Kikahahahaha in at #4 of 25
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i thought this was a pac-12 ranking, until I clicked to see #5 and it was Mr Crab Stealer himself Jameis Winston.
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Time Bandits ... a classic 80's flic ...SpoonieLuv said:
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Am I just a doog or should Shaq be in that list?
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i wonder the same thing, I believe he very quietly leads the nation in defensive TDs at 4. I can't find the stats anywhere though.topdawgnc said:Am I just a doog or should Shaq be in that list?
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According to this ESPN Pac-12 blog post (yes, ESPN is my source) Shaq has more defensive touchdowns than all but one team in college football. So yes, he should definitely be on this list.brchco12 said:
i wonder the same thing, I believe he very quietly leads the nation in defensive TDs at 4. I can't find the stats anywhere though.topdawgnc said:Am I just a doog or should Shaq be in that list?
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When you add his offensive touchdown he's one of the leading scorers at any position minus qb
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he's been worth every pemmy
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Kikaha without a doubt is our best player. He was one of our best defensive players as a true freshman when he went by Jamora.
The casual fan will think Shaq is the best defensive player since he gets the scores but Kikaha (and possibly Shelton has a much bigger impact on the game than him.
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This is the kind of defensive abundance we haven't got the fortune to deal with in a long time.CuntWaffle said:Kikaha without a doubt is our best player. He was one of our best defensive players as a true freshman when he went by Jamora.
The casual fan will think Shaq is the best defensive player since he gets the scores but Kikaha (and possibly Shelton has a much bigger impact on the game than him.
No disrespect to Shaq though he is a monster in his own right. This defense is fun to watch. -
So can the unbanned tell me how many times Kim has pointed out that Petersen is doing it with Sark's players...
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Our D is so good that we barely even talk about Peters, one of the best lockdown corners in the nation. All of these guys have always been good, but I personally think they have all taken huge steps this year. Amazing what getting coached up can do. Who knew?
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Shelton > Kikaha > Shaq > PetersCuntWaffle said:Kikaha without a doubt is our best player. He was one of our best defensive players as a true freshman when he went by Jamora.
The casual fan will think Shaq is the best defensive player since he gets the scores but Kikaha (and possibly Shelton has a much bigger impact on the game than him.
No disrespect to Shaq though he is a monster in his own right. This defense is fun to watch.
All four are fucking studs.
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I remember (sort of) like a month ago saying no way they are all first rounders, or even close. Not so sure anymore. Depending on team needs I could certainly see Kikaha, Shelton, and Peters all go if they do well at the combine, and Shaq is right there as well (LBers aren't at the premium shutdown corners and DL are which is all the would hold him back imo). Testament to getting coached up and put in the position to succeed.dnc said:
Shelton > Kikaha > Shaq > PetersCuntWaffle said:Kikaha without a doubt is our best player. He was one of our best defensive players as a true freshman when he went by Jamora.
The casual fan will think Shaq is the best defensive player since he gets the scores but Kikaha (and possibly Shelton has a much bigger impact on the game than him.
No disrespect to Shaq though he is a monster in his own right. This defense is fun to watch.
All four are fucking studs. -
Shit, I was saying only Peters was a first rounder in the offseason. The improvement by the other three, particularly Shelton and Shaq, is eye opening.Swaye said:
I remember (sort of) like a month ago saying no way they are all first rounders, or even close. Not so sure anymore. Depending on team needs I could certainly see Kikaha, Shelton, and Peters all go if they do well at the combine, and Shaq is right there as well (LBers aren't at the premium shutdown corners and DL are which is all the would hold him back imo). Testament to getting coached up and put in the position to succeed.dnc said:
Shelton > Kikaha > Shaq > PetersCuntWaffle said:Kikaha without a doubt is our best player. He was one of our best defensive players as a true freshman when he went by Jamora.
The casual fan will think Shaq is the best defensive player since he gets the scores but Kikaha (and possibly Shelton has a much bigger impact on the game than him.
No disrespect to Shaq though he is a monster in his own right. This defense is fun to watch.
