But how are unions bad?

2001400ex said:

What no one disputes is that the situation at the ports is approaching gridlock. According to the Port of Oakland Tuesday, 10 to 15 ships “are anchored in San Francisco Bay daily awaiting berths at Oakland marine terminals.” Truckers are becoming increasingly frustrated at the wait times of eight hours or more to get into terminals and load or unload their cargo.

You might have trouble with critical thinking ...

it is 8 hours to get in and unload and load your truck ... it takes longer to unload 10 to 15 ships that are stacked in queue in the bay.

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Some of our shipments, which are coming into Kansas City are 50 days late.

OZONE said:

Maybe if you bought more stuff that was made in America, you could avoid having to deal with your imported shit getting hung up at the docks.

Oh, and does your anti-union schtick include the police union? Somehow I doubt that.

There are simply items you can't buy in America, for environmental reasons those goods are gone. Maybe they will come back to Messico, but no way do your environmental lobbyist friends let certain factories get built in America again.

I don't believe in unions, period. At one time they served a purpose in this country, their time has come and gone. It shows in the dwindling numbers.

Oh, and does you buy American schtick include your personal buying habits? Somehow I doubt that.

2001400ex said:

topdawgnc said:

2001400ex said:

puppylove_sugarsteel said:

2001400ex said:

topdawgnc said:

jecornel said:

Find a new business. Sorry.

Many businesses are tied to the ports.

Anything coming in from Asia is at the mercy of the ports.

Are you saying that a load that is unloaded 8 hours later is going to sink your business? Adapt. Not everything is about instant gratification.

You are so fucking ignorant ex. Shows your age. Ya know how many fucking businesses depend on timely port delivery for their time-specific inventory practices? Ya do know produce also moves tbrough our ports, seafood et..hit the gate, you're done here

Funny how he won't explain how it affects his business. I'm glad you know everything about it.

Funny how stupid you really are.

All you've said is your load to KC is 50 days late. And unions are killing you. Oh yeah and those union employees make $250k a year, which is a lie.

You, and your henchmen, should likely do some homework before you mock my facts.

The average salary of a longshoreman (before overtime) is 80-160 a year, that does not include overtime.

The work is often erratic, so you are then put in queue at the union hall, where you are paid.

We won't discuss benefits, which are some of the best in the country.

After overtime, bonus, and union perks, senior members will make, take home, 250k a year. That does not include benefits.

For junior members it is less than 250k, throw in benefits and it more than most on this board make.

Learn how unions really work, then come back and play tuff guy ... tuff guy.

Found this on JOC.com ... for what it is worth:

ILWU workers receive a compensation package that is “among the most lucrative among all blue-collar workers in the United States,” according to the PMA. Full-time workers earn an average of $142,000 annually in wages, along with a non-wage benefits package costing more than $82,000 per active worker per year. Pay ranges depend on the job, with regular longshoremen earning less than clerks and both of them earning less than foremen. According to the 2013 Pacific Maritime Association Annual Report, most of the 9,985 “Class A” longshoremen working that year, which comprised those who worked 2,000 or more total hours, earned roughly $137,000 per year, though many earned less and a few of the highest paid longshoremen, those who worked an average of more than 50 hours per week, earned over $200,000. Most clerks earned roughly $147,000, while the highest-paid earned well over $200,000 per year. Walking bosses, or foremen, are the highest-paid ILWU workers, many of them earning well over $200,000 and some more than $300,000. Nearly 13,600 ILWU workers are employed at West Coast ports. In 2013, the total payroll for the nearly 13,600 ILWU members was roughly $1.4 billion. For detail on ILWU worker incomes, see this display.

sarktastic said:

so, now you're saying the average compensation package is $204,000? ... that isn't $250,000 pal.

... and you do realize HALF OF THE LONGSHOREMAN MAKE LESS THAN $204,000, right?

... Pacific Maritime Association is your source?

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