fast food workers march for higher pay!!!!!!!!1!
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I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.TheKobeStopper said:
No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.DeepSeaZ said:Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.
RoadDawg55 said:I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.
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I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.DeepSeaZ said:I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.
TheKobeStopper said:
No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.DeepSeaZ said:Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.
RoadDawg55 said:I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.
I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.
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I don't tip the bartender I tip the boobs. As for waitresses, I tip based on service. It shouldn't be a given that you do the minimum and I give you more. You give great service with a smile then you get a tip. If the food sucks, and your service is none existent then no tip.RoadDawg55 said:
I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.DeepSeaZ said:I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.
TheKobeStopper said:
No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.DeepSeaZ said:Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.
RoadDawg55 said:I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.
I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment. -
So slip the guy at McDonald's a few bucks next time. What's stoping you? Just because there is no jar doesn't mean you can't hand then a five. But you're not going to do that...so shut the fuck upRoadDawg55 said:
I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.DeepSeaZ said:I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.
TheKobeStopper said:
No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.DeepSeaZ said:Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.
RoadDawg55 said:I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.
I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.
And I dont care they have a tip jar or not. At least its voluntary and not government forcing a business to pay more than something is worth. That said, I won't be tipping any counter service workers. -
I have done that twice. The first time the guy took my $2, and the second time a girl said she couldn't accept tips and didn't want to get fired. I don't really go to McDonald's all that often, so I don't get too many opportunities to tip them. They work just as hard as a lot of workers who get tips. That's the point I was making. I was a pizza delivery boy in high school and I got tons of tips. I bet these workers at McDonald's work a lot harder than I did. All I had to do was take a pizza and drive it from point A to point B.MikeDamone said:
So slip the guy at McDonald's a few bucks next time. What's stoping you? Just because there is no jar doesn't mean you can't hand then a five. But you're not going to do that...so shut the fuck upRoadDawg55 said:
I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.DeepSeaZ said:I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.
TheKobeStopper said:
No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.DeepSeaZ said:Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.
RoadDawg55 said:I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.
I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.
And I dont care they have a tip jar or not. At least its voluntary and not government forcing a business to pay more than something is worth. That said, I won't be tipping any counter service workers.
All this shit about the McDonald's workers should go to school or start their own business is pretty dumb. While I am sure that is true for some of the workers, I'm sure it's not possible for all of them. Some of these people aren't very intelligent, some have disabilities, some were probably crack babies, etc. You don't know all of their life stories. They don't deserve the $15 an hour they are asking for in California, but I don't have a problem with exploring ways to help these people earn more money.
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If you don't like the amount of money you are making, look for a new job that pays more. Or get a second job. Or go to school to learn a necessary skill for a better job. Or do all three of those things. Or just shut the fuck up and continue working at a fast food place for the rest of your life.
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The world needs ditch diggers too
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Explore away...but forcing businesses to pay more than people are worth because you feel sorry for them should be off the table. There are a lot of ways to help the disabled rather than forcing a private business to do it. Maybe start a crowd fund thing and people that think those people should make more could contribute, them every month the money could be divides mount those poor folks. But that would never work. Why? Because the people who are pushing to raise the wage wouldn't contribute. It's all great as long as its someone else who is paying.RoadDawg55 said:
I have done that twice. The first time the guy took my $2, and the second time a girl said she couldn't accept tips and didn't want to get fired. I don't really go to McDonald's all that often, so I don't get too many opportunities to tip them. They work just as hard as a lot of workers who get tips. That's the point I was making. I was a pizza delivery boy in high school and I got tons of tips. I bet these workers at McDonald's work a lot harder than I did. All I had to do was take a pizza and drive it from point A to point B.MikeDamone said:
So slip the guy at McDonald's a few bucks next time. What's stoping you? Just because there is no jar doesn't mean you can't hand then a five. But you're not going to do that...so shut the fuck upRoadDawg55 said:
I bet you tip a bartender for getting you a beer though. Or a waiter who puts in an order and brings you your food. Oh, and the waiter asks how the food is. What a tough job. Do you tip your barber, your taxi driver? These people are just doing their job, but most of them expect to be tipped.DeepSeaZ said:I don't tip baristas either. But maybe I have it backwards. I should put a tip jar on my desk. Every time I help someone, you know - do my fucking job, I can point to the tip jar. Tips are for people who add value above and beyond the standard expectation. Not for a $1 burger that they already spit in.
TheKobeStopper said:
No one would fucking make you tip. Christ, some of you are such assholes. Starbucks baristas get tips for not doing shit. McDonalds doesn't let them put tip jars out. If they just did let them do that it would make a pretty big difference.DeepSeaZ said:Why would I tip them? They aren't providing a service beyond what I can get from a vending machine.
