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Oregon will be back in the playoff soon
Mosster47
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Initially it looked like Slingblade had the program going into the toilet. Recruiting under Slingblade is flat out better than under Chip.
The Ducks made a title game with Darron Thomas. I loved his clutch play but as far as ability he's the worst QB Oregon has had since before Bill Musgrave. He couldn't really run or throw.
The system isn't slowing down and it hasn't taken a step back. Sure, there will he some plays that the new guys won't make that Mariota probably would. Dixon, Masoli, Thomas, and Mariota all had different games. Dixon had Oregon to #2 in their first year in the system. Masoli had them in a Rose Bowl. Thomas had them in a title game. Mariota had them in a title game. Mahalack will have them doing big things.
The overall roster is bigger, stronger, and faster ever year. Slingblade isn't going anywhere and neither is Oregon, that is the reality. The Ducks will be back in the playoff within the next four years.
The Ducks made a title game with Darron Thomas. I loved his clutch play but as far as ability he's the worst QB Oregon has had since before Bill Musgrave. He couldn't really run or throw.
The system isn't slowing down and it hasn't taken a step back. Sure, there will he some plays that the new guys won't make that Mariota probably would. Dixon, Masoli, Thomas, and Mariota all had different games. Dixon had Oregon to #2 in their first year in the system. Masoli had them in a Rose Bowl. Thomas had them in a title game. Mariota had them in a title game. Mahalack will have them doing big things.
The overall roster is bigger, stronger, and faster ever year. Slingblade isn't going anywhere and neither is Oregon, that is the reality. The Ducks will be back in the playoff within the next four years.
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Or they'll be 9-4 by 2016. Who's with Billy on this?
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either way it will be interesting and UW will have lost 13 in a rowFire_Marshall_Bill said:
Or they'll be 9-4 by 2016. Who's with Billy on this?
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Take that UW shit to the doog bored where it belongs.AZDuck said:either way it will be interesting and UW will have lost 13 in a row
Fire_Marshall_Bill said:Or they'll be 9-4 by 2016. Who's with Billy on this?
We only talk about #MyDucks here.
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In defense of the Quook OP, the Ducks do still play in the Pac-12.
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Best conference in the land, just ask Ted Miller. #BackThePACFSTierbsHsotBoobs said:In defense of the Quook OP, the Ducks do still play in the Pac-12.
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This is why Slingblade isn't gonna pan out.
No...it's not next man up. You need players....and when guys get hurt or superstars leave you are f-ed. Unless you have superstars to replace them. If Slingblade hasn't figured this out and think he can just plug whomever he damn well pleases and thinks Oregon is gonna win 12 games because he's Mark Helfrich....oh boy. -
HuskyJW said:
This is why Slingblade isn't gonna pan out.
No...it's not next man up. You need players....and when guys get hurt or superstars leave you are f-ed. Unless you have superstars to replace them. If Slingblade hasn't figured this out and think he can just plug whomever he damn well pleases and thinks Oregon is gonna win 12 games because he's Mark Helfrich....oh boy.
Right and the Ducks have more talent top to bottom than they have ever had. Almost everyone that got that ball thrown to them was a freshman and we'll be swapping Lowe for Addison which is a huge bump in talent. The tight end spot is fine because it's Oregon. They have been pulling in hordes of offensive lineman and a !of of the depth took a ton of snaps this year. Andre Y and Johnstone are back too. There will be five running backs in fall camp that would all start for UW.
The D-line is back along with adding two Buckner clones. If you start for John Neal you're basically going to start in the NFL or be All-Conference. The linebackers aren't great but they are getting better and help is on the way.
As far as coaching ability Rich Rod is the only threat to "out coach" anyone. Both of the LA schools are ran by shit birds. ASU is ASU. MWAC isn't getting UW anywhere because the only people that care are about dead from the crud.
Oregon has the biggest name in the conference, the best infrastructure, a coach who will never leave, and all the momentum in the world. What I'm getting at is most of you Doogs will die with Oregon as a powerhouse and UW a turd sandwich.
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When did Oregon fire Helfrich?Mosster47 said:HuskyJW said:This is why Slingblade isn't gonna pan out.
