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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I didn't realize that beating an even shittier Knicks team was a reason to beat your chest and pop off ...

    @RoadDawg55‌ is slipping a bit
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Tequilla said:

    I didn't realize that beating an even shittier Knicks team was a reason to beat your chest and pop off ...

    @RoadDawg55‌ is slipping a bit

    The point was Westbrook came back with a bang. Durant will be back in a week or two and is already full contact at practice. The opponent didn't really matter. We will see what you say when the Thunder wrap up a playoff spot by mid season. Like I said, the Suns, Kings, and Pelicans. It's not even going to be that tough.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    I didn't realize that beating an even shittier Knicks team was a reason to beat your chest and pop off ...

    @RoadDawg55‌ is slipping a bit

    The point was Westbrook came back with a bang. Durant will be back in a week or two and is already full contact at practice. The opponent didn't really matter. We will see what you say when the Thunder wrap up a playoff spot by mid season. Like I said, the Suns, Kings, and Pelicans. It's not even going to be that tough.
    This is some of the biggest pressing that I've ever seen on this bored ...

    They are 5 games behind a playoff spot right now. Phoenix is in 8th place and on pace for a 48 win season just like they had last year. The Clippers are on pace for 55 wins - so let's just forget about them coming back and getting anything better than 8th at this point barring one of the top 7 teams having a similar injury problem.

    IF they make the playoffs they are going to have to play close to .700 ball to get there. It's possible. But the margin for error is basically gone. There's going to be a number of schedule losses that will show up during the year regardless (think 3 in 4, 4 in 6, and 5 in 8 game stretches). That's before getting to having to play games against some of the stronger teams in the league as it is.

    Westbrook coming back strong is less of a surprise than what we'll see out of Durant. Westbrook could for the most part remain sharp while he was out. Durant's conditioning, timing, etc. will be far more hit or miss when he comes back.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    edited November 2014
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    I didn't realize that beating an even shittier Knicks team was a reason to beat your chest and pop off ...

    @RoadDawg55‌ is slipping a bit

    The point was Westbrook came back with a bang. Durant will be back in a week or two and is already full contact at practice. The opponent didn't really matter. We will see what you say when the Thunder wrap up a playoff spot by mid season. Like I said, the Suns, Kings, and Pelicans. It's not even going to be that tough.
    This is some of the biggest pressing that I've ever seen on this bored ...

    They are 5 games behind a playoff spot right now. Phoenix is in 8th place and on pace for a 48 win season just like they had last year. The Clippers are on pace for 55 wins - so let's just forget about them coming back and getting anything better than 8th at this point barring one of the top 7 teams having a similar injury problem.

    IF they make the playoffs they are going to have to play close to .700 ball to get there. It's possible. But the margin for error is basically gone. There's going to be a number of schedule losses that will show up during the year regardless (think 3 in 4, 4 in 6, and 5 in 8 game stretches). That's before getting to having to play games against some of the stronger teams in the league as it is.

    Westbrook coming back strong is less of a surprise than what we'll see out of Durant. Westbrook could for the most part remain sharp while he was out. Durant's conditioning, timing, etc. will be far more hit or miss when he comes back.
    12-1 was probably the biggest pressing on the board. on the board. Next 10 games. @NO, @Phil, @Det, Mil, Cle, @Min, Pho, @Sac, @GS, @LAL. The only back to back in the Laker game. They will win at least 7 of those. Why would there be more 3 of 4, 5 of 8 losing streaks? I'm sure those were really common the past few years when they were winning 55-60 games.

    Injuries were killing this team early. Reggie Jackson, Lamb, and Morrow all missed the first few games as well and needed a few to get back. Perry Jones and Robertson got injured as well. This is maybe the best team in the league healthy. Durant may not be his typically self, but of course he's going to be good.

    I watch an hour or so of NBA every night. The Clippers aren't good. Phoenix sucks and isn't as good as last year. An implosion could happen. The three guards are bickering to management and it's not working out (inside info). If OKC hasn't already gotten the 8 seed by the All Star break, it's happening by March. They will be .500 by early January. The pressing is you thinking it's not going to happen.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Stop changing your story RD ...

    I called you on your BS of saying that the Bastard Sonics will have a playoff spot wrapped up by mid-season ... which is in the next 20-25 games. Even if another team implodes, 5 games is a lot to make up in such a short time period. That's extreme pressing ... at least you are now having the sense to back away from your original comment and saying that it will be by March (so you're basically targeting games 70-75).

