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The U part 2

Doogles
Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
Not as good as the origianl "The U" but quality stuff nonetheless.

The thing that jumped out at me that makes this relevant to the board, was the section about Butch Davis going 5-6 in 1997, getting his ass beat by Syracuse 66-13 and then grabbing a double digit 4th quarter comeback win against the #3 UCLA bruins in a postponed late season OOC game.

He was interviewed at the time and expressed no doubt they would win a national title in the near future. He pointed to that season as a small sacrifice for what was to come, and as shitty as this season was in terms of serious coaching blunders, there is a process to the madness.

Very Talented teams can lose during a coaching change. See that 5-6 year, or our well documented 3 AA defense (4 if you count Peters) this season. It's the behind the scenes shit we can't see over our boners in sweatpants.

I'm fully encouraged by this notion, and hope Coach Pete takes us back to the promised land.
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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    Also the 2000 UW game is briefly highlighted in the year the Canes turned their program around. Anytime you can see those beautiful REAL Purple Jerseys dominating a team on 30 for 30 is special.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    edited December 2014
    You're right. Not as good as part 1. Fun to remember all that talent from 1999 to 2002. I mean fuck: reggie Wayne Santana moss and Andre Johnson? Same fucking team? Ok. Bubba franks to Jeremy Shockey to kwii? Alright. Edge to najeh to Portis to McGahee to frank gore? Okie dokie. Nate Webster to Dan Morgan to Jon vilma & DJ Williams? Ed reed to Sean Taylor? Antrelle rolle and big Vince wilfork anyone? Fuck you USC under Pete or any Nebraska team - 1995 included. Suck it.

    But in terms of historical impact on the game and back story? I'll take my guys from the decade before in the 80s. Much more compelling.

    That said: when that 2001 team was focused not a team I've seen ever would hang with them. Perfectly balanced on offense and a mean talented defense that could smother you against the run or pass. That roster must represent more pro bowls than any other ever. I'll figure that out some time.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    I'm going full Cockus here with a third post in a row, but FUCK Joey Harrington for beating us that season.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    God Dammit Creepy! You ruined my streak!
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    Postus interuptis!
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    edited December 2014
    Interesting when you think about that season. The old system wasn't always that bad. Went to a rose and won. Had the playoff been around we might have had a wash miami rematch which I don't think would have gone well for wash a second time around. By the end of 2000 it was obvious how good they were.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    The part that I found funny was that the players went to the AD and told them to hire Coker to not F things up ... and then saying that they basically ran the team and Coker was just along for the ride.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    edited December 2014
    Tequilla said:

    The part that I found funny was that the players went to the AD and told them to hire Coker to not F things up ... and then saying that they basically ran the team and Coker was just along for the ride.

    it's always like that. we all want what's familiar. i remember back when Jimmy left for Dallas and Steve Walsh was contemplating whether to come back and play for Erickson. He chose to enter the supplemental draft, and a big reason for that was that Miami had passed on their long-time offensive coordinator, Gary Stevens. Walsh thought Stevens should have been chosen for the job.

    Same thing here. And in some respects, at least for the short-term, they were right. A new guy probably would have been too disruptive in the near term for a title run.

    Even with all that talent, you need chemistry and you need some breaks. Coker was just fine for one year.

    There's a story that goes around about Coker at the Rose Bowl. Coker had spent a lot of his career in the Big 8/Big 12 at Oklahoma State and I think one other stop. Anyway, he'd had a lot of experience getting his ass handed to him by Nebraska.

    So the story goes he's absolutely nervous in the locker room, like "that's fucking Nebraska out there!" kind of thing. I guess Ed Reed or someone goes up to him and calms him down and tells him, "You're not at Oklahoma State anymore coach. This is Miami. We got this."

    From all accounts, Coker is a good guy and a pretty fair O coordinator. But he was NEVER HC material, particularly at a place like Miami, which is its own animal altogether distinct from Northern football culture but also from Southern football culture. Miami is Miami. It's comparable to nothing else.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,052

    You're right. Not as good as part 1. Fun to remember all that talent from 1999 to 2002. I mean fuck: reggie Wayne Santana moss and Andre Johnson? Same fucking team? Ok. Bubba franks to Jeremy Shockey to kwii? Alright. Edge to najeh to Portis to McGhee to frank gore? Okie dokie. Nate Webster to Dan Morgan to Jon vilma & DJ Williams? Ed reed to Sean Taylor? Antrelle rolle and big Vince wilfork anyone? Fuck you USC under Pete or any Nebraska team - 1995 included. Suck it.

