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Is Williams real?

What I liked when I first saw him throw was he doesn't second guess himself like Cyler, he commits do what he is going to do. I don't know about his passes downfield or if this guy is not even in consideration, but I like him. Doubt he'll start over Cyler though.
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  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    He barked a bit immediately. The kid is good and was an actual winner in HS (Miles was the QB when his HS stopped their massive winning streak). He threw dimes, ran confident and fast... what's not to like? The kid is good.
  • Canard
    Canard Member Posts: 504
    You guys just thought your D was for real. Give it a few days and you'll see that this moment of excitement over the sub smacks of Price's debut as a sudden first time starter at Autzen.

    Keith went on to do zip, point, shit.
  • topdawgnc
    topdawgnc Member Posts: 7,839
    How is Williams 3rd on the depth chart?

    What does Peterman see we don't?
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Canard said:

    You guys just thought your D was for real. Give it a few days and you'll see that this moment of excitement over the sub smacks of Price's debut as a sudden first time starter at Autzen.

    Keith went on to do zip, point, shit.

    Keith Price is Joe Montana compared to what we have now
  • HuskyHalfBrain
    HuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311
    Canard said:

    You guys just thought your D was for real. Give it a few days and you'll see that this moment of excitement over the sub smacks of Price's debut as a sudden first time starter at Autzen.

    Keith went on to do zip, point, shit.

    float's got a point but sven's now in SC.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754
    topdawgnc said:

    How is Williams 3rd on the depth chart?

    What does Peterman see we don't?

    Turnovers in practice. He's said as much.
  • SevenEleven
    SevenEleven Member Posts: 318
    Nothing about this game will tell. Garbage time is more meaningless than preseason.

    Miley sucks, so sure go ahead and play him, but you should take absolutely nothing from anything tonight.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    The reason I would consider starting Williams doesn't have much to do with what Williams did tonight. He seems to have a good arm, good mobility, and decent pocket presence, but we know that beforehand.
    The reason is you can't get much worse than what miles has been this season
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Nothing about this game will tell. Garbage time is more meaningless than preseason.

    Miley sucks, so sure go ahead and play him, but you should take absolutely nothing from anything tonight.

    I don't really agree. I don't think garbage time is super important, but we've never seen Troy play in a game. His accuracy and quick mind already make him about 50,000 times better than the Viking or the Mile High Shitty.

  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    Miley can't throw. Fact. Oregon wasn't threatened over the top and our Ivy League slow RBs posed no threat. I say play Williams. At least he can challenge D's over the top or throw a bubble screen with some zip.
  • dhdawg
    dhdawg Member Posts: 13,326
    Unless we're actually going to use miles' mobility. What are we playing him for. He's not an FBS caliber passer, he just isn't
  • HuskyHalfBrain
    HuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311

    Nothing about this game will tell. Garbage time is more meaningless than preseason.

    Miley sucks, so sure go ahead and play him, but you should take absolutely nothing from anything tonight.

    I don't really agree. I don't think garbage time is super important, but we've never seen Troy play in a game. His accuracy and quick mind already make him about 50,000 times better than the Viking or the Mile High Shitty.

    Quick mind or not thinking thoroughly due to limited experience?

    If Troy still plays like he did next year, then I'm in.

    Sometimes inexperience helps because you really have not much to think about other than to play to your instincts.

    Then again, garbage time.

    All points are muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,462 Founders Club

    What I liked when I first saw him throw was he doesn't second guess himself like Cyler, he commits do what he is going to do. I don't know about his passes downfield or if this guy is not even in consideration, but I like him. Doubt he'll start over Cyler though.

    I think the best thing to happen to Cyler was throwing the INT. After that he stood in there with poise and started slinging the ball around with confidence and purpose.

    Obviously the fumble didn't help.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Nothing about this game will tell. Garbage time is more meaningless than preseason.

    Miley sucks, so sure go ahead and play him, but you should take absolutely nothing from anything tonight.

    I don't really agree. I don't think garbage time is super important, but we've never seen Troy play in a game. His accuracy and quick mind already make him about 50,000 times better than the Viking or the Mile High Shitty.

    Quick mind or not thinking thoroughly due to limited experience?

    If Troy still plays like he did next year, then I'm in.

    Sometimes inexperience helps because you really have not much to think about other than to play to your instincts.

    Then again, garbage time.

    All points are muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
    That's fair. You may be right, I may be crazy. But is there anything you've seen out of John Denver that makes you want more given what we saw from Williams tonight? Notice I'm not advocating White Power. White Power is no better than "Dope Power" Miles.
  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,625 Standard Supporter
    Canard said:

    You guys just thought your D was for real. Give it a few days and you'll see that this moment of excitement over the sub smacks of Price's debut as a sudden first time starter at Autzen.

    Keith went on to do zip, point, shit.