    Not surprised about the inside info ... there was a strange silence around teams going after Bledsoe in the offseason. I've gotten a sense over time that he's a guy that tends to think that he's better than he really is. The Suns have a lot of future assets to their name. It wouldn't shock me if they tried to shake some things up if there is enough internal bickering as Dragic to me is definitely a keeper for them and they made a commitment to IT (who probably is driving a good amount of the conflict in his own right).

    You can say what you want about the Clips but they are on pace to win 55 games and won on the road tonight in Houston by 25 points. They may be underachieving a bit (and that's another team where I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit of a shakeup), but barring a major injury to either CP3 or Blake, they aren't going to fall back behind OKC in the standings.

    I've said all along that I've thought that the over/under on wins needed to make the playoffs in the West this year will be 50 games. I'm not 100% convinced that OKC will get back to that point given the uphill battle they are facing. It's possible. I'd put the odds at probably in the 60-65% range that they won't get to 50 wins ... although I wouldn't be shocked if they did ... it will be close. Their odds of making the playoffs would be greatly enhanced by having a team fall back to the pack than going on a run to 50+ wins.

    I think both Sacramento and New Orleans are a year away, but I also see both of them having .500 caliber seasons with an outside chance of getting up to 45 wins. The part that I think will make it harder on OKC is that there are really only 3 pushovers in the West this year ... which makes the easy wins that much more difficult.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Not changing the story at all. The All Star break is midseason. We can quibble over it all day. Barring another lengthy injury to Westbrook or Durant, the Thunder are making the playoffs. Take all the screen shots you need.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    Durant is sure looking sharp in his return ...
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,728 Founders Club
    Westbrook going 6-20 and taking more shots than Durant. Until he accepts he's 1B not 1A the Thunder won't reach their potential.
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Have you guys accepted that the Thunder will make the playoffs yet?
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    @Tequilla - It's gonna happen by Christmas. New Year's at the very latest.
  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,728 Founders Club
    We're looking pretty stupid right now. Just complete choke job on the part of Phoenix, Sac and NO. It remains to be seen, but that 8th spot is looking ripe for the plucking. Golden State might want to drop a few to become the 2 seed.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    @RoadDawg55‌

    My entire line of thought was assuming that Phoenix (or some other team in the West) was going to be in the 47-50 win level. The fact that Phoenix has gone 3-7 in their last 10 and Sacramento has gone 2-8 in their last 10 has definitely moved what OKC is doing along faster.

    As you also noted, OKC is also benefiting right now by some favorable scheduling. Even with a tough game like Cleveland on the schedule, they got the benefit of LBJ not playing.

    1-7 in the West right now are playing at a minimum 57 win pace and for the most part have played very consistent basketball throughout the year. I'm still not convinced that OKC will get past the 8 seed this year - but it's always possible with injuries, etc.

    No question at this point they are an odds on favorite to get into the playoffs. However, their season starts to get much more difficult here at the end of the month and January could be a very challenging month for them.

    I also do think that you'll get another contender for that spot as the year progresses whether it be Phoenix getting their act together, New Orleans riding a maturing Anthony Davis, or Sacramento recovering when Boogie Cousins returns (vastly different team with and without him).

    I'd peg OKC for somewhere in the 50-53 win range right now.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Tequilla said:

    @RoadDawg55‌

    My entire line of thought was assuming that Phoenix (or some other team in the West) was going to be in the 47-50 win level. The fact that Phoenix has gone 3-7 in their last 10 and Sacramento has gone 2-8 in their last 10 has definitely moved what OKC is doing along faster.

    As you also noted, OKC is also benefiting right now by some favorable scheduling. Even with a tough game like Cleveland on the schedule, they got the benefit of LBJ not playing.

    1-7 in the West right now are playing at a minimum 57 win pace and for the most part have played very consistent basketball throughout the year. I'm still not convinced that OKC will get past the 8 seed this year - but it's always possible with injuries, etc.

    No question at this point they are an odds on favorite to get into the playoffs. However, their season starts to get much more difficult here at the end of the month and January could be a very challenging month for them.

    I also do think that you'll get another contender for that spot as the year progresses whether it be Phoenix getting their act together, New Orleans riding a maturing Anthony Davis, or Sacramento recovering when Boogie Cousins returns (vastly different team with and without him).

    I'd peg OKC for somewhere in the 50-53 win range right now.

    A simple, "I was wrong and don't have the NBA dialed in" would have worked.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.

    It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.

    I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Tequilla said:

    If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.

    It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.

    I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO.

    You couldn't have been more wrong. The Thunder are one of the best teams in the NBA when healthy. Keep delaying the inevitable though.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102

    Tequilla said:

    If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.

    It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.

    I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO.