No...it's not next man up. You need players....and when guys get hurt or superstars leave you are f-ed. Unless you have superstars to replace them. If Slingblade hasn't figured this out and think he can just plug whomever he damn well pleases and thinks Oregon is gonna win 12 games because he's Mark Helfrich....oh boy.
Right and the Ducks have more talent top to bottom than they have ever had. Almost everyone that got that ball thrown to them was a freshman and we'll be swapping Lowe for Addison which is a huge bump in talent. The tight end spot is fine because it's Oregon. They have been pulling in hordes of offensive lineman and a !of of the depth took a ton of snaps this year. Andre Y and Johnstone are back too. There will be five running backs in fall camp that would all start for UW.
The D-line is back along with adding two Buckner clones. If you start for John Neal you're basically going to start in the NFL or be All-Conference. The linebackers aren't great but they are getting better and help is on the way.
As far as coaching ability Rich Rod is the only threat to "out coach" anyone. Both of the LA schools are ran by shit birds. ASU is ASU. MWAC isn't getting UW anywhere because the only people that care are about dead from the crud.
Oregon has the biggest name in the conference, the best infrastructure, a coach who will never leave, and all the momentum in the world. What I'm getting at is most of you Doogs will die with Oregon as a powerhouse and UW a turd sandwich.
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TierbsHsotBoobs said:
When did Oregon fire Helfrich?Mosster47 said:HuskyJW said:This is why Slingblade isn't gonna pan out.
No...it's not next man up. You need players....and when guys get hurt or superstars leave you are f-ed. Unless you have superstars to replace them. If Slingblade hasn't figured this out and think he can just plug whomever he damn well pleases and thinks Oregon is gonna win 12 games because he's Mark Helfrich....oh boy.
Right and the Ducks have more talent top to bottom than they have ever had. Almost everyone that got that ball thrown to them was a freshman and we'll be swapping Lowe for Addison which is a huge bump in talent. The tight end spot is fine because it's Oregon. They have been pulling in hordes of offensive lineman and a !of of the depth took a ton of snaps this year. Andre Y and Johnstone are back too. There will be five running backs in fall camp that would all start for UW.
The D-line is back along with adding two Buckner clones. If you start for John Neal you're basically going to start in the NFL or be All-Conference. The linebackers aren't great but they are getting better and help is on the way.
As far as coaching ability Rich Rod is the only threat to "out coach" anyone. Both of the LA schools are ran by shit birds. ASU is ASU. MWAC isn't getting UW anywhere because the only people that care are about dead from the crud.
Oregon has the biggest name in the conference, the best infrastructure, a coach who will never leave, and all the momentum in the world. What I'm getting at is most of you Doogs will die with Oregon as a powerhouse and UW a turd sandwich.
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Cute. He's not as shitty as we all thought. I'll admit that I was wrong. He's going to be better than Mike Bellotti which means UW stays in the toilet. -
I haven't seen anything to prove he is better than Bellotti.Mosster47 said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
When did Oregon fire Helfrich?Mosster47 said:HuskyJW said:This is why Slingblade isn't gonna pan out.
No...it's not next man up. You need players....and when guys get hurt or superstars leave you are f-ed. Unless you have superstars to replace them. If Slingblade hasn't figured this out and think he can just plug whomever he damn well pleases and thinks Oregon is gonna win 12 games because he's Mark Helfrich....oh boy.
Right and the Ducks have more talent top to bottom than they have ever had. Almost everyone that got that ball thrown to them was a freshman and we'll be swapping Lowe for Addison which is a huge bump in talent. The tight end spot is fine because it's Oregon. They have been pulling in hordes of offensive lineman and a !of of the depth took a ton of snaps this year. Andre Y and Johnstone are back too. There will be five running backs in fall camp that would all start for UW.
The D-line is back along with adding two Buckner clones. If you start for John Neal you're basically going to start in the NFL or be All-Conference. The linebackers aren't great but they are getting better and help is on the way.
As far as coaching ability Rich Rod is the only threat to "out coach" anyone. Both of the LA schools are ran by shit birds. ASU is ASU. MWAC isn't getting UW anywhere because the only people that care are about dead from the crud.
Oregon has the biggest name in the conference, the best infrastructure, a coach who will never leave, and all the momentum in the world. What I'm getting at is most of you Doogs will die with Oregon as a powerhouse and UW a turd sandwich.
