nazi Germany.

    Facts suck.

    Who was in charge of Fordwerke when it used slave labor (it is now generally accepted that this occurred between 1941 and 1945)? By the time that slave labor was introduced, Fordwerke was clearly under the direct control of the Nazi government, though administered through the company headquarters in Cologne (albeit by Robert Schmidt). The meetings of the board of directors had already been suspended, and didn't resume until after the war. Although the American parent company desperately sought to retain control of their German assets, they failed to do so. Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.

    archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.VMV4JC4YFQI

    ADL is ran by Jews.
    Facts suck. Henry Ford receiving the grand cross of the German Eagle from Nazi officials:

    image

    The bastard even looks like a fucking evil vampire. Look at his face:

    image

    Henry Ford, Nazi supporter, exploiter of slave labor. Case closed. End of discussion.
    Fordwerke became an instrument of the Nazi state. I certainly found no evidence that American management ever sanctioned the use of slave labor or that it even knew of the use of slave labor.
    A very convenient period for them to "lose control" in hindsight.