    You couldn't have been more wrong. The Thunder are one of the best teams in the NBA when healthy. Keep delaying the inevitable though.
    Like I said, let it play out a bit more this year. They were 59-23 last year. I don't see them finishing in that range this year. The West is even more difficult to navigate this year.

    You're definitely beating your chest early here ... and there's a lot of games left to be played.

    They have 23 games between now and the end of January. My guess is that they go 15-8 in that stretch.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Tequilla said:

    Tequilla said:

    If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.

    It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.

    I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO.

    You couldn't have been more wrong. The Thunder are one of the best teams in the NBA when healthy. Keep delaying the inevitable though.
    Like I said, let it play out a bit more this year. They were 59-23 last year. I don't see them finishing in that range this year. The West is even more difficult to navigate this year.

    You're definitely beating your chest early here ... and there's a lot of games left to be played.

    They have 23 games between now and the end of January. My guess is that they go 15-8 in that stretch.
    It's not beating my chest. You said it was the most pressing ever seen when I said they would have a spot wrapped up by the All Star break. On 12/14 they are .5 game back. You make bold predictions and you can take your back slaps when you are right, but you have been comically wrong in this thread. If you want to pretend there is still doubt, go ahead. I will happily keep bumping the thread.

    No shit they won't be 59-23 this year. That was never the debate.
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    When the time is right, I will be more than happy to say that I'm wrong.

    But it's still way too early to say that they are in the clear to a playoff spot at this point.

    If at the end of January they are sitting 3+ games up in the playoffs, I'll have no problem saying that I'm wrong.

    At this point, what I'm more wrong about is not my view of OKC, but it's my view that they'd have competition at the 50 win marker.
  • doogsinparadise
    doogsinparadise Member Posts: 9,320
    I for one cannot wait for six more months of Roaddawg and Tequila arguing about the NBA. Should be fun!
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    edited December 2014
    Tequilla said:

    When the time is right, I will be more than happy to say that I'm wrong.

    But it's still way too early to say that they are in the clear to a playoff spot at this point.

    If at the end of January they are sitting 3+ games up in the playoffs, I'll have no problem saying that I'm wrong.

    At this point, what I'm more wrong about is not my view of OKC, but it's my view that they'd have competition at the 50 win marker.

    They're a half game back with a top 4 caliber team that's now healthy. The question at this point isn't whether they'll make the playoffs but how high of a seed can they get.

    You were hilariously wrong. Just own it and we can all move on.

  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,102
    I realize it's one game and there's still a lot of need to LIPO, but with Durant's ankle injury tonight, combined with Golden State coming back from a MASSIVE 1st quarter deficit tonight, who knows what will happen going forward.

    I will definitely say that a healthy KD looks like he's on a mission.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,144
    Tequilla said:

    I realize it's one game and there's still a lot of need to LIPO, but with Durant's ankle injury tonight, combined with Golden State coming back from a MASSIVE 1st quarter deficit tonight, who knows what will happen going forward.

    I will definitely say that a healthy KD looks like he's on a mission.

    Just stop. It was a close loss against the Warriors without Durant for the second half. The Thunder are a top 4 team in the league and have been for about 5 years now.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter

    Tequilla said:

    My Clippers?

    I like watching them - but I've never been a Clipper fan or anything more than an observer of them. Same concept that I have with Golden State - who has grown up and learned to play some defense which makes them a legit contender in the West.

    It's Golden State right now that looks like they are the biggest threat to San Antonio.

    I know you aren't an actual Clippers fan, but you chose them to sweep Golden State last year and beat the Thunder. Then you called them a contender before this season. OKC is making the playoffs. KD and Westbrook are coming back any day, Westbrook maybe as early as Friday.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11934264/kevin-durant-russell-westbrook-return-oklahoma-city-thunder-practice
    How can you remember this stuff?
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,676 Standard Supporter
    Tequilla said:

    If the Suns were just 5-5 in their last 10 games instead of 7-3, they'd still be on a 46-47 win pace. They lost to the Clippers this week in a game where Blake made a 3 at the buzzer to win by 1 on a shot where he got a bounce that you'd get maybe 1 out of 1,000 shots.

    It's a little premature to say that I was wrong. There's still a lot of things that can happen during the year.

    I'm still not convinced that you're not going to have another team get into the 47+ win range to compete for a playoff spot. OKC's margin for error still isn't high IMO.

    They're 12-14 now. They make the playoffs barring more injuries. Teams like the Suns and Rockets are chumps they can probably pass at this point. I hope I'm wrong as the Blunder are a joke and F Okies etc.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,739 Founders Club

    #MyMavs

    Hell bells! I finally have a fren!
  • RaceBannon
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  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499

    Fuck off

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