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Raid-uhz hire JDR

PurpleBaze
PurpleBaze Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,333 Founders Club
in NFL Talk
Not a big surprise...

espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12168040/oakland-raiders-hire-jack-del-rio-head-coach
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  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    Can you say RIP if they're already dead?
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    doogsinparadise said:

    Can you say RIP if they're already dead?

    Al Davis is more alive than that fucking morbid franchise.
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  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    Trestman and smith are coming also
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,147
    Their last coach was also the Denver DC. Might as well hire another Denver DC considering it worked out so well last time.
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  • section_332
    section_332 Member Posts: 2,403
    and when we do it a 3rd time it will work.
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    edited January 2015
    Just like always. The NFL hires a bunch of retreads as HC's. John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Rex Ryan? Now maybe Gary Kubiak?
    No one is creative anymore
    Why after Harbaugh, Carroll, Kelly and you could even argue marrone all having success coming from college have teams gone completely away from that well?
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,730 Founders Club
    edited January 2015
    dhdawg said:

    Just like always. The NFL hires a bunch of retreads as HC's. John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Rex Ryan? Now maybe Gary Kubiak?
    No one is creative anymore
    Why after Harbaugh, Carroll, Kelly and you could even argue marrone all having success coming from college have teams gone completely away from that well?

    The NFL coaching fraternity is a strange one to crack. On one end it's arguably the most competitive coaching environment that demands excellence, but on the other you see this retread hiring philosophy persevere.

    Seems like some guys survive in the league 10+ years by getting fired every other season and fleeing to the next coordinator or position coach spot available. Just a weird old boys club.
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    dhdawg said:

    Just like always. The NFL hires a bunch of retreads as HC's. John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Rex Ryan? Now maybe Gary Kubiak?
    No one is creative anymore
    Why after Harbaugh, Carroll, Kelly and you could even argue marrone all having success coming from college have teams gone completely away from that well?

    You could also argue Carroll is a data poont that suggests a "failed" NFL stint doesn't prove someone can't corch. John Fox had more success than Carroll in his first two stints.

    And Doug Marrone sucks.

    What college corches would you be after for an NFL job? After Urban Meyer I can't see anybody that would get me anymore excited than John Fox for my team and John Fox wouldn't excite me at all.

    I agree I wouldn't be pro retread at the NFL level, in most cases. I wouldn't be pro college coach either.

    I think the current trend towards hiring DC's is a good one.
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  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    dhdawg said:

    Just like always. The NFL hires a bunch of retreads as HC's. John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Rex Ryan? Now maybe Gary Kubiak?
    No one is creative anymore

    1. NFL isnt creative in much of anything.
    2. Any of those are a great three year placeholder for Harbs.
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  • UWerentThereMan
    UWerentThereMan Member Posts: 3,475
    edited January 2015
    nt
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  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    Just like always. The NFL hires a bunch of retreads as HC's. John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Rex Ryan? Now maybe Gary Kubiak?
    No one is creative anymore
    Why after Harbaugh, Carroll, Kelly and you could even argue marrone all having success coming from college have teams gone completely away from that well?

    You could also argue Carroll is a data poont that suggests a "failed" NFL stint doesn't prove someone can't corch. John Fox had more success than Carroll in his first two stints.

    And Doug Marrone sucks.

    What college corches would you be after for an NFL job? After Urban Meyer I can't see anybody that would get me anymore excited than John Fox for my team and John Fox wouldn't excite me at all.

    I agree I wouldn't be pro retread at the NFL level, in most cases. I wouldn't be pro college coach either.

    I think the current trend towards hiring DC's is a good one.
    Hiring Carroll after a dynasty.at USC is a lot different than hiring a coordinator who just got fired 2-3 years ago
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,840
    dhdawg said:

    dnc said:

    dhdawg said:

    Just like always. The NFL hires a bunch of retreads as HC's. John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Rex Ryan? Now maybe Gary Kubiak?
    No one is creative anymore
    Why after Harbaugh, Carroll, Kelly and you could even argue marrone all having success coming from college have teams gone completely away from that well?

    You could also argue Carroll is a data poont that suggests a "failed" NFL stint doesn't prove someone can't corch. John Fox had more success than Carroll in his first two stints.

    And Doug Marrone sucks.

    What college corches would you be after for an NFL job? After Urban Meyer I can't see anybody that would get me anymore excited than John Fox for my team and John Fox wouldn't excite me at all.

    I agree I wouldn't be pro retread at the NFL level, in most cases. I wouldn't be pro college coach either.

    I think the current trend towards hiring DC's is a good one.
    Hiring Carroll after a dynasty.at USC is a lot different than hiring a coordinator who just got fired 2-3 years ago
    I don't disagree.

    I just don't think there's a Caroll in the college ranks right now.
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  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    Doogles said:

    dhdawg said:

    Just like always. The NFL hires a bunch of retreads as HC's. John Fox? Jack Del Rio? Rex Ryan? Now maybe Gary Kubiak?
    No one is creative anymore
    Why after Harbaugh, Carroll, Kelly and you could even argue marrone all having success coming from college have teams gone completely away from that well?

    The NFL coaching fraternity is a strange one to crack. On one end it's arguably the most competitive coaching environment that demands excellence, but on the other you see this retread hiring philosophy persevere.

    Seems like some guys survive in the league 10+ years by getting fired every other season and fleeing to the next coordinator or position coach spot available. Just a weird old boys club.
    No different than the corporate world.

    When giving someone the keys to a billion dollar organization ... you sometimes look for the guy who won't crash it into the mountain.

    Think of all the CEO's who do poorly and end up at the top of the mountain somewhere else.
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