    I knew this Quook idiot would come out of the woodwork
  • HuskyHalfBrain
    HuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311

    Nothing about this game will tell. Garbage time is more meaningless than preseason.

    Miley sucks, so sure go ahead and play him, but you should take absolutely nothing from anything tonight.

    I don't really agree. I don't think garbage time is super important, but we've never seen Troy play in a game. His accuracy and quick mind already make him about 50,000 times better than the Viking or the Mile High Shitty.

    Quick mind or not thinking thoroughly due to limited experience?

    If Troy still plays like he did next year, then I'm in.

    Sometimes inexperience helps because you really have not much to think about other than to play to your instincts.

    Then again, garbage time.

    All points are muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
    That's fair. You may be right, I may be crazy. But is there anything you've seen out of John Denver that makes you want more given what we saw from Williams tonight? Notice I'm not advocating White Power. White Power is no better than "Dope Power" Miles.
    Sure, dope power's got a cute name that I would like to use here often for the next few more years.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Nothing about this game will tell. Garbage time is more meaningless than preseason.

    Miley sucks, so sure go ahead and play him, but you should take absolutely nothing from anything tonight.

    I don't really agree. I don't think garbage time is super important, but we've never seen Troy play in a game. His accuracy and quick mind already make him about 50,000 times better than the Viking or the Mile High Shitty.

    Quick mind or not thinking thoroughly due to limited experience?

    If Troy still plays like he did next year, then I'm in.

    Sometimes inexperience helps because you really have not much to think about other than to play to your instincts.

    Then again, garbage time.

    All points are muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
    That's fair. You may be right, I may be crazy. But is there anything you've seen out of John Denver that makes you want more given what we saw from Williams tonight? Notice I'm not advocating White Power. White Power is no better than "Dope Power" Miles.
    Sure, dope power's got a cute name that I would like to use here often for the next few more years.
    Dope Power looks like fucking Casey Paus. How people don't see this, I will never understand.
  • Muttzen
    Muttzen Member Posts: 1,015
    Keith price looked really good before our crap o-line got him banged up.

    I don't see any redeeming qualities in cyler, other than he doesn't throw interceptions because we never let him throw past the LoS.
  • HuskyHalfBrain
    HuskyHalfBrain Member Posts: 1,311
    edited October 2014

    Nothing about this game will tell. Garbage time is more meaningless than preseason.

    Miley sucks, so sure go ahead and play him, but you should take absolutely nothing from anything tonight.

    I don't really agree. I don't think garbage time is super important, but we've never seen Troy play in a game. His accuracy and quick mind already make him about 50,000 times better than the Viking or the Mile High Shitty.

    Quick mind or not thinking thoroughly due to limited experience?

    If Troy still plays like he did next year, then I'm in.

    Sometimes inexperience helps because you really have not much to think about other than to play to your instincts.

    Then again, garbage time.

    All points are muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
    That's fair. You may be right, I may be crazy. But is there anything you've seen out of John Denver that makes you want more given what we saw from Williams tonight? Notice I'm not advocating White Power. White Power is no better than "Dope Power" Miles.
    Sure, dope power's got a cute name that I would like to use here often for the next few more years.
    Dope Power looks like fucking Casey Paus. How people don't see this, I will never understand.
    We don't have a Tui, not even Lockner.

    So we might have us a Price but for sure Paus and Fouch -- we fucked.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    Williams ha a good dive or two. At one point, so did Miles. He had a cross field throw to Coleman and Mickens dropped a TD. If that was all we saw, we would say Miles was much improved.

    Maybe Williams is the guy, Miles certainly isn't owning the job, but LIPO. Don't go full doog and proclaim Williams the savior because of a garbage time series against Oregon's back ups. It can't hurt to give him a shot though.

    You're going to have to work pretty hard for this point. Miles sucks and it's obvious. You WTFed my post saying we'd get boat-raced in this game and acted like Cyler was playing pretty well so far. I mean, I don't GAS about any of this and I'm not trying to be a dickface, but you're going to have to let go of your Mile-dooging at some point. Miles looked better, but better compared to a brain-locked piece of dog shit.

    Sure it was in garbage time, but Williams immediately looked like he was playing the game at a different mental speed than Dope Power. Is he the savior? I don't know, but he looked good.

    He should start against ASU and we'll all get a good look at Young Black Power and then we can decide. But it's obvious if you aren't invested that Miley Cyrus sucks cocks. Lundquist sucks cocks too. YBP was the first guy to throw a ball that was quick, accurate and led to YAC. He was the first QB to make a serious play with his legs (yeah, it was in garbage time, but Miley didn't make plays against Ga State).

    I mean, I may be totally wrong about Coleman--but there's no fucking way on earth Miley is any good. Williams needs some room to show what he can do.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    Williams ha a good dive or two. At one point, so did Miles. He had a cross field throw to Coleman and Mickens dropped a TD. If that was all we saw, we would say Miles was much improved.

