Anyone thoughts really change after last nights game?
Still holding onto my year 3 philosophy with Petersen. Praying to Allah Miles is not the QB by that year.
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He gets three years. If it were a true salvage job I might give him more time. Every team has holes, every team has to play freshmen, and every good coach can develop players. We should start to see that.
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I'm still in on Pete having 3 years, but this Miles situation is becoming really fucked up. It's borderline your eyes are as good as mine JR Hasty shit. Nothing I saw from Troy or the Swede tells me they wouldn't be better if they had the reps and opportunities Miles has had.
Why are esteemed coach isn't tinkering with it at all is maddening. It's the Great Mystery that only gets, well, more mysterious...And dare I say divisive. -
As bad as Miley is, do not forget how terrible Lindy was at Hawaii. Accuracy was terrible, bad in the pocket, and his "running" has become what y'all like to call Doog legend. I can think of one run where Lindy ran like 245 lb cornfed manchild. The rest he tip-toed like a Somalian ballerina.
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Nothing changed with me. Just got call from FRANNY 5 minutes ago and told me I was to show up inMaltby. If dad has stuff to do have him leave with you. I'll have Anna take me and Dad can leave with you. I would prefer u and dad leave together. I'll ask Anna. Shouldn't be a problem. If she can't I'll let you knowCuntWaffle said:Only thing that changed for me is I believe I have an unhealthy hatred for Cyler Miles that may need some counseling if it gets anymore hostile.
Still holding onto my year 3 philosophy with Petersen. Praying to Allah Miles is not the QB by that year. -
If we're going to bash Somalian ballerinas I'm fucking OUT.GrundleStiltzkin said:As bad as Miley is, do not forget how terrible Lindy was at Hawaii. Accuracy was terrible, bad in the pocket, and his "running" has become what y'all like to call Doog legend. I can think of one run where Lindy ran like 245 lb cornfed manchild. The rest he tip-toed like a Somalian ballerina.
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I hope Miles transfers to Oregon and replaces Mariota as the starter next year.
A doog can hope, can't he?
P.S. Pete needs to get his guys in there. Seriously. Glad the OL is being blown up next year. Blow it up.
And no, for all the retards out there. There is no excuse for how we came out in the 1st half. Don't twist. -
At least you can't count how many times the laces revolve when the Swede throws it.GrundleStiltzkin said:As bad as Miley is, do not forget how terrible Lindy was at Hawaii. Accuracy was terrible, bad in the pocket, and his "running" has become what y'all like to call Doog legend. I can think of one run where Lindy ran like 245 lb cornfed manchild. The rest he tip-toed like a Somalian ballerina.
I remember how bad he was the 2nd half of that game. I also have a hard time believing if he had all the 1s practice reps plus game time Miley has had he would be worse than what we currently see. Same goes for Troy, he got 1 stormy saturday against a decent D.
I can't imagine any other QB in FBS getting as long a leash as Miley. -
Our QB play is ass.
There's no way that if Peterman is half the talent evaluator that we think he is, that his handpicked QB for the offense that he wants to run can be worse than this (especially after a redshirt year).
We should see KJCS or Browning next year, or we should be very worried. Unless you somehow have hope for Miley. -
This post has some sort of magical powers. I always feel better after reading it.PurpleBaze said:
Nothing changed with me. Just got call from FRANNY 5 minutes ago and told me I was to show up inMaltby. If dad has stuff to do have him leave with you. I'll have Anna take me and Dad can leave with you. I would prefer u and dad leave together. I'll ask Anna. Shouldn't be a problem. If she can't I'll let you knowCuntWaffle said:Only thing that changed for me is I believe I have an unhealthy hatred for Cyler Miles that may need some counseling if it gets anymore hostile.
