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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,858 Founders Club

    MisterEm said:

    So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?


    Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.

    I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.

    Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far
    Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?
  • RaccoonHarry
    RaccoonHarry Member Posts: 2,161

    Don't think they make smart pills.

    If they do he missed the hand off
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,553 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited November 2014
    Doogles said:

    MisterEm said:

    So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?


    Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.

    I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.

    Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far
    Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?
    I agree that at least in game situations, we haven't seen enough of Williams. to reach a full conclusion. On the other hand, you have to realize he couldn't beat out Lindquist to open the season and has never came in even when Cyler sucked. It's not like he showed anything in the ASU game either, although I know the weather made it very tough for a first start. It's not like Cyler has been very good, so if there a even a small chance Williams was as good or better, you have to assume he would come in.
  • bigcc
    bigcc Member Posts: 900
    Cyler would need the polar opposite of cody picketts regression from junior to senior year (bad analogy but it popped up in my head for some reason), and I just don't see it.

    Dude can't make a read, he can't decide when it's a good/bad idea to run the ball (I've seen so many first downs he could have jogged for while looking downfield at 1 receiver), the dude just doesn't have the composure for the moment.

    Lindquist on the other hand simply can't throw accurately.
  • bigcc
    bigcc Member Posts: 900
    edited November 2014

    Doogles said:

    MisterEm said:

    So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?


    Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.

    I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.

    Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far
    Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?
    I agree that at least in game situations, we haven't seen enough of Williams. to reach a full conclusion. On the other hand, you have to realize he couldn't beat out Lindquist to open the season and has never came in even when Cyler sucked. It's not like he showed anything in the ASU game either, although I know the weather made it very tough for a first start. It's not like Cyler has been very good, so if there a even a small chance Williams was as good or better, you have to assume he would come in.

    Wrong on soooooo many levels. Talent is why Peters and Stringfellow had to go right? Williams was upset at being lured here then a surprise coaching change, and peterson didn't like his reaction.... fairly obvious if you followed it at the time. Peterson is the type who would have benched marshawn lynch and said how good turbin was.
  • H_D
    H_D Member Posts: 6,098
    bigcc said:


    Doogles said:

    MisterEm said:

    So I guess the consensus here is Cyler is incapable of improving "game-speed" awareness after 10+ starts and a full suite of spring camps/practices? Did I get that right, RD, JE and Race?


    Either way it will be interesting to bump this bitch a year from now.

    I didn't say that. I just wonder why Miles gets game after game and yet everyone knows Williams can't do it.

    Miles improvement has been at glacial speed so far
    Exactly this. Williams starts 1 game in a monsoon and the team still had a chance till the end. How is he definitively not the guy yet Cyler keeps getting the pass for making glacial improvement?
    I agree that at least in game situations, we haven't seen enough of Williams. to reach a full conclusion. On the other hand, you have to realize he couldn't beat out Lindquist to open the season and has never came in even when Cyler sucked. It's not like he showed anything in the ASU game either, although I know the weather made it very tough for a first start. It's not like Cyler has been very good, so if there a even a small chance Williams was as good or better, you have to assume he would come in.

    Wrong on soooooo many levels. Talent is why Peters and Stringfellow had to go right? Williams was upset at being lured here then a surprise coaching change, and peterson didn't like his reaction.... fairly obvious if you followed it at the time. Peterson is the type who would have benched marshawn lynch and said how good turbin was.
    Some TBS insider, what you're hearing info?
  • skookum
    skookum Member Posts: 448
    The unforced errors in particular are worrisome. He has some tools and has shown flashes of competence. Miles lacks the it factor , not a guy who gives you the feeling he can put the team on his shoulders and lead them in crunch time. Hopefully I am wrong.
  • Mike_Honcho
    Mike_Honcho Member Posts: 214
    Miles has to quit smoking dope if he wants to improve.

    Being that he's blick, it is not likely therefore he is not the guy.
  • MisterEm
    MisterEm Member Posts: 6,685
    He'll be aight.

    I put a reminder in my calendar for November 15 next year to bump this thread to beat my meat or take my lumps.

    It will be interesting either way.
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    What goes through Miley's head during a blitz?

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