RoadDawg55 said:I think McDonald's workers should be paid more, or at least be able to make tips. They work just as hard or harder than most restaurant workers so why can't they be tipped? I don't see a problem with them getting $9 instead of $7.
I don't necessarily disagree with you that most of these people don't really deserve tips for doing their job, but I don't see why there would be outrage if McDonald's workers had a tip jar. If you want to give them a dollar, give them a dollar, if you don't, fine. It's really no different from a lot of other jobs, it just has the negative stigma of being a fast food job, which are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to employment.
And I dont care they have a tip jar or not. At least its voluntary and not government forcing a business to pay more than something is worth. That said, I won't be tipping any counter service workers.
All this shit about the McDonald's workers should go to school or start their own business is pretty dumb. While I am sure that is true for some of the workers, I'm sure it's not possible for all of them. Some of these people aren't very intelligent, some have disabilities, some were probably crack babies, etc. You don't know all of their life stories. They don't deserve the $15 an hour they are asking for in California, but I don't have a problem with exploring ways to help these people earn more money.
By the way, if they don't "deserve" $15, just what arbitrary figure do they " deserve". -
Lol, aged like milk this one didvolcanodawg said:march where?
if i owned a McDonalds, i'd go hire some more $7/hr fucktards and backfill these idiots who are walking out. wernt happy about $7/hr, well how about $0/hr?
why do fast food workers feel they should make more money? because they entitled? entitled to what? fucking go to school and better yourself or better yet, start a bidness yourself and make some god damned money you can be proud of. fucking fuck fuck fuck.
even when i was growing up, fast food was looked at as a high school job or what lifelong underachievers do.....when did that change?
flip burgers, make a $100K....only in Obama's America is this even a fucking topic of discussion. -
It's rough when your crack or meth or heroin habit costs $100 per day.DerekJohnson said:and a sympathetic media rolls out somebody with three kids and presents them as "how is this person supposed to raise 3 kids on $7.50 an hour?" Instead of asking the real questions that need to be asked.
"Harm Reduction," Idiots call it. Yet it's the #1 cause of homelessness on the West Coast. -
JFC RoadDawg had a shitty take in this thread. Labor theory of value and everything.
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Why? Because people who have invested zero in their own future and those who repeatedly make poor decisions which fuck up their lives and those of their offspring will never be contributing members of society. Its like when I am at a stop light and see a perfectly capable and physically fit young person begging on the corner while holding the proverbial "I AM HOMELESS AND HUNGRY" sign. If they aren't going to contribute, give any effort and make good decisions, why should I care about them when they clearly don't care?RoadDawg55 said:
It doesn't at all. I'm just curious why it bothers some of you so much.DerekJohnson said:
Why does it matter to you if we want to comment on it?RoadDawg55 said:I was trying to get a reaction with my earlier post, but why does it matter to you guys if McDonald's workers want to get paid more?
Flipping burgers is a dead end job. Minimal requirements are necessary in order work there. One should never be demanding more money at a dead end job. -
I generally agree. Really tired of newspaper and local news reports on some tragic homeless family. Usually starts with, "The family problems began when the husband lost his job". Like for what? Absenteeism? Showing up drunk? Stealing? I realize that some are jobless because of some circumstances outside of their control, but not every phucking time? I have seen a woman and her two kids begging in the Fred Meyer parking lot when it was 95 degrees and the fat husband was wearing a wife beater shirt and was sleeping their car next to where they were begging.Bendintheriver said:
Why? Because people who have invested zero in their own future and those who repeatedly make poor decisions which fuck up their lives and those of their offspring will never be contributing members of society. Its like when I am at a stop light and see a perfectly capable and physically fit young person begging on the corner while holding the proverbial "I AM HOMELESS AND HUNGRY" sign. If they aren't going to contribute, give any effort and make good decisions, why should I care about them when they clearly don't care?RoadDawg55 said:
It doesn't at all. I'm just curious why it bothers some of you so much.DerekJohnson said:
Why does it matter to you if we want to comment on it?RoadDawg55 said:I was trying to get a reaction with my earlier post, but why does it matter to you guys if McDonald's workers want to get paid more?
Flipping burgers is a dead end job. Minimal requirements are necessary in order work there. One should never be demanding more money at a dead end job.
There really aren't any dead end jobs. Burger flipping is an entry level job. Not hard to get to be an assistant manager, then move on from there. Show up on time, take additional shifts, work hard, pay attention and move on up the ladder. Plenty of Home Depot millionaires that started work as a stock boy back in the day. If you don't want to be better, you won't.