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Cute. He's not as shitty as we all thought. I'll admit that I was wrong. He's going to be better than Mike Bellotti which means UW stays in the toilet.
UW wasn't in the toilet because Oregon had Bellotti. UW was in the toilet because its coaches were shit. -
wiff a bulletTierbsHsotBoobs said:
I haven't seen anything to prove he is better than Bellotti.Mosster47 said:TierbsHsotBoobs said:
When did Oregon fire Helfrich?Mosster47 said:HuskyJW said:This is why Slingblade isn't gonna pan out.
No...it's not next man up. You need players....and when guys get hurt or superstars leave you are f-ed. Unless you have superstars to replace them. If Slingblade hasn't figured this out and think he can just plug whomever he damn well pleases and thinks Oregon is gonna win 12 games because he's Mark Helfrich....oh boy.
Right and the Ducks have more talent top to bottom than they have ever had. Almost everyone that got that ball thrown to them was a freshman and we'll be swapping Lowe for Addison which is a huge bump in talent. The tight end spot is fine because it's Oregon. They have been pulling in hordes of offensive lineman and a !of of the depth took a ton of snaps this year. Andre Y and Johnstone are back too. There will be five running backs in fall camp that would all start for UW.
The D-line is back along with adding two Buckner clones. If you start for John Neal you're basically going to start in the NFL or be All-Conference. The linebackers aren't great but they are getting better and help is on the way.
As far as coaching ability Rich Rod is the only threat to "out coach" anyone. Both of the LA schools are ran by shit birds. ASU is ASU. MWAC isn't getting UW anywhere because the only people that care are about dead from the crud.
Oregon has the biggest name in the conference, the best infrastructure, a coach who will never leave, and all the momentum in the world. What I'm getting at is most of you Doogs will die with Oregon as a powerhouse and UW a turd sandwich.
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Cute. He's not as shitty as we all thought. I'll admit that I was wrong. He's going to be better than Mike Bellotti which means UW stays in the toilet.
UW wasn't in the toilet because Oregon had Bellotti. UW was in the toilet because its coaches were shit.
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The Huskies have more talent than they have ever had. All the receivers were freshman, the wonder twins. Damon Huard is better than Brunell. Kauffman and the stable of running backs are better than anything Oregon has. Breuner and the tight ends are great because its Washington. Every one who plays D line for Washington goes to the NFL. I was wrong about Lambo - he can coach.
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The d line coming back is exactly what I don't want to fucking hear. They can all leave. Every single one of them needs to be an athletic beast weighing over 300 lbs with the speed of gazelles and the killer instinct of panthers or they can GTFO. Fucking sick of losing in the title game.
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Too early to print the 2015 12-0 Dream Season T-shirts?
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RaceBannon said:
The Huskies have more talent than they have ever had. All the receivers were freshman, the wonder twins. Damon Huard is better than Brunell. Kauffman and the stable of running backs are better than anything Oregon has. Breuner and the tight ends are great because its Washington. Every one who plays D line for Washington goes to the NFL. I was wrong about Lambo - he can coach.
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Hi, Lambo went 7-4 his first two seasons with no bowl games while finishing 4th and 5th in the conference.
Slingblade went 11-2 and 13-2 his first two seasons with a an Alamo Bowl and Rose Bowl win with an appearance in the National Title Game. The Ducks tied for 1st in their division his first year and won the conference his second year. Both seasons ended with a Top 10 ranking in all polls.
You're right though, those sound like similar situations. UW went to shit instantly when their legend left. Oregon got better. -
Someone doesn't get it
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RaceBannon said:
Someone doesn't get it
No, I get it. There just isn't a joke here anymore. The bulk of us thought Slingblade was going to be a turd and after a two year body of work nothing suggests that he is.
You're back to running on Doog hope which is fantastic for all of us Quooks. The shit you come with on hope is priceless. -
Mosster is right. 24-4 >>>>>>>> 14-8. Winners win.RaceBannon said:The Huskies have more talent than they have ever had. All the receivers were freshman, the wonder twins. Damon Huard is better than Brunell. Kauffman and the stable of running backs are better than anything Oregon has. Breuner and the tight ends are great because its Washington. Every one who plays D line for Washington goes to the NFL. I was wrong about Lambo - he can coach.