    Maybe Williams is the guy, Miles certainly isn't owning the job, but LIPO. Don't go full doog and proclaim Williams the savior because of a garbage time series against Oregon's back ups. It can't hurt to give him a shot though.

    Right. And re: the D, Doog legend Evan Hudson was demo'd. We had 2 legit DL. Oregon won by wearing the thin D down and crushing both Hudsons. Our roster is so flawed.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137
    I don't think Miles has been playing well. Beating on him after an easy win vs Cal is over the top. You are reactionary. The first few drives ou were saying Miles looked good. I hope Williams is the guy, but garbage time means nothing. I already said it can't hurt to give him a chance.

    We haven't had a QB play well against Oregon since Locker in 2007. That's a simple fact.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    I don't think Miles has been playing well. Beating on him after an easy win vs Cal is over the top. You are reactionary. The first few drives ou were saying Miles looked good. I hope Williams is the guy, but garbage time means nothing. I already said it can't hurt to give him a chance.

    We haven't had a QB play well against Oregon since Locker in 2007. That's a simple fact.

    Wait? What? I have been saying he sucks since day 1. How is that reactionary? I'm consistent. He sucked against Cal even though his stats were kinda good (if you don't care about YPA or QBR), stats are for losers and I'm just staying consistent. It's not fucking over the top, it's called calling spades spades (as you said in another thread, it's all about the blicks, etc.).

    And as to point 2, he looked a lot fucking better... then he went back to brain lock and looked like he was playing Stanford again. I'm willing to be convinced and try to keep an open mind, but he played like he was high in the second half.

    Williams came in and flashed immediately. Accurate, quick, playmaking, in control, etc. It was garbage time, fine... but, if he was John Elway it would still be garbage time and that wouldn't preclude him from being good just because he did good in garbage time.

    I'm saying it was easy to see he was better than Miles immediately.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    edited October 2014
    This team cannot be saved by a change in QB. However, Miles is not a threat to gameplan against for the top 6 teams. Maybe with Williams stronger arm, the WRs will have a better chance at making a play...assuming they catch the ball.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,137

    I don't think Miles has been playing well. Beating on him after an easy win vs Cal is over the top. You are reactionary. The first few drives ou were saying Miles looked good. I hope Williams is the guy, but garbage time means nothing. I already said it can't hurt to give him a chance.

    We haven't had a QB play well against Oregon since Locker in 2007. That's a simple fact.

    Wait? What? I have been saying he sucks since day 1. How is that reactionary? I'm consistent. He sucked against Cal even though his stats were kinda good (if you don't care about YPA or QBR), stats are for losers and I'm just staying consistent. It's not fucking over the top, it's called calling spades spades (as you said in another thread, it's all about the blicks, etc.).

    And as to point 2, he looked a lot fucking better... then he went back to brain lock and looked like he was playing Stanford again. I'm willing to be convinced and try to keep an open mind, but he played like he was high in the second half.

    Williams came in and flashed immediately. Accurate, quick, playmaking, in control, etc. It was garbage time, fine... but, if he was John Elway it would still be garbage time and that wouldn't preclude him from being good just because he did good in garbage time.

    I'm saying it was easy to see he was better than Miles immediately.
    You have been consistent with Miles. I stand corrected. I'm fine with Troy getting a shot. We will see how he does against a real defense when the pressure is on. I'm not going to fully buy a guy that can't beat out Lidquist until I see it.
  • Dennis_DeYoung
    Dennis_DeYoung Member Posts: 14,754

    I don't think Miles has been playing well. Beating on him after an easy win vs Cal is over the top. You are reactionary. The first few drives ou were saying Miles looked good. I hope Williams is the guy, but garbage time means nothing. I already said it can't hurt to give him a chance.

    We haven't had a QB play well against Oregon since Locker in 2007. That's a simple fact.

    Wait? What? I have been saying he sucks since day 1. How is that reactionary? I'm consistent. He sucked against Cal even though his stats were kinda good (if you don't care about YPA or QBR), stats are for losers and I'm just staying consistent. It's not fucking over the top, it's called calling spades spades (as you said in another thread, it's all about the blicks, etc.).

    And as to point 2, he looked a lot fucking better... then he went back to brain lock and looked like he was playing Stanford again. I'm willing to be convinced and try to keep an open mind, but he played like he was high in the second half.

    Williams came in and flashed immediately. Accurate, quick, playmaking, in control, etc. It was garbage time, fine... but, if he was John Elway it would still be garbage time and that wouldn't preclude him from being good just because he did good in garbage time.

    I'm saying it was easy to see he was better than Miles immediately.
    You have been consistent with Miles. I stand corrected. I'm fine with Troy getting a shot. We will see how he does against a real defense when the pressure is on. I'm not going to fully buy a guy that can't beat out Lidquist until I see it.
    Fair poont.

    "Lidquist" - isn't lid a slang word for marijuana or something? I'm not a weed guy so I don't know, but it seems like it is.