Still holding onto my year 3 philosophy with Petersen. Praying to Allah Miles is not the QB by that year. -
I mostly agree. Just be honest with what Lindy has shown when he's had his chances: ti ti, very little.Doogles said:
At least you can't count how many times the laces revolve when the Swede throws it.GrundleStiltzkin said:As bad as Miley is, do not forget how terrible Lindy was at Hawaii. Accuracy was terrible, bad in the pocket, and his "running" has become what y'all like to call Doog legend. I can think of one run where Lindy ran like 245 lb cornfed manchild. The rest he tip-toed like a Somalian ballerina.
I remember how bad he was the 2nd half of that game. I also have a hard time believing if he had all the 1s practice reps plus game time Miley has had he would be worse than what we currently see. Same goes for Troy, he got 1 stormy saturday against a decent D.
I can't imagine any other QB in FBS getting as long a leash as Miley.
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A 6-6 team got up on them 24-0 at halftime. That is just pathetic. Shittiest QB I've seen... Weak ass running game. Secondary was getting torched. Major step back from the last 3 games. I thought Petersen paid attention to detail and was a top notch coach at getting his team ready. I didn't see any of that shit.
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Peterman gets three years.
I have a sinking feeling Miley gets the nod next year due to experience.
Contrary to popular belief the running game was not bad. It was the passing game that prevented less scoring.
Peterman does have a little Tyrone in him in that he sticks with players when he shouldn't.
I'm not saying Peterman is Willingham, so don't be a twister. -
I'm not worried about the team 'not being ready to play'. I think that's Sark hangover and culture change shit.
What I am worried about is the fact that our QB cannot hit the broad side of a barn, has the mind of an elderly cow with Alzheimer's and the kind of arm that makes me pushing toothpaste out the goddamn tube look like a fucking missile launch.
And we continue to play him for reasons that I cannot fathom. -
Dwayne Washington did not really improve. He has the vision of grandpa Sankey.
Miles never improved and was worse than I thought.
Our wide receivers are worse than I thought.
Their freshman qb and freshman wr abused us.
Our safety play sucks bad. I'm sure king will be benched next year and baker has shown flashes but still gets beat way too much. In fairness to him he should never have been starting this year.
At the beginning of the game the qb was getting rid of the ball so quick that our pass rush wouldn't have mattered if it was dominant. This tells me they obviously saw weaknesses to exploit when we lined up. Not a good day for the defensive staff.
The offense sucks in every way you look at it. They knew all of our tendencies.
Other than that I feel great about the future of this dreck. -
Loved when Gundy was a man and was calling to watch for the option on 4th and short ...AtomicDawg said:Dwayne Washington did not really improve. He has the vision of grandpa Sankey.
Miles never improved and was worse than I thought.
Our wide receivers are worse than I thought.
Their freshman qb and freshman wr abused us.
Our safety play sucks bad. I'm sure king will be benched next year and baker has shown flashes but still gets beat way too much. In fairness to him he should never have been starting this year.
At the beginning of the game the qb was getting rid of the ball so quick that our pass rush wouldn't have mattered if it was dominant. This tells me they obviously saw weaknesses to exploit when we lined up. Not a good day for the defensive staff.
The offense sucks in every way you look at it. They knew all of our tendencies.
Other than that I feel great about the future of this dreck. -
#PrayForCyler #MilesStrongMuttzen said:Our QB play is ass.
There's no way that if Peterman is half the talent evaluator that we think he is, that his handpicked QB for the offense that he wants to run can be worse than this (especially after a redshirt year).
We should see KJCS or Browning next year, or we should be very worried. Unless you somehow have hope for Miley. -
I feel the same. It was always a meaningless bowl game and I always felt the improvement talk was FS. Not because we didn't look better, but because improvement isn't always linear and it doesn't always carry over. Average teams sometimes play well. They sometimes look like shit. What we saw was a very average team.
I feel pretty confident in the culture and recruiting. I think Petersen sucked this year, but I also think he is a good coach who knows what needs changed. There are too many examples of good coaches havIng shitty first seasons to make any huge proclamations.
