Yesterday was proof the BCS was a fraud
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Not magic. I already explained it. The conference title game and cash bought the best coaches and players and exposure. That's why every league copied them.HoustonHusky said:Pick your date...doesn't impact the statistics. They won at least a share 5 out of 26 years leading up to the BCS "championship" games, and then magically win 7 out of 8 when it shows up. Magic.
Oh yeah...and they are 0-1 since. -
Magic. The SEC title game started in 1991.
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Okay let's take the BCS era titles case by case:HoustonHusky said:Pick your date...doesn't impact the statistics. They won at least a share 5 out of 26 years leading up to the BCS "championship" games, and then magically win 7 out of 8 when it shows up. Magic.
Oh yeah...and they are 0-1 since.
1998 Tennessee - champ in any format
2003 LSU - this one's a maybe, probably a split with USC in some fashion
2006 Florida - probably finishes second, assuming Ohio State could have won the Rose Bowel they probably win it and Florida comes in 2nd. IOW, the BCS found a real champion that the former system would not have found.
2007 LSU - who really knows this year. It wouldn't have been LSU, but who would have own it, OSU? They clearly didn't deserve it.
2008 Florida - Team Tebow's the champion that year no matter what, they were #1 going into the OU game.
2009 Alabama - Unbeaten, untied, undisputed
2010 Auburn - Ditto
2011 Alabama - Alabama almost certainly doesn't win the championship, LSU almost certainly does
2012 Alabama - Depends on who ND would have faced in their bowel game. Easily could have been Alabama, in which case, same result. But if ND faced a weak opponent they probably get the title, in which case this is another win for the BCS finding a better champion.
In a pre BCS system you could maybe argue the SEC drops from 9 titles to 5 in that span, though a more honest approach would say 5 outright plus probably another three split titles. So yes, the BCS helped the SEC a bit. But I can't see any case expect maybe 2007 where the BCS found a worse champion than no BCS would have.
The BCS probably helped the SEC a bit. The SEC helped themselves a hell of a lot more.
If APAG were still alive he'd remind us that correlation does not equal causation. -
And they won titles in 92 and 96HoustonHusky said:Magic. The SEC title game started in 1991.
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Why dont you just plagiarism puppy's shit word for word ? The bcs got it right in the first 5-6 years then completely went off the rails with Nebraska, oklahoma and the SEC. Complete popularity contest with no merit.
If the playoff doesnt go to 6-8 tesms it will be no different. 5 conference champs 4 slots (plus ND) Its already heavily flawed and got it wrong with the SEC already. At what point did Alabama prove its lofty#1 seed? -
Who's everyone else boobie? Why dont you watch a few games and at least be educated when you flap out these sweeping generalities.TierbsHsotBoobs said:
Yep, the SEC West sucks this year just like everyone else.HoustonHusky said:
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Whole lot of overreaction to one 42-35 game. It's not like Bama played like defending champion FSU did yesterday.HoustonHusky said:Lotta butt-hurt here about the SEC west being exposed once they weren't magically gifted into the final game. They didn't win shit the years before the BCS and (shockingly) they aren't winning shit now it's gone.
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@dnc I'm going to have to disagree about Tebow's team in 2008. They had a loss earlier in the year just like SC, but that SC team was unreal by the end of the season and would have destroyed anyone. Anytime your starting linebackers are seniors Bryan Cushing, Ray Maulaga, and Clay Matthews, you're fucking serious. I guess if you're saying how it would be voted in the old format it's hard to say. But on the field it would have been a bloodbath. Poor Paterno's return to the Rose Bowl.
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Agree. I have no idea how Oregon State beat USC that year. That was a dominant USC team with the best defense Carroll had during his run.Doogles said:@dnc I'm going to have to disagree about Tebow's team in 2008. They had a loss earlier in the year just like SC, but that SC team was unreal by the end of the season and would have destroyed anyone. Anytime your starting linebackers are seniors Bryan Cushing, Ray Maulaga, and Clay Matthews, you're fucking serious. I guess if you're saying how it would be voted in the old format it's hard to say. But on the field it would have been a bloodbath. Poor Paterno's return to the Rose Bowl.
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Florida was #1 in all the poles going into the championship, Oklahoma was #2. Not sure who was #3.Doogles said:@dnc I'm going to have to disagree about Tebow's team in 2008. They had a loss earlier in the year just like SC, but that SC team was unreal by the end of the season and would have destroyed anyone. Anytime your starting linebackers are seniors Bryan Cushing, Ray Maulaga, and Clay Matthews, you're fucking serious. I guess if you're saying how it would be voted in the old format it's hard to say. But on the field it would have been a bloodbath. Poor Paterno's return to the Rose Bowl.
If we're talking PLAYOFFS I agree SC might have had a chance, but I was looking at it from a pre BCS lens. And pre BCS, Florida wins that title rather easily. -
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Agree. I have no idea how Oregon State beat USC that year. That was a dominant USC team with the best defense Carroll had during his run.Doogles said:@dnc I'm going to have to disagree about Tebow's team in 2008. They had a loss earlier in the year just like SC, but that SC team was unreal by the end of the season and would have destroyed anyone. Anytime your starting linebackers are seniors Bryan Cushing, Ray Maulaga, and Clay Matthews, you're fucking serious. I guess if you're saying how it would be voted in the old format it's hard to say. But on the field it would have been a bloodbath. Poor Paterno's return to the Rose Bowl.