All four are fucking studs.
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That does not go unnoticed by 2 start MWC OKG recruits looking for a church schoolSwaye said:
I remember (sort of) like a month ago saying no way they are all first rounders, or even close. Not so sure anymore. Depending on team needs I could certainly see Kikaha, Shelton, and Peters all go if they do well at the combine, and Shaq is right there as well (LBers aren't at the premium shutdown corners and DL are which is all the would hold him back imo). Testament to getting coached up and put in the position to succeed.dnc said:
Shelton > Kikaha > Shaq > PetersCuntWaffle said:Kikaha without a doubt is our best player. He was one of our best defensive players as a true freshman when he went by Jamora.
The casual fan will think Shaq is the best defensive player since he gets the scores but Kikaha (and possibly Shelton has a much bigger impact on the game than him.
No disrespect to Shaq though he is a monster in his own right. This defense is fun to watch.
All four are fucking studs. -
I know your being sarkastic, but that's actually from the movie Willow.topdawgnc said:
Time Bandits ... a classic 80's flic ...SpoonieLuv said: -
Agree. Even when you drink as much as I do, it is plainly obvious that Shaq and Shelton have finally gotten some serious coaching. The talent has always been there, it was coaching that had Shelton taking plays off and kept Shaq so inconsistent. The progress is amazing. Fucking amazing.dnc said:
Shit, I was saying only Peters was a first rounder in the offseason. The improvement by the other three, particularly Shelton and Shaq, is eye opening.Swaye said:
I remember (sort of) like a month ago saying no way they are all first rounders, or even close. Not so sure anymore. Depending on team needs I could certainly see Kikaha, Shelton, and Peters all go if they do well at the combine, and Shaq is right there as well (LBers aren't at the premium shutdown corners and DL are which is all the would hold him back imo). Testament to getting coached up and put in the position to succeed.dnc said:
Shelton > Kikaha > Shaq > PetersCuntWaffle said:Kikaha without a doubt is our best player. He was one of our best defensive players as a true freshman when he went by Jamora.
The casual fan will think Shaq is the best defensive player since he gets the scores but Kikaha (and possibly Shelton has a much bigger impact on the game than him.
No disrespect to Shaq though he is a monster in his own right. This defense is fun to watch.
All four are fucking studs. -
Shelton is easily the most improved player on the team. It's one of the biggest year to year improvements I have ever seen. Before this season he only had 2.5 sacks in his career. He wasn't a pass rusher at all. I continuously harped on the podcast that when our DE's got pressure, QB's could step up in the pocket. An interior pass rush was solely needed. I thought what we saw out of Shelton was what he would be. A solid, run stuffing DT.
This year he has 7 sacks already. He didn't get a sack against Cal or Stanford, but there were multiple plays he got pressure. He's also the leading tackler on the team with 49. He's having a monster season. -
And Shelton distorting the pocket has directly helped Kikaha with his monster 10 sacks. So yeah, from an almost non existant interior disruptor/pass rusher who took every third play off to an absolute terror pushing up the middle who is on fire 110 % of the time. Love it.RoadDawg55 said:Shelton is easily the most improved player on the team. It's one of the biggest year to year improvements I have ever seen. Before this season he only had 2.5 sacks in his career. He wasn't a pass rusher at all. I continuously harped on the podcast that when our DE's got pressure, QB's could step up in the pocket. An interior pass rush was solely needed. I thought what we saw out of Shelton was what he would be. A solid, run stuffing DT.
This year he has 7 sacks already. He didn't get a sack against Cal or Stanford, but there were multiple plays he got pressure. He's also the leading tackler on the team with 49. He's having a monster season. -
Gotta hand it to @passion, it's been a damn good year for the formula.Swaye said:
And Shelton distorting the pocket has directly helped Kikaha with his monster 10 sacks. So yeah, from an almost non existant interior disruptor/pass rusher who took every third play off to an absolute terror pushing up the middle who is on fire 110 % of the time. Love it.RoadDawg55 said:Shelton is easily the most improved player on the team. It's one of the biggest year to year improvements I have ever seen. Before this season he only had 2.5 sacks in his career. He wasn't a pass rusher at all. I continuously harped on the podcast that when our DE's got pressure, QB's could step up in the pocket. An interior pass rush was solely needed. I thought what we saw out of Shelton was what he would be. A solid, run stuffing DT.
