Anyone else loony enough to...
barring any catastrophic injuries or fist fights?
I was on the TW should start bandwagon since Stanford but have seen some progress and assertiveness not visible early in the year with Miles. Specifically in decision making and running with the football.
Not a world beater but a poor man's Tui.
I see the struggles of this year as a motivating factor during the off season of pressing.
Tell me I am crazy or FS. I can take it.
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You should listen to the husky fan podcast... this topic is discussed.
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Game moves too fast for Cyler.
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I don't think Miles is the guy for the reason topdawgnc gives. Unfortunately the other two guys we've seen this year aren't the guy so far for similar reasons (well, plus the Swede's scatter arm). I really don't know where things are going at QB. Miles isn't "the" guy, but he's the only guy so far.
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Throwing the ball on time and on target......
- Great QB - 80-90% of the time
- Good QB - 70-80% of the time
- Average QB - 60%-70% of the time
IMO, Cyler is an average QB, save for his ability to run. However, his inability to run the offense quickly and his crappy ball security issues offset anything he does with his legs. He is what he is and has been since HS. Look at his senior year HS stats. Far from impressive. He is a prime example of an overrated HS QB by the scouting services based on his performance as a sophomore. Right now, he may be the best we have, so we have to run with it.
As for a poster or two who watched a bit of Browning's junior year Hudl film, I'd encourage you to watch the whole thing. It was one of the most impressive QB videos I've seen. His ball was thrown on time and accurately over and over and over. And oh by the way, he has 64 TDs to only 4 interceptions with 3,946 yards this year through 11 games, playing for the #5 ranked HS team in the country. Miles senior year.....he threw 14 TDs vs. 8 interceptions with 1,354 yards in 9 games. Apples and oranges -
If you blitz him it's a sure positive play for your defense.
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Like the Oregon State game?
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Don't think they make smart pills.
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Browning looks good and his stats are impressive, but there have been tons of high school QB's who put up huge numbers to struggle or never play in college. I think he will be good, but comparing high school stats is pretty futile.HuskyInAZ said:Throwing the ball on time and on target......
- Great QB - 80-90% of the time
- Good QB - 70-80% of the time
- Average QB - 60%-70% of the time
IMO, Cyler is an average QB, save for his ability to run. However, his inability to run the offense quickly and his crappy ball security issues offset anything he does with his legs. He is what he is and has been since HS. Look at his senior year HS stats. Far from impressive. He is a prime example of an overrated HS QB by the scouting services based on his performance as a sophomore. Right now, he may be the best we have, so we have to run with it.
As for a poster or two who watched a bit of Browning's junior year Hudl film, I'd encourage you to watch the whole thing. It was one of the most impressive QB videos I've seen. His ball was thrown on time and accurately over and over and over. And oh by the way, he has 64 TDs to only 4 interceptions with 3,946 yards this year through 11 games, playing for the #5 ranked HS team in the country. Miles senior year.....he threw 14 TDs vs. 8 interceptions with 1,354 yards in 9 games. Apples and oranges
Miles won the Army All American MVP after his senior year. He won two state championships and threw 20 TD's and 2 INT's his junior year. He was basically as highly regarded as Browning with a lot of impressive offers. Williams and Lindquist were highly regarded as well.
To the OP, I don't think Miles will ever be great, but I can see a way he becomes a good QB with a full off season an Spring Ball. I don't think he is as bad as some here think he is. -
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jecornel said:
You should listen to the husky fan podcast... this topic is discussed.
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He isn't cerebral enough.
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So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?
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I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.MisterEm said:So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?
Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.
Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far -
Miles is showing some signs of improvement ... The question is where is his ceiling.
He's still very raw at the QB position and a lot of his problems are fundamental skills for a high level QB.
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Bullshit.Tequilla said:Miles is showing some signs of improvement ... The question is where is his ceiling.
He's still very raw at the QB position and a lot of his problems are fundamental skills for a high level QB.
A position change could serve him well
The game moves too fast for him.
From the snap, to the hand offs, to his release it is all rushed and sloppy.
I don't know how you can slow the game down for him.
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Where would he play? He's been playing QB since at least high school. You know he's not changing positions. The smart money is on him at least opening next season as the starter, especially if he plays well these last few games.Tequilla said:Miles is showing some signs of improvement ... The question is where is his ceiling.
He's still very raw at the QB position and a lot of his problems are fundamental skills for a high level QB.
A position change could serve him well
If he is still unsure and doesn't have confidence against Boise State to open next season, it's all over. I think it's possible that some of that has to do with Miles being uncomfortable and with limited knowledge of the playbook and system. An off season and Spring ball could improve those issues. -
This is fucked up. Brett Hundley is #1 in the nation at .721HuskyInAZ said:Throwing the ball on time and on target......
