Yesterday was proof the BCS was a fraud
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You don't think ESPN is happier than you with a playoff? 15 rating for both games. Ohio and the West Coast for the final. Collin made a good point - no network wants the south as its base of viewership. Ohio State Michigan was one of the highest rated games of the year.
ESPN wants eyeballs. The whole ESPN SEC thing is fucking stupid.
Larry Scott chose a third rate partner and isn't on major providers. That isn't the SEC's fault. -
He should be shot on the 50 yard line for this shit.RaceBannon said:You don't think ESPN is happier than you with a playoff? 15 rating for both games. Ohio and the West Coast for the final. Collin made a good point - no network wants the south as its base of viewership. Ohio State Michigan was one of the highest rated games of the year.
ESPN wants eyeballs. The whole ESPN SEC thing is fucking stupid.
Larry Scott chose a third rate partner and isn't on major providers. That isn't the SEC's fault. -
does the Pac12 Network still even exist? Asking for a friend.
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The BCS was always a fraud.HoustonHusky said:If the BCS was still around does anyone think the championship game wouldn't have been an undefeated FSU vs a 1 loss 'Bama team? ESPN pushed that sham of a system for WAY too long.
Yesterday was just proof that the current fraud is a little better than the former fraud.
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Saying the ACC is a Power 5 conference is like saying the CFL is a Power 2 professional league.
Take the champs of the Pac 12, B1G, SEC!!!, and Big 12, and 4 at large teams. -
Someone's still butthurt his Tiggers lost the title to an ACC school last year.RavennaDawg said:Saying the ACC is a Power 5 conference is like saying the CFL is a Power 2 professional league.
Take the champs of the Pac 12, B1G, SEC!!!, and Big 12, and 4 at large teams. -
That did make rooting for Oregon easier yesterday.dnc said:
Someone's still butthurt his Tiggers lost the title to an ACC school last year.RavennaDawg said:Saying the ACC is a Power 5 conference is like saying the CFL is a Power 2 professional league.
Take the champs of the Pac 12, B1G, SEC!!!, and Big 12, and 4 at large teams. -
Following this logic, the four team playoff is also a fraud. TCU might be better than Oregon and Ohio State.
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The ACC has more playoff championships than everyone but the SEC and whichever team wins on the 12th.RavennaDawg said:Saying the ACC is a Power 5 conference is like saying the CFL is a Power 2 professional league.
Take the champs of the Pac 12, B1G, SEC!!!, and Big 12, and 4 at large teams.
Of course, the SEC has nine playoff titles while everyone else combined will have 8 after the 12th. -
The BCS was about consolidating college football under the ABC/ESPN umbrella...had nothing to do with finding a true "champion". Don't think they predicted (or cared) about the SEC bias that built itself into the system.
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Yep, the system was clearly biased in favor of SEC teams:HoustonHusky said:The BCS was about consolidating college football under the ABC/ESPN umbrella...had nothing to do with finding a true "champion". Don't think they predicted (or cared) about the SEC bias that built itself into the system.
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And the new playoffs are under the same umbrella with better numbers which means more money for ESPN. There was no bias built into the system. Doogman shit here. Close the gatesHoustonHusky said:The BCS was about consolidating college football under the ABC/ESPN umbrella...had nothing to do with finding a true "champion". Don't think they predicted (or cared) about the SEC bias that built itself into the system.
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Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
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Whole lot of overreaction to one 42-35 game. It's not like Bama played like defending champion FSU did yesterday.HoustonHusky said:Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
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2-4TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Whole lot of overreaction to one 42-35 game. It's not like Bama played like defending champion FSU did yesterday.HoustonHusky said:Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
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Yep, the SEC West sucks this year just like everyone else.HoustonHusky said:
2-4TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Whole lot of overreaction to one 42-35 game. It's not like Bama played like defending champion FSU did yesterday.HoustonHusky said:Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
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I don't understand the argument. If in fact the SEC West was "magically gifted" into the title game all those years, how the fuck did they keep on winning them? Shouldn't they have been exposed in the championship games, if there was some exposing to actually be done? Everyone else beat those clearly overrated SEC West teams in the championship game one freaking time.HoustonHusky said:Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
You don't get to invalidate a decade of championships because of one 42-35 playoff game.