This year he has 7 sacks already. He didn't get a sack against Cal or Stanford, but there were multiple plays he got pressure. He's also the leading tackler on the team with 49. He's having a monster season.
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80's superiority guy.ThomasFremont said:
I know your being sarkastic, but that's actually from the movie Willow.topdawgnc said:
Time Bandits ... a classic 80's flic ...SpoonieLuv said: -
Gonna need some discipline in the two hole this week. Mariotta self tackled himself against Arizona on a run that could have gone 80 up the gut for a TD and changed that game
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Shelton > Peters > Kikaha > Thompson.
In the end (that's what she said!!!!1!!), Kikaha has more noticeable plays, but Peters is a fucking stud. He gets ticky-tack PIs because he's awesome, but they just never throw his way because when they do he makes plays on the ball or the receiver. One of my favorite threads on another site was, after his freshman year, when he got burned on a double move the diagnosis that he was... wait for it... good, except for he had trouble with double moves.
@RoadDawg55 covered Shelton.
Kikaha is a menace.
Thompson is a super play-maker, but probably not quite as consistent as he should be. He's improved a metric fuck tonne though and I assume by the Apple Cup, he will be consistent and dominant (if he continues this trajectory).
All 4 are legit All-American candidates. That's pretty impressive.
I bleat for Pete and I'm dooging so hard that it has immediately occurred to me that next week all of them will seem like they suck after getting trounced by Oregon.
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Same. UW has the better team (and coach) sans Mariota. He's all that is holding Oregon from a .500 season.RaceBannon said:Gonna need some discipline in the two hole this week. Mariotta self tackled himself against Arizona on a run that could have gone 80 up the gut for a TD and changed that game
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For Oregon, the Formula is different. Stanford, and I noticed Arizona doing it to, plays hard at the line with the d-linemen keeping separation but not penetration. They play laterally and keep all the play fakes in front of them. Chip was often happy to have guys blowing blindly upfield and scheme around it. Not a huge secret, but the key has been to have the defensive linemen physically capable of playing laterally without getting blown up. It's not easy to do.dnc said:
Gotta hand it to @passion, it's been a damn good year for the formula.Swaye said:
And Shelton distorting the pocket has directly helped Kikaha with his monster 10 sacks. So yeah, from an almost non existant interior disruptor/pass rusher who took every third play off to an absolute terror pushing up the middle who is on fire 110 % of the time. Love it.RoadDawg55 said:Shelton is easily the most improved player on the team. It's one of the biggest year to year improvements I have ever seen. Before this season he only had 2.5 sacks in his career. He wasn't a pass rusher at all. I continuously harped on the podcast that when our DE's got pressure, QB's could step up in the pocket. An interior pass rush was solely needed. I thought what we saw out of Shelton was what he would be. A solid, run stuffing DT.
This year he has 7 sacks already. He didn't get a sack against Cal or Stanford, but there were multiple plays he got pressure. He's also the leading tackler on the team with 49. He's having a monster season. -
Good point. The Locker year that the game was tied at 35 before UO still won by 20 plus had a play where Husky Stadium rose as one as the Duck QB got crushed. Of course he no longer had the ballGrundleStiltzkin said:
For Oregon, the Formula is different. Stanford, and I noticed Arizona doing it to, plays hard at the line with the d-linemen keeping separation but not penetration. They play laterally and keep all the play fakes in front of them. Chip was often happy to have guys blowing blindly upfield and scheme around it. Not a huge secret, but the key has been to have the defensive linemen physically capable of playing laterally without getting blown up. It's not easy to do.dnc said:
Gotta hand it to @passion, it's been a damn good year for the formula.Swaye said:
And Shelton distorting the pocket has directly helped Kikaha with his monster 10