    But in terms of historical impact on the game and back story? I'll take my guys from the decade before in the 80s. Much more compelling.

    That said: when that 2001 team was focused not a team I've seen ever would hang with them. Perfectly balanced on offense and a mean talented defense that could smother you against the run or pass. That roster must represent more pro bowls than any other ever. I'll figure that out some time.

    Everything in the 80's was better. The blow was better, the big haired chicks, the trash talking, the music.

    Fuck everything after the 80's.

  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club

    You're right. Not as good as part 1. Fun to remember all that talent from 1999 to 2002. I mean fuck: reggie Wayne Santana moss and Andre Johnson? Same fucking team? Ok. Bubba franks to Jeremy Shockey to kwii? Alright. Edge to najeh to Portis to McGhee to frank gore? Okie dokie. Nate Webster to Dan Morgan to Jon vilma & DJ Williams? Ed reed to Sean Taylor? Antrelle rolle and big Vince wilfork anyone? Fuck you USC under Pete or any Nebraska team - 1995 included. Suck it.

    But in terms of historical impact on the game and back story? I'll take my guys from the decade before in the 80s. Much more compelling.

    That said: when that 2001 team was focused not a team I've seen ever would hang with them. Perfectly balanced on offense and a mean talented defense that could smother you against the run or pass. That roster must represent more pro bowls than any other ever. I'll figure that out some time.

    Everything in the 80's was better. The blow was better, the big haired chicks, the trash talking, the music.

    Fuck everything after the 80's.

    Come to SF and I guarantee you'll change your tune.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037

    You're right. Not as good as part 1. Fun to remember all that talent from 1999 to 2002. I mean fuck: reggie Wayne Santana moss and Andre Johnson? Same fucking team? Ok. Bubba franks to Jeremy Shockey to kwii? Alright. Edge to najeh to Portis to McGhee to frank gore? Okie dokie. Nate Webster to Dan Morgan to Jon vilma & DJ Williams? Ed reed to Sean Taylor? Antrelle rolle and big Vince wilfork anyone? Fuck you USC under Pete or any Nebraska team - 1995 included. Suck it.

    But in terms of historical impact on the game and back story? I'll take my guys from the decade before in the 80s. Much more compelling.

    That said: when that 2001 team was focused not a team I've seen ever would hang with them. Perfectly balanced on offense and a mean talented defense that could smother you against the run or pass. That roster must represent more pro bowls than any other ever. I'll figure that out some time.

    Everything in the 80's was better. The blow was better, the big haired chicks, the trash talking, the music.

    Fuck everything after the 80's.

    Porn was WAAAAAY better. Big tits meant big TITS, not silicon bumpers.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,726 Founders Club
    Also Greg Olsen is a G for making a rap song about cumming on girls tits with a bunch of black dudes. Highlight of the film, imo.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    edited December 2014
    Doogles said:

    Also Greg Olsen is a G for making a rap song about cumming on girls tits with a bunch of black dudes. Highlight of the film, imo.

    he's awkwardly sitting there trying to explain it like a rational adult. I'm like, "Greg. it's ok. you're 6'5", you played TE for the Miami Hurricanes and you could be a surfer magazine model. we get it. you got, and still get, A LOT of pussy. sing about it! we're not judging."

    the shit that draws attention at Miami has always amazed me.

    I remember when the Playmaker ran over the foot of a U Miami law student who was crossing the street on campus. I mean, I don't think the guy was even injured. and this made national news BACK THEN! Like, b4 the fucking internet. I was reading and hearing about this fucking story all the way up here in Seattle of Irvin driving through campus and running over someone's fucking foot!



  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    edited December 2014
    [duplicate post] fuck


  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    That loss to Miami still haunts the UCLA program. I couldn't watch it tonight.

    A hurricane make up game after UCLA rang up 20 consecutive wins against a shit team. Win and they are playing Tennessee in the BCS title game and McNown probably wins the Heisman. Instead they blow a late lead, and got screwed on a fumble call (pre-replay). Lost the game. No title shot. Shit the bed in the Rosebowl vs Ron Dayne a month later.

    The UCLA program went into a tailspin after that game aided by two fucktarded hires and Pete Carrolls reign. They just now are emergin from that nightmare.
  • BallSacked
    BallSacked Member Posts: 3,279
    edited December 2014
    Forgot how sandy vag Belotti called the BCS worse than cancer after Nebraska made it in over the ducks.Can you imagine the meltdown OBK would have had if this place existed back then?