Next year we will get a better feel and by year 3 or 4 at the latest we will know what we have. -
I think we know what we have.RoadDawg55 said:I feel the same. It was always a meaningless bowl game and I always felt the improvement talk was FS. Not because we didn't look better, but because improvement isn't always linear and it doesn't always carry over. Average teams sometimes play well. They sometimes look like shit. What we saw was a very average team.
I feel pretty confident in the culture and recruiting. I think Petersen sucked this year, but I also think he is a good coach who knows what needs changed. There are too many examples of good coaches havIng shitty first seasons to make any huge proclamations.
Next year we will get a better feel and by year 3 or 4 at the latest we will know what we have.
We have a good coach and a shitty culture.
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Petersen gets 5 years. No coach could turn Sarks mess around in 3 years. Why do all you millenials expect miracles in 2-3 years? A coach needs 5 years to turn an 0-12 team around.CuntWaffle said:Only thing that changed for me is I believe I have an unhealthy hatred for Cyler Miles that may need some counseling if it gets anymore hostile.
Still holding onto my year 3 philosophy with Petersen. Praying to Allah Miles is not the QB by that year.
This team is in worse shape now than when Sark took over. Sark didnt get stuck with Miles and Lindy. He already had Locker, and Ty already had Price commited. Open yo damn eyes. -
Ty was the real QB Guru, sadly enough.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Petersen gets 5 years. No coach could turn Sarks mess around in 3 years. Why do all you millenials expect miracles in 2-3 years? A coach needs 5 years to turn an 0-12 team around.CuntWaffle said:Only thing that changed for me is I believe I have an unhealthy hatred for Cyler Miles that may need some counseling if it gets anymore hostile.
Still holding onto my year 3 philosophy with Petersen. Praying to Allah Miles is not the QB by that year.
This team is in worse shape now than when Sark took over. Sark didnt get stuck with Miles and Lindy. He already had Locker, and Ty already had Price commited. Open yo damn eyes. -
That I should have woken up and filled my coffee cup with Jack Daniels to try and black out prior to remembering what happened last night
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In the history of college football if the coach doesn't pop after 3 years they likely never do. I didn't know it took 5 years to get a quarterback either. The team has issues but it is not that bad of a situation to walk into. Having 3 all Americans on the roster is hardly a rebuilding job.puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Petersen gets 5 years. No coach could turn Sarks mess around in 3 years. Why do all you millenials expect miracles in 2-3 years? A coach needs 5 years to turn an 0-12 team around.CuntWaffle said:Only thing that changed for me is I believe I have an unhealthy hatred for Cyler Miles that may need some counseling if it gets anymore hostile.
Still holding onto my year 3 philosophy with Petersen. Praying to Allah Miles is not the QB by that year.
This team is in worse shape now than when Sark took over. Sark didnt get stuck with Miles and Lindy. He already had Locker, and Ty already had Price commited. Open yo damn eyes.
Next year should be the down year. This year was a disaster. -
Depending on the formation they also had no respect for the perimeter. Their linebackers splits were super compact because they new we were going to run it in the middle.topdawgnc said:
Loved when Gundy was a man and was calling to watch for the option on 4th and short ...AtomicDawg said:Dwayne Washington did not really improve. He has the vision of grandpa Sankey.
Miles never improved and was worse than I thought.
Our wide receivers are worse than I thought.
Their freshman qb and freshman wr abused us.
Our safety play sucks bad. I'm sure king will be benched next year and baker has shown flashes but still gets beat way too much. In fairness to him he should never have been starting this year.
At the beginning of the game the qb was getting rid of the ball so quick that our pass rush wouldn't have mattered if it was dominant. This tells me they obviously saw weaknesses to exploit when we lined up. Not a good day for the defensive staff.
The offense sucks in every way you look at it. They knew all of our tendencies.
