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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    If we like our no huddle offense we can keep it

    Can we get back to talking Xs and Os and Jimmies and Joes?
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    Using two RB's is an interesting concept that for whatever reason Sark doesn't use. I know IMALOSER loves to point out that Sankey was 3rd in carries but I want our team carries to go up.

    In the James years and even Slick Rick you had multiple guys getting carries to keep them fresh while you wear down the defense.

    With Sankey, Callier, Washington, possibly Taylor, possibly Cooper there is no reason that your back up RB's shouldn't get 8-10 touches a game.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Using two RB's is an interesting concept that for whatever reason Sark doesn't use. I know IMALOSER loves to point out that Sankey was 3rd in carries but I want our team carries to go up.

    In the James years and even Slick Rick you had multiple guys getting carries to keep them fresh while you wear down the defense.

    With Sankey, Callier, Washington, possibly Taylor, possibly Cooper there is no reason that your back up RB's shouldn't get 8-10 touches a game.

    I think platooning in RBs would be interesting. Do you think Sark will do it? I like the depth (baring injury)
  • IMALOSER_
    IMALOSER_ Member Posts: 158

    Using two RB's is an interesting concept that for whatever reason Sark doesn't use. I know IMALOSER loves to point out that Sankey was 3rd in carries but I want our team carries to go up.

    In the James years and even Slick Rick you had multiple guys getting carries to keep them fresh while you wear down the defense.

    With Sankey, Callier, Washington, possibly Taylor, possibly Cooper there is no reason that your back up RB's shouldn't get 8-10 touches a game.

    I think losing Callier was huge last year. There really wasn't anyone that stepped up as a second option. Taylor switched over from WR, but he had to learn the position on the fly. They started to use Taylor and Sankey together later in the year, but it's not the same as having a Callier, Cooper or Washington back there with them.

    I personally liked at the beginning of the year when they went to shotgun with Sankey and Callier both in. Puts pressure on the defense. They don't know which back will be running, which one will run swing to the flat and then you have ASJ and Williams to worry about. Having that fourth weapon in the game makes Sankey, ASJ and Williams even more dangerous. Then if we can get a speed WR to pressure deep it opens a lot of possibilities. Won't matter how fast or slow we run the offense.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited August 2013
    Stanford may have played great defense against Oregon last year, but the two years before that Stanford gave up 52 and 53 to Oregon. Stanford also gave up 48 to Arizona last year, so I'm not sure they are all that great of an example.

    I'm sure we will get shredded a couple of times against no huddle teams this year, so I get the sarcastic comments, but going against the no huddle everyday in practice should do nothing but help us.

    I will add that we don't have the players or depth on the DL to actually stop no huddle teams. All the teams that have given Oregon trouble have been teams with disruptive DL's, something we haven't and still don't have. Oregon runs out their entire 2nd string DL for series and there isn't even a noticeable drop off. If we run no huddle/hurry up the entire game, our D will get destroyed because we don't have the depth to rotate and keep guys fresh.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,039 Founders Club
    The scout team goes against the first team offense. The defense prepares for that weeks opponent against the scout team
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    IMALOSER_ said:

    Using two RB's is an interesting concept that for whatever reason Sark doesn't use. I know IMALOSER loves to point out that Sankey was 3rd in carries but I want our team carries to go up.

    In the James years and even Slick Rick you had multiple guys getting carries to keep them fresh while you wear down the defense.

    With Sankey, Callier, Washington, possibly Taylor, possibly Cooper there is no reason that your back up RB's shouldn't get 8-10 touches a game.

    I think losing Callier was huge last year. There really wasn't anyone that stepped up as a second option. Taylor switched over from WR, but he had to learn the position on the fly. They started to use Taylor and Sankey together later in the year, but it's not the same as having a Callier, Cooper or Washington back there with them.

    I personally liked at the beginning of the year when they went to shotgun with Sankey and Callier both in. Puts pressure on the defense. They don't know which back will be running, which one will run swing to the flat and then you have ASJ and Williams to worry about. Having that fourth weapon in the game makes Sankey, ASJ and Williams even more dangerous. Then if we can get a speed WR to pressure deep it opens a lot of possibilities. Won't matter how fast or slow we run the offense.
    What about the defense? I think if we can get pressure up the middle and some heat from the edge we will stop a lot of plays.
  • DeepSeaZ
    DeepSeaZ Member Posts: 3,901
    I think the new offense plays to UW's strength in personnel, or lack of personnel. Shit we definitely are not a smash mouth team. We, as fans, want to be but that isn't where we are. We can't show the D the play we are going to run, say Fuck You!, and jam the ball down their throats. (Thanks Sark/Coz. Can't either of those guys recruit OL? Fuck). Any who...our best bet is to run fast and keep defenses off guard. We need to pick the pace up and keep the D guessing. Keep the blitzes off the QB. Maybe force a 3 man front since we can't block 4 as it is. I'm not sure this is happening because it's hip. I think it's happening because there isn't a better choice.

    So UW has been unable to prepare their defense for Oregon because they don't run the offense and they aren't really going to run it this year but it will help prepare the defense.

    And yet Stanford plays smashmouth and beat Oregon

  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,551 Swaye's Wigwam

    The scout team goes against the first team offense. The defense prepares for that weeks opponent against the scout team

    I realize that, but playing against the no huddle for all of spring and fall camp should condition the defense to be more familiar with the no huddle. Hopefully, that training will help when we face no huddle teams, although I'm nor sure it will matter much because we still have a piss poor DL with no depth.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The scout team goes against the first team offense. The defense prepares for that weeks opponent against the scout team

    I realize that, but playing against the no huddle for all of spring and fall camp should condition the defense to be more familiar with the no huddle. Hopefully, that training will help when we face no huddle teams, although I'm nor sure it will matter much because we still have a piss poor DL with no depth.

    Do you think we will be at disadvantage when we play teams that huddle up and try to run fewer plays? Our guys will be used to an up tempo, but when a team like ASU starts taking 40 seconds between plays, that could be an issue.