The SEC was down this year. That's the only thing last night proved. Of course we knew that long before the game was played. -
I'm not sure about that. For every other sport, that is true, but the South rules college football. That is where most the fans are, hence where the money is. The East Coast doesn't give a shit about college sports, especially football. The same is mostly true for the West Coast.RaceBannon said:You don't think ESPN is happier than you with a playoff? 15 rating for both games. Ohio and the West Coast for the final. Collin made a good point - no network wants the south as its base of viewership. Ohio State Michigan was one of the highest rated games of the year.
ESPN wants eyeballs. The whole ESPN SEC thing is fucking stupid.
Larry Scott chose a third rate partner and isn't on major providers. That isn't the SEC's fault.
The pro sports teams are East Coast and LA centric and that's where the focus is. College Football is different. -
That seems to be the go to post when facts get in the way of feelings about the SECHoustonHusky said:Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
The SEC as we know it came about in 92. The BCS in 96. Saying the SEC didn't win before the BCS is not correct to begin with and disingenuous since the SEC expanding and having a championship game is what got them TV money galore first and made them the force they are.
Bama has always won titles including one in 92 under Stallings.
The PAC 12 has chosen to be the Conference of Champions in sports no one gives a shit about on a back water network you can't get. Deal with it
The PAC 12 should be far and away the best football conference but they aren't. Because the SEC is smarter and the PAC 12 is a bunch of Emmerts and Turners other than Oregon who shows what trying can do
The country thinks only USC can win a natty out here because so far that's true. Oregon may join Washington in getting one but perception won't change over night -
The BCS actually started in 1998 but still.RaceBannon said:
That seems to be the go to post when facts get in the way of feelings about the SECHoustonHusky said:Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
The SEC as we know it came about in 92. The BCS in 96. Saying the SEC didn't win before the BCS is not correct to begin with and disingenuous since the SEC expanding and having a championship game is what got them TV money galore first and made them the force they are.
Bama has always won titles including one in 92 under Stallings.
The PAC 12 has chosen to be the Conference of Champions in sports no one gives a shit about on a back water network you can't get. Deal with it
The PAC 12 should be far and away the best football conference but they aren't. Because the SEC is smarter and the PAC 12 is a bunch of Emmerts and Turners other than Oregon who shows what trying can do
The country thinks only USC can win a natty out here because so far that's true. Oregon may join Washington in getting one but perception won't change over night -
uh, the ACC Coastal winner just took SEC West #2 out to the woodshed.RavennaDawg said:Saying the ACC is a Power 5 conference is like saying the CFL is a Power 2 professional league.
Take the champs of the Pac 12, B1G, SEC!!!, and Big 12, and 4 at large teams.
What am I missing here?
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ESPN would take #MyDucks over those SEC teams any day of the week, including Gameday.
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South Carolina and Miami tied a bowl game. When did this happen?creepycoug said:
uh, the ACC Coastal winner just took SEC West #2 out to the woodshed.RavennaDawg said:Saying the ACC is a Power 5 conference is like saying the CFL is a Power 2 professional league.
Take the champs of the Pac 12, B1G, SEC!!!, and Big 12, and 4 at large teams.
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I think Ohio State Michigan had higher ratings than the Iron Bowl. SEC football is a good brand but more so due to CBS than ESPNRoadDawg55 said:
I'm not sure about that. For every other sport, that is true, but the South rules college football. That is where most the fans are, hence where the money is. The East Coast doesn't give a shit about college sports, especially football. The same is mostly true for the West Coast.RaceBannon said:You don't think ESPN is happier than you with a playoff? 15 rating for both games. Ohio and the West Coast for the final. Collin made a good point - no network wants the south as its base of viewership. Ohio State Michigan was one of the highest rated games of the year.
ESPN wants eyeballs. The whole ESPN SEC thing is fucking stupid.
Larry Scott chose a third rate partner and isn't on major providers. That isn't the SEC's fault.
The pro sports teams are East Coast and LA centric and that's where the focus is. College Football is different.