    It woulda been a cool day for schadenfreude, man
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098

    Fogot how sandy vag Belotti called the BCS worse than cancer after Nebraska made it in over the ducks.Can you imagine the meltdown OBK would have had if this place existed back then?

    It woulda been a cool day for schadenfreude, man

    Instead we got the picture of Bellotti sitting at the National Championship game kicking and screaming about how his Quooks should have had the chance to get their ass kicked by the U ...


  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037
    That miami team would have plungered anybody. Oregon included. It worked out better for the ducks.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037

    That loss to Miami still haunts the UCLA program. I couldn't watch it tonight.

    A hurricane make up game after UCLA rang up 20 consecutive wins against a shit team. Win and they are playing Tennessee in the BCS title game and McNown probably wins the Heisman. Instead they blow a late lead, and got screwed on a fumble call (pre-replay). Lost the game. No title shot. Shit the bed in the Rosebowl vs Ron Dayne a month later.

    The UCLA program went into a tailspin after that game aided by two fucktarded hires and Pete Carrolls reign. They just now are emergin from that nightmare.

    Yep. Don't forget though that edgerin James ran for 299 yds. Against them. You give up 3 hundy to anyone you prob don't belong in the title game.

    Ucla was a little bit of a pretender. I remember not being completely shocked by the upset.
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,122
    Randy Shannon had no balls. Told players and coaches to stay away from Shapiro, yet still let him throw parties and financially support players. And run thru the smoke.

    Randy Shannon a bitch. If he actually didn't want to give access to Shapiro he could have cut the guy off.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037

    Randy Shannon had no balls. Told players and coaches to stay away from Shapiro, yet still let him throw parties and financially support players. And run thru the smoke.

    Randy Shannon a bitch. If he actually didn't want to give access to Shapiro he could have cut the guy off.

    I'm guessing it's not that simple. You can't be there with them all the time.

    I fault Shannon for a lot of things but not this. He had a good sniffer and good street sense. But he can't be evrywhere.
  • JaWarrenJaHooker
    JaWarrenJaHooker Member Posts: 2,122
    How the fuck is Shalala still the president?
  • Gladstone
    Gladstone Member Posts: 16,419
    Just finished watching it, amazing. 30 for 30 is a godsend of a show. Would love to see them do UW football from James hiring onward through the upper campus betrayal and Willingham driving the stake into the heart of the program.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    That loss to Miami still haunts the UCLA program. I couldn't watch it tonight.

    A hurricane make up game after UCLA rang up 20 consecutive wins against a shit team. Win and they are playing Tennessee in the BCS title game and McNown probably wins the Heisman. Instead they blow a late lead, and got screwed on a fumble call (pre-replay). Lost the game. No title shot. Shit the bed in the Rosebowl vs Ron Dayne a month later.

    The UCLA program went into a tailspin after that game aided by two fucktarded hires and Pete Carrolls reign. They just now are emergin from that nightmare.


    That game did knock UCLA for a loop, but being objective, the underlying problem was that UCLA played shit defense.
  • steelheader2
    steelheader2 Member Posts: 373
    Loved Miami since mid 80's. In today's playoff system the final 4 matchups in 2000 would have been #1 Oklahoma vs UW and then #2 FSU vs Miami re match. That would have been unreal.
  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133
    The "fluke" at UW was funny. They bitched because they were behind #2 FSU in the polls (who they beat) yet were ahead of #4Washington who they lost to.
  • steelheader2
    steelheader2 Member Posts: 373
    Miami also beat #2 Virginia Tech though. True on being ahead of UW who they lost to.
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,037

    That loss to Miami still haunts the UCLA program. I couldn't watch it tonight.

    A hurricane make up game after UCLA rang up 20 consecutive wins against a shit team. Win and they are playing Tennessee in the BCS title game and McNown probably wins the Heisman. Instead they blow a late lead, and got screwed on a fumble call (pre-replay). Lost the game. No title shot. Shit the bed in the Rosebowl vs Ron Dayne a month later.

    The UCLA program went into a tailspin after that game aided by two fucktarded hires and Pete Carrolls reign. They just now are emergin from that nightmare.


    That game did knock UCLA for a loop, but being objective, the underlying problem was that UCLA played shit defense.
    exactly. giving up 300 yds. to one running back, even though it was Edgerinn James, says you can play defense.