But how are unions bad?
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I am laughing you would insert SkyMall as your example.OZONE said:
Fixed it for you.HuskiesADW said:
The idea of SkyMall was great but now I don't really see the benefit that they bring. I find that SkyMall really benefits the individual that runs SkyMall. If you don't believe me look or ask how much the SkyMall CEO made last year.
Some of the government approved oligopolies and monopolies that control our economy fuck shit up more than the longshoreman do, and the executives running them earn a fuck of a lot more than a longshoreman.
It's funny the hypocrisy that some conservatives barf out when they go on their rants.
Read a fucking history book.
And comprehend it.
I guess you anti union folks want to return to the days when 14 year old kids worked 60 our weeks in coal mines... the "good old days" of true american capitalism.
Like the Union, SkyMall is an antiquated business model who has met its demise. -
I agree with your last point. On the first point however, declining unionization can only lead to backsliding while you wait for the workforce to go back and learn new skills.topdawgnc said:
Union membership continues to decline. The reason is because when given a choice, people don't want to belong. The relative conditions have changed, significantly. Companies provide benefits to attract employees. It is now expected. We thank unions for their contribution. Now it is time for them to go.doogsinparadise said:It's illogical to say "unions have outlived their usefulness." The relative conditions within the economy are no different than during this long-gone mythical period where everyone agrees (in hindsight) that unions were beneficial. You either believe in the efficacy of unions or you don't, but it's dishonest to claim two different standards.
Anyone who believes a 14 year old would be pushed into sweat shops as a standard is smoking crack.
The reality is the same one the logging industry faced. It wasn't the spotted owl that cost those guys their job ... it was technological advancements. -
That's the point. Unions are no worse than your typical american corporation with overpayed executives.topdawgnc said:
I am laughing you would insert SkyMall as your example.OZONE said:
Fixed it for you.HuskiesADW said:
The idea of SkyMall was great but now I don't really see the benefit that they bring. I find that SkyMall really benefits the individual that runs SkyMall. If you don't believe me look or ask how much the SkyMall CEO made last year.
Some of the government approved oligopolies and monopolies that control our economy fuck shit up more than the longshoreman do, and the executives running them earn a fuck of a lot more than a longshoreman.
It's funny the hypocrisy that some conservatives barf out when they go on their rants.
Read a fucking history book.
And comprehend it.
I guess you anti union folks want to return to the days when 14 year old kids worked 60 our weeks in coal mines... the "good old days" of true american capitalism.
Like the Union, SkyMall is an antiquated business model who has met its demise.
Why do you hate america?
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I love America.OZONE said:
That's the point. Unions are no worse than your typical american corporation with overpayed executives.topdawgnc said:
I am laughing you would insert SkyMall as your example.OZONE said:
Fixed it for you.HuskiesADW said:
The idea of SkyMall was great but now I don't really see the benefit that they bring. I find that SkyMall really benefits the individual that runs SkyMall. If you don't believe me look or ask how much the SkyMall CEO made last year.
Some of the government approved oligopolies and monopolies that control our economy fuck shit up more than the longshoreman do, and the executives running them earn a fuck of a lot more than a longshoreman.
It's funny the hypocrisy that some conservatives barf out when they go on their rants.
Read a fucking history book.
And comprehend it.
I guess you anti union folks want to return to the days when 14 year old kids worked 60 our weeks in coal mines... the "good old days" of true american capitalism.
Like the Union, SkyMall is an antiquated business model who has met its demise.
Why do you hate america?
It's the beauty of the free market.
SkyMall bad ... it goes away.
Why are there laws that force people to pay dues, but no laws that force people to buy from SkyMall? -
We aren't sending the workforce back to learn new skilzz. We are simply importing the workforce we need from around the globe and moving them here.doogsinparadise said:
I agree with your last point. On the first point however, declining unionization can only lead to backsliding while you wait for the workforce to go back and learn new skills.topdawgnc said:
Union membership continues to decline. The reason is because when given a choice, people don't want to belong. The relative conditions have changed, significantly. Companies provide benefits to attract employees. It is now expected. We thank unions for their contribution. Now it is time for them to go.doogsinparadise said:It's illogical to say "unions have outlived their usefulness." The relative conditions within the economy are no different than during this long-gone mythical period where everyone agrees (in hindsight) that unions were beneficial. You either believe in the efficacy of unions or you don't, but it's dishonest to claim two different standards.
Anyone who believes a 14 year old would be pushed into sweat shops as a standard is smoking crack.
The reality is the same one the logging industry faced. It wasn't the spotted owl that cost those guys their job ... it was technological advancements.
Seriously... imagine you're Microsoft, Google, Amazon, etc... would you rather hire some dumbshit who took coding for two weeks in a retraining session with an IQ of 80 or hire somebody that's been coding every day of their life, has an IQ of 120 or better who is grateful to have a job in the United States and willing to work 60-70-80 hour weeks without whining?
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Mike Damone doesn't agree with any of this shit. He thinks it would be okay for workers to get paid 30 cents an hour if that's what the market dictates.
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Simple fact. If there were a class of citizens in the US that were considered undesirable and were relegated to slave status, like the Jews in Europe last century, most of our wonderful corporations wouldn't hesitate to exploit them in order to make a profit if it were legal to do so. Henry Ford is a case in point. He used slave labor in Nazi Germany (he should be posthumously stripped of his US citizenship, have his corpse dug up and be reburied in an unmarked grave). Corporations = institutionalized greed. They will gravitate toward the lowest common denominator that the laws allow. Unions at least keep some of them in check.
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Cool 1930 story, brah.oregonblitzkrieg said:Simple fact. If there were a class of citizens in the US that were considered undesirable and were relegated to slave status, like the Jews in Europe last century, most of our wonderful corporations wouldn't hesitate to exploit them in order to make a profit if it were legal to do so. Henry Ford is a case in point. He used slave labor in Nazi Germany (he should be posthumously stripped of his US citizenship, have his corpse dug up and be reburied in an unmarked grave). Corporations = institutionalized greed. They will gravitate toward the lowest common denominator that the laws allow. Unions at least keep some of them in check.
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Yeah it's cool, and still relevant today as long as humans are humans.PurpleThrobber said:
Cool 1930 story, brah.oregonblitzkrieg said:Simple fact. If there were a class of citizens in the US that were considered undesirable and were relegated to slave status, like the Jews in Europe last century, most of our wonderful corporations wouldn't hesitate to exploit them in order to make a profit if it were legal to do so. Henry Ford is a case in point. He used slave labor in Nazi Germany (he should be posthumously stripped of his US citizenship, have his corpse dug up and be reburied in an unmarked grave). Corporations = institutionalized greed. They will gravitate toward the lowest common denominator that the laws allow. Unions at least keep some of them in check.
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