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Study Suggests Oregon is Doomed for a Downturn with Helfrich

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  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    The 2nd biggest doog on this bored is a Broon
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    AZDuck said:

    topdawgnc said:

    What Slingblade has going for him is the system.

    It was designed to be easy and it is incredibly hard to stop.

    Until someone, besides Holt, comes up with a defense that is a scalable blueprint ... Oregon will run the PAC.

    The odds also say they will win a NC in the next 3-5 years.

    It literally is next man up ... because of the system.

    If it was all just a system, everyone would be doing it. Look, no reasonable duck expects you assholes to be falling over yourselves to exclaim how awesome Oregon is. But don't give in to bouts of willful self-delusion and wishful thinking just so you can go back to how it used to be, because that's even less likely than Helfrich being the next Knute Rockne.
    Dude,

    Sorry to pour sand in your panties.

    Facts, are facts.

    It is a system, which requires execution. Oregon does that well.

    Time will tell if Slingblade can manage the system as well as Chip did. But even Chip himself has said he can put any QB in his system and it will be successful.

    Kelly has said several times that he can make his system fit any quarterback.

    It's a system ... and it is all about execution of said system in a fast way that gives the offense a very decided advantage.
  • AZDuck
    AZDuck Member Posts: 15,381
    I think we're talking past each other. Yeah, there's a system. It's a spread. Like any spread, it tries to put skill players in space. Kelly was able to make Masoli successful because of the running threat both from Masoli but also LaMike and Droughns. This in turn opens up the passing lanes. I get all that. Leach's Air Raid is based on a similar principle, only it relies on 5 wideouts to ensure that one will be open on every play. Clearly one is executed better than the other. Also, I think that run-n-shoot offenses are kind of FS because defenses can blanket the field with quarters or zone coverages. But I digress.

    Execution is coaching. I think Slingblade really answered the bell after the Arizona game, and the team's execution has been *really* good. He'd have to lose 6-7 games next year to warm the seat, anyway.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    AZDuck said:

    I think we're talking past each other. Yeah, there's a system. It's a spread. Like any spread, it tries to put skill players in space. Kelly was able to make Masoli successful because of the running threat both from Masoli but also LaMike and Droughns. This in turn opens up the passing lanes. I get all that. Leach's Air Raid is based on a similar principle, only it relies on 5 wideouts to ensure that one will be open on every play. Clearly one is executed better than the other. Also, I think that run-n-shoot offenses are kind of FS because defenses can blanket the field with quarters or zone coverages. But I digress.

    Execution is coaching. I think Slingblade really answered the bell after the Arizona game, and the team's execution has been *really* good. He'd have to lose 6-7 games next year to warm the seat, anyway.

    Yes, he made it to the Larry Culpepper National Championship.

    The further the players get from Chip, the closer we get to finding out how good Slingblade is at managing the system.

    I don't know if he is a good coach. I do know Urban Meyer is better ... and Jim Harbaugh is better ... but other than that ... we shall see.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    My buddy has the data and runs it for various time periods. Cumulatively, Oregon has the #1 SRS for the last 8 years, 6 years etc.

    Chip may have been questioned the first few games in 2009 but Oregon's ascension began when he was hired the OC. Its similar to how Osborne played a huge rule in Nebraska winning 2 NC's in the years after he became OC. In Boise's case, when Hawkins was coach many people were saying Petersen was the genius behind everything.

    The point of the study was to show the pattern of regression in internal hires following an elite coach. The NC game outcome actually doesn't prove or disprove anything in all honesty. The real test will be years 4-5. The study shows that these coaches often don't regress until years 4-5 in many cases.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 26,096 Standard Supporter
    Quuooooooksssss
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680
    topdawgnc said:

    What Slingblade has going for him is the system.

    It was designed to be easy and it is incredibly hard to stop.

    Until someone, besides Holt, comes up with a defense that is a scalable blueprint ... Oregon will run the PAC.

    The odds also say they will win a NC in the next 3-5 years.

    It literally is next man up ... because of the system.

    Running the PAC with their system won't get them a natty.

    They can get away with being soft because the rest of the conference sucks. When they face a REAL team like Ohio State or Alabama, they're fucked.