- Great QB - 80-90% of the time
- Good QB - 70-80% of the time
- Average QB - 60%-70% of the time
IMO, Cyler is an average QB, save for his ability to run. However, his inability to run the offense quickly and his crappy ball security issues offset anything he does with his legs. He is what he is and has been since HS. Look at his senior year HS stats. Far from impressive. He is a prime example of an overrated HS QB by the scouting services based on his performance as a sophomore. Right now, he may be the best we have, so we have to run with it.
As for a poster or two who watched a bit of Browning's junior year Hudl film, I'd encourage you to watch the whole thing. It was one of the most impressive QB videos I've seen. His ball was thrown on time and accurately over and over and over. And oh by the way, he has 64 TDs to only 4 interceptions with 3,946 yards this year through 11 games, playing for the #5 ranked HS team in the country. Miles senior year.....he threw 14 TDs vs. 8 interceptions with 1,354 yards in 9 games. Apples and oranges
Cyler Miles is #13 in the country at .659 ; 2 spots behind Marcus Marriota(.671) and 3 behind Connor Heisman(.673). Interesting npte, Miley is one spot ahead of the Bellermine kid Sark spurned, now at Colorado, Liufau(.658)
To count out a Sophomore getting this many Pac-12 snaps performing as well as he has in a new system with NO spring, who doesn't turn the ball over... who has had limited WR play, an unsettled running game is pretty KimFS if you ask me. There is something there with Miles Coaches can build on. Having a super Freshman along with Lindquist, Williams and Hyphen competing in hot pursuit through the winter, spring, summer then fall should help Peterman settle down the QB position by next season. -
If Miles is the guy next year this team is well and truly fucked. Plain and simple. Of course they may be WATF anyway but Miles @QB will cement the deal
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I don't agree with this notion anymore. Three weeks ago - certainly.skookum said:If Miles is the guy next year this team is well and truly fucked. Plain and simple. Of course they may be WATF anyway but Miles @QB will cement the deal
I am wagering on Pete and the new QB's lighting a fire under Cyler ' s ass from here on out.
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Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?RaceBannon said:
I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.MisterEm said:So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?
Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.
Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far -
If they do he missed the hand offHoustonHusky said:Don't think they make smart pills.
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I agree that at least in game situations, we haven't seen enough of Williams. to reach a full conclusion. On the other hand, you have to realize he couldn't beat out Lindquist to open the season and has never came in even when Cyler sucked. It's not like he showed anything in the ASU game either, although I know the weather made it very tough for a first start. It's not like Cyler has been very good, so if there a even a small chance Williams was as good or better, you have to assume he would come in.Doogles said:
Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?RaceBannon said:
I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.MisterEm said:So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?
Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.
Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far -
Cyler would need the polar opposite of cody picketts regression from junior to senior year (bad analogy but it popped up in my head for some reason), and I just don't see it.
Dude can't make a read, he can't decide when it's a good/bad idea to run the ball (I've seen so many first downs he could have jogged for while looking downfield at 1 receiver), the dude just doesn't have the composure for the moment.
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RoadDawg55 said:
I agree that at least in game situations, we haven't seen enough of Williams. to reach a full conclusion. On the other hand, you have to realize he couldn't beat out Lindquist to open the season and has never came in even when Cyler sucked. It's not like he showed anything in the ASU game either, although I know the weather made it very tough for a first start. It's not like Cyler has been very good, so if there a even a small chance Williams was as good or better, you have to assume he would come in.Doogles said:
Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?RaceBannon said:
I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.MisterEm said:So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?
Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.
Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far
Wrong on soooooo many levels. Talent is why Peters and Stringfellow had to go right? Williams was upset at being lured here then a surprise coaching change, and peterson didn't like his reaction.... fairly obvious if you followed it at the time. Peterson is the type who would have benched marshawn lynch and said how good turbin was.
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Some TBS insider, what you're hearing info?bigcc said:RoadDawg55 said:
I agree that at least in game situations, we haven't seen enough of Williams. to reach a full conclusion. On the other hand, you have to realize he couldn't beat out Lindquist to open the season and has never came in even when Cyler sucked. It's not like he showed anything in the ASU game either, although I know the weather made it very tough for a first start. It's not like Cyler has been very good, so if there a even a small chance Williams was as good or better, you have to assume he would come in.Doogles said:
Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?RaceBannon said:
I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.MisterEm said:So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?
Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.
Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far
Wrong on soooooo many levels. Talent is why Peters and Stringfellow had to go right? Williams was upset at being lured here then a surprise coaching change, and peterson didn't like his reaction.... fairly obvious if you followed it at the time. Peterson is the type who would have benched marshawn lynch and said how good turbin was.
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The unforced errors in particular are worrisome. He has some tools and has shown flashes of competence. Miles lacks the it factor , not a guy who gives you the feeling he can put the team on his shoulders and lead them in crunch time. Hopefully I am wrong.
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Miles has to quit smoking dope if he wants to improve.
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He'll be aight.
I put a reminder in my calendar for November 15 next year to bump this thread to beat my meat or take my lumps.
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What goes through Miley's head during a blitz?