Other than that I feel great about the future of this dreck. -
Here's my perspective on the offensive productivity ( or lack thereof) viewing from 10 rows up on the 50 yardline.topdawgnc said:
Loved when Gundy was a man and was calling to watch for the option on 4th and short ...AtomicDawg said:Dwayne Washington did not really improve. He has the vision of grandpa Sankey.
Miles never improved and was worse than I thought.
Our wide receivers are worse than I thought.
Their freshman qb and freshman wr abused us.
Our safety play sucks bad. I'm sure king will be benched next year and baker has shown flashes but still gets beat way too much. In fairness to him he should never have been starting this year.
At the beginning of the game the qb was getting rid of the ball so quick that our pass rush wouldn't have mattered if it was dominant. This tells me they obviously saw weaknesses to exploit when we lined up. Not a good day for the defensive staff.
The offense sucks in every way you look at it. They knew all of our tendencies.
Other than that I feel great about the future of this dreck.
1.Bubble screen to Smurf Mickens for minus 2 to start the game. Guy next to me stood up and yelled " I thought Sarkisian left for SC?" which led to a few chuckles in the stands and a few players in street gear to turn around.
2. Overthrew to the TE on a corner route in the red zone. Led to a missed Van Winkle kick. Cyler was visibly upset during time out after brief exchange with CCP after throwing his receiver under the bus.
3. 4th and a foot on the 35 of OSU. Pooch punt ( after Gundy already converted 2 4th downs). Gutsy Pistol Pete!
4. 4th and 3 option call for a "non- option" offense. Screams desperation.
5. ????
6. Profit.
I thought Pete was an offensive innovator with a pair of stones?
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Something to think about is if we don't play like shit in the first half, we win and the tone is completely different. There was a thread after the game wondering how badly Boise will beat us next year. It's pretty shortsighted to have a different opinion on that game based off the fucking Cactus Bowl.
Sarktastic would have three threads up about how great Petersen is and how much the team improved if we won.
The time to be pissed was after Stanford, ASU, UCLA, and Arizona. A meaningless bowl game wasn't going to make this a successful season. It didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.
We have QB and overall questions about the scheme and coaching on offense. We have to replace both lines. If you liked Petersen before, there is no reason to not like him now. If you questioned him before, obviously there was no visual evidence to change your mind. -
Except Sark improved his team by 7 wins his first Seasonpuppylove_sugarsteel said:
Petersen gets 5 years. No coach could turn Sarks mess around in 3 years. Why do all you millenials expect miracles in 2-3 years? A coach needs 5 years to turn an 0-12 team around.CuntWaffle said:Only thing that changed for me is I believe I have an unhealthy hatred for Cyler Miles that may need some counseling if it gets anymore hostile.
Still holding onto my year 3 philosophy with Petersen. Praying to Allah Miles is not the QB by that year.
This team is in worse shape now than when Sark took over. Sark didnt get stuck with Miles and Lindy. He already had Locker, and Ty already had Price commited. Open yo damn eyes.
And Peterman needed the softest OOC in the history of man AND an extra game to go -1, his 1st Season.
So other than that..... you're spot on as always.
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What a dumbfuck. Now?MrsPetersen said: -
I stopped reading after you implied Okie State would coast in the second half of a close game like they did in the second half of a blowout.RoadDawg55 said:Something to think about is if we don't play like shit in the first half, we win and the tone is completely different. There was a thread after the game wondering how badly Boise will beat us next year. It's pretty shortsighted to have a different opinion on that game based off the fucking Cactus Bowl.
Sarktastic would have three threads up about how great Petersen is and how much the team improved if we won.
The time to be pissed was after Stanford, ASU, UCLA, and Arizona. A meaningless bowl game wasn't going to make this a successful season. It didn't tell us anything we didn't already know.
We have QB and overall questions about the scheme and coaching on offense. We have to replace both lines. If you liked Petersen before, there is no reason to not like him now. If you questioned him before, obviously there was no visual evidence to change your mind.