Football is more popular down south but you need the coasts for ratings
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NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Year Team Record Game Coach
1980 Georgia 12-0-0 Sugar: Beat Notre Dame 17-10 Vince Dooley
1981 Clemson 12-0-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 22-15 Danny Ford
1982 Penn State 11-1-0 Sugar: Beat Georgia 27-23 Joe Paterno
1983 Miami, Fla. 11-1-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 31-30 Howard Schnellenberger
1984 Brigham Young 13-0-0 Holiday: Beat Michigan 24-17 LaVell Edwards
1985. Oklahoma. 11-1-0. Orange: Beat Penn State 25-10 Barry Switzer
1986 Penn State 12-0-0 Fiesta: Beat Miami 14-10 Joe Paterno
1987 Miami, Fla. 12-0-0 Orange: Beat Oklahoma 20-14 Jimmy Johnson
1988. Notre Dame. 12-0-0. Fiesta: Beat West Virginia 34-21 Lou Holtz
1989 Miami, Fla. 11-1-0 Sugar: Beat Alabama 33-25 Dennis Erickson
1990 Colorado (AP)/Georgia Tech (UPI) 11-1-1/11-0-1 Orange: Beat Notre Dame 10-9
Citrus: Beat Nebraska 45-21 Bill McCartney/Bobby Ross
1991 Miami, Fla. (AP)/Washington (Coaches) 12-0-0/12-0-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 22-0
Rose: Beat Michigan 34-14. Dennis Erickson/Don James
1992 Alabama 13-0-0 Sugar: Beat Miami 34-13 Gene Stallings
1993 Florida State 12-1-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 18-16 Bobby Bowden
1994. Nebraska. 13-0-0. Orange: Beat Miami, Fla. 24-17 Tom Osborne
1995 Nebraska 12-0-0 Fiesta: Beat Florida 62-24 Tom Osborne
1996 Florida 12-1 Sugar: Beat Florida St. 52-20 Steve Spurrier
1997 Michigan (AP)/Nebraska (Coaches) 12-0/13-0 Rose: Beat Wash. St. 21-16 Orange: Beat Tennessee 42-17 Lloyd Carr/Tom Osborne
1998 Tennessee 13-0 Fiesta: Beat Florida St. 23-16 Phillip Fulmer
1999 Florida State 12-0 Sugar: Beat Va. Tech 46-29 Bobby Bowden
2000 Oklahoma 13-0 Orange: Beat Florida St. 13-2 Bob Stoops
2001 Miami, Fla. 12-0 Rose: Beat Nebraska 37-14 Larry Coker
2002 Ohio State 14-0 Fiesta: Beat Miami, Fla. 31-24 (2 ot) Jim Tressel
2003 LSU (National Champs)/USC (#1 in AP Poll) 13-1/12-1 Sugar: Beat Oklahoma 21-14/Rose: Beat Michigan 28-14 Nick Saban/Pete Carroll
#-2004 USC 13-0 Orange: Beat Oklahoma 55-19 Pete Carroll
#-2005 Texas 13-0 Rose: Beat USC 41-38 Mack Brown
2006 Florida 13-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat Ohio State 41-14 Urban Meyer
2007 LSU 12-2 BCS Championship Game: Beat Ohio State 38-24 Les Miles
2008 Florida 13-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat Oklahoma 24-14 Urban Meyer
2009 Alabama 14-0 BCS Championship Game: Beat Texas 37-21 Nick Saban
2010 Auburn 14-0 BCS Championship Game: Beat Oregon 22-19 Gene Chizik
2011 Alabama 12-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat LSU 21-0 Nick Saban
2012 Alabama 13-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat Notre Dame 42-14 Nick Saban
2013 Florida State 14-0 BCS Championship Game: Beat Auburn 34-31 Jimbo Fisher
Shocking how the SEC didn't win shit until the magical BCS game showed up... -
Football was invented in 1980? I thought it was 1994?