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Lambo hadn't coached yet in 93 and UW was on probation
Like I said you don't get it.
Things can change faster than you could ever think. Doesn't mean they will just means Mosster is fucking stupid as usual with his ever changing pronouncements.
Helfrich failed to match Coker who looked better than he does at this point in his career.
In 1992 the #1 ranked Huskies played top 10 Stanford o national television. The defending national champs beat the 2nd place Pac10 school 42-7. Hugh Millen called that the apex of the program. Leaving the stadium nobody knew that two weeks later the Seattle Times would break the Billy Joe Hobart story.
The Third Reich didn't last a thousand years. Shit happens. The only constant is change.
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That fucko Race plagiarismed my shit. Coker > Slingblade at this point. Coker was coaching at a program with greater talent, but it also has a higher ceiling, harder to fuck up. Sorry duck fans, but that's true.AZDuck said:
Mosster is right. 24-4 >>>>>>>> 14-8. Winners win.RaceBannon said:The Huskies have more talent than they have ever had. All the receivers were freshman, the wonder twins. Damon Huard is better than Brunell. Kauffman and the stable of running backs are better than anything Oregon has. Breuner and the tight ends are great because its Washington. Every one who plays D line for Washington goes to the NFL. I was wrong about Lambo - he can coach.
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Marriott is gone now along with other "key" players. The system is designed to be plug and play with the right plugger doing the playing, we'll see if (to paraphrase the great @Swaye) Slingblade can follow the master plugger (75k). He might, but chances are he won't and you don't need an "analysis" utilizing a SRS to come to that conclusion.
I get the sense that folks in here think it's easy to go from winning lots of games to winning national titles. It's not, some damn good coaches have tried and failed to break that code. Slingblade is still too early in his tenure to be properly evaluated. I will say that so far he does have Kelly's team executing at a high level, though some of that has to be balanced with them shitting themselves when they get punched in the mouth. Stanford and Arizona last year were clear examples of that, and this year, anyone with a pair of eyes can see that they are not deep with elite fast and powerful athletes such as those at Ohio State. To be fair, USC is probably the only team in the conference that typically has that depth, but they're just coming off sanctions and coached by an inept armenian. Oregon should continue to compete for conference titles, but getting to the playoffs again, under the current format, let alone getting over that last hump will be no easy task. -
Rick won the conference and the Rose Bowl with 1 loss in his 2nd season on the job, after finishing 2nd in the conference his first year. He was supposed to be recruiting lights out. He lost his team leading QB after that season.
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Lambright *was* the head coach in 1993.
Comparing Helfrich's situation in Eugene to Coker's at Miami is fucking stupid. Do you think there are 38 Pro Bowlers on Oregon's roster this year?
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Neuheisel might be a better comparison to Helfrich... he never really sucked at UW the way you guys want Helfrich to suck at UO, though.
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You sound nervous
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lol, no
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I've yet to hear from a nervous Duck fan. After last year everyone was shittin' bricks, sorry, shittin' rocks.RaceBannon said:You sound nervous
Larry Coker had 16 first round draft picks. Bill Doba is the only guy you can compare to Larry Coker. They were both given good/great teams as a retirement present. They won a bit, didn't recruit because they didn't care, and were way too nice so their players shit all over them.
Slingblade took over a juggernaut and after two seasons it firmly remains in that status.
Oregon started to get good at the end of Brooks, got way better under Bellotti, became elite under Chip, and are doing everything needed to stay elite under Slingblade.
UW was elite under Don James and went to shit regardless of the head coach after.
What we know is in modern college football that Oregon football is a success, not a coach. Don James was a success, not UW football. The facts are on my side. Congrats on your crystal ball, it's old enough that it can't be on its parent's health insurance anymore. -
I have arguments going on three forums here and another two on another board. And I am right in all of them despite those that would misrepresent what I have actually written.
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While we're using once in a lifetime comparisons I'll throw out Tennessee in 1998-1999. In 1998 they get smashed in their Bowl game and the best QB in school history leaves. In 1999 they win the National Championship with a turn covered in burnt hair under center.
Obviously, Oregon wins it all in 2015 because of this.
