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Why CP will win big at UW, and why it will take a few years. (TLDR)

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  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Look at what Mark Dantonio has done at Michigan St. Took him until year 4 to really get it going. But from years 4-8, he is 53-14 and thats the 6th best record among the major conference teams. No reason Petersen can't have similar success.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,808 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    Petersen will win if he finds a QB and figures out what to do on offense. He needs to adapt. I think it's fair to question if he will fire assistants if necessary. He never had to at Boise.

    I have no worries about recruiting and he's proven at developing players.

    Yep. I'm not sure if firing assistants is necessary or not. Maybe he can coach them up?

    Then again, I'd probably celebrate heavily if I learned he dumped Smith and hired someone proven.
    It's hard to coach up grown-up men who look like Polish grandmas.
    I think he looks like this guy...using the term loosely.image
  • WhiteFlash
    WhiteFlash Member Posts: 2

    Look at what Mark Dantonio has done at Michigan St. Took him until year 4 to really get it going. But from years 4-8, he is 53-14 and thats the 6th best record among the major conference teams. No reason Petersen can't have similar success.

    coach pete has had most of his success against more talented teams by developing 2 and 3 stars into solid players and "team" guys. that beatdown he put on georgia a few years back with all those redshirt seniors at boise is a great example. i expect he'll do the same here except he'll have his fair share of high end talent to go with it.

    cant underestimate the ability of well coached/developed 22 and 23 year old college players, even if they were "only" 3 stars, etc. evalution and development will win the day for coach pete.

  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,435 Founders Club
    TTJ said:

    In short, it's about the "bottom" half of each recruiting class.

    Looking back in hindsight, how many true frosh can you recall playing at UW in a situation completely devoid of need? Kaufman and Bruener both played as true frosh on the '91 team, despite quality upperclassmen in their position groups. Rich Alexis earned his way onto the field in '00, despite a deep bench of veteran RBs. There is probably a small handful of other examples where UW true frosh absolutely forced their way past quality veterans and onto the field. But need is nearly always the driving force behind each decision to take off a redshirt, from Marques Tuiasosopo to Paul Arnold to Reggie Williams, on down to Shaq, ASJ, and String. Lawyer Milloy benefitted from a redshirt, and Budda Baker would have too. Honestly, what player *isn't* better at age 23 than at age 19?

    I believe CP will win big at UW by missing on fewer recruits, developing the guys he has, and gradually playing fewer and fewer true freshmen. The average age of our starting lineup will eventually go way up. It will take a few years, but unlike the last guy CP is here for the long haul. And this patient, grown-up approach will pay huge dividends down the road.


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    And good read.

  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Petersen will win if he finds a QB and figures out what to do on offense. He needs to adapt. I think it's fair to question if he will fire assistants if necessary. He never had to at Boise.

    I have no worries about recruiting and he's proven at developing players.

    If your hero would have recruited just one serviceable QB, Peterman wouldn't be in this position.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,390 Standard Supporter

    Petersen will win if he finds a QB and figures out what to do on offense. He needs to adapt. I think it's fair to question if he will fire assistants if necessary. He never had to at Boise.

    I have no worries about recruiting and he's proven at developing players.

    If your hero would have recruited just one serviceable QB, Peterman wouldn't be in this position.
    According to you, Lindquist is a great QB.
  • AlCzervik
    AlCzervik Member Posts: 1,774

    Look at what Mark Dantonio has done at Michigan St. Took him until year 4 to really get it going. But from years 4-8, he is 53-14 and thats the 6th best record among the major conference teams. No reason Petersen can't have similar success.

    coach pete has had most of his success against more talented teams by developing 2 and 3 stars into solid players and "team" guys. that beatdown he put on georgia a few years back with all those redshirt seniors at boise is a great example. i expect he'll do the same here except he'll have his fair share of high end talent to go with it.

    cant underestimate the ability of well coached/developed 22 and 23 year old college players, even if they were "only" 3 stars, etc. evalution and development will win the day for coach pete.

    I said no racist crap.
  • sarktastic
    sarktastic Member Posts: 9,208

    Petersen will win if he finds a QB and figures out what to do on offense. He needs to adapt. I think it's fair to question if he will fire assistants if necessary. He never had to at Boise.

    I have no worries about recruiting and he's proven at developing players.

    If your hero would have recruited just one serviceable QB, Peterman wouldn't be in this position.
    According to you, Lindquist is a great QB.
    You aren't very smart, are you.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685

    Petersen will win if he finds a QB and figures out what to do on offense. He needs to adapt. I think it's fair to question if he will fire assistants if necessary. He never had to at Boise.

    I have no worries about recruiting and he's proven at developing players.

    If your hero would have recruited just one serviceable QB, Peterman wouldn't be in this position.
    According to you, Lindquist is a great QB.
    You aren't very smart, are you.
    You aren't very clever, are you.