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I like to say the SEC didn't win shit when the SEC won three national titles between 1980 and 1997, more than the ACC (2.5), the Pac-10 (0.5), and the Big Ten (0.5), and just behind the Big 8/12 (3.5).HoustonHusky said:
NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Year Team Record Game Coach
1980 Georgia 12-0-0 Sugar: Beat Notre Dame 17-10 Vince Dooley
1981 Clemson 12-0-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 22-15 Danny Ford
1982 Penn State 11-1-0 Sugar: Beat Georgia 27-23 Joe Paterno
1983 Miami, Fla. 11-1-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 31-30 Howard Schnellenberger
1984 Brigham Young 13-0-0 Holiday: Beat Michigan 24-17 LaVell Edwards
1985. Oklahoma. 11-1-0. Orange: Beat Penn State 25-10 Barry Switzer
1986 Penn State 12-0-0 Fiesta: Beat Miami 14-10 Joe Paterno
1987 Miami, Fla. 12-0-0 Orange: Beat Oklahoma 20-14 Jimmy Johnson
1988. Notre Dame. 12-0-0. Fiesta: Beat West Virginia 34-21 Lou Holtz
1989 Miami, Fla. 11-1-0 Sugar: Beat Alabama 33-25 Dennis Erickson
1990 Colorado (AP)/Georgia Tech (UPI) 11-1-1/11-0-1 Orange: Beat Notre Dame 10-9
Citrus: Beat Nebraska 45-21 Bill McCartney/Bobby Ross
1991 Miami, Fla. (AP)/Washington (Coaches) 12-0-0/12-0-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 22-0
Rose: Beat Michigan 34-14. Dennis Erickson/Don James
1992 Alabama 13-0-0 Sugar: Beat Miami 34-13 Gene Stallings
1993 Florida State 12-1-0 Orange: Beat Nebraska 18-16 Bobby Bowden
1994. Nebraska. 13-0-0. Orange: Beat Miami, Fla. 24-17 Tom Osborne
1995 Nebraska 12-0-0 Fiesta: Beat Florida 62-24 Tom Osborne
1996 Florida 12-1 Sugar: Beat Florida St. 52-20 Steve Spurrier
1997 Michigan (AP)/Nebraska (Coaches) 12-0/13-0 Rose: Beat Wash. St. 21-16 Orange: Beat Tennessee 42-17 Lloyd Carr/Tom Osborne
1998 Tennessee 13-0 Fiesta: Beat Florida St. 23-16 Phillip Fulmer
1999 Florida State 12-0 Sugar: Beat Va. Tech 46-29 Bobby Bowden
2000 Oklahoma 13-0 Orange: Beat Florida St. 13-2 Bob Stoops
2001 Miami, Fla. 12-0 Rose: Beat Nebraska 37-14 Larry Coker
2002 Ohio State 14-0 Fiesta: Beat Miami, Fla. 31-24 (2 ot) Jim Tressel
2003 LSU (National Champs)/USC (#1 in AP Poll) 13-1/12-1 Sugar: Beat Oklahoma 21-14/Rose: Beat Michigan 28-14 Nick Saban/Pete Carroll
#-2004 USC 13-0 Orange: Beat Oklahoma 55-19 Pete Carroll
#-2005 Texas 13-0 Rose: Beat USC 41-38 Mack Brown
2006 Florida 13-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat Ohio State 41-14 Urban Meyer
2007 LSU 12-2 BCS Championship Game: Beat Ohio State 38-24 Les Miles
2008 Florida 13-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat Oklahoma 24-14 Urban Meyer
2009 Alabama 14-0 BCS Championship Game: Beat Texas 37-21 Nick Saban
2010 Auburn 14-0 BCS Championship Game: Beat Oregon 22-19 Gene Chizik
2011 Alabama 12-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat LSU 21-0 Nick Saban
2012 Alabama 13-1 BCS Championship Game: Beat Notre Dame 42-14 Nick Saban
2013 Florida State 14-0 BCS Championship Game: Beat Auburn 34-31 Jimbo Fisher
Shocking how the SEC didn't win shit until the magical BCS game showed up...
The BCS did manage to kill off the independents and the Big East though.
The SEC was the second best of today's Power 5 conferences for 18 years before the BCS, but the SEC sucked before the BCS. -
You guys need to stop living in the past.
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Pick your date...doesn't impact the statistics. They won at least a share 5 out of 26 years leading up to the BCS "championship" games, and then magically win 7 out of 8 when it shows up. Magic.
Oh yeah...and they are 0-1 since. -
It looks to me like the BCS somehow made Miami and Nebraska implode, even though they played in a BCS title game (Hi Mike!).HoustonHusky said:Pick your date...doesn't impact the statistics. They won at least a share 5 out of 26 years leading up to the BCS "championship" games, and then magically win 7 out of 8 when it shows up. Magic.
Oh yeah...and they are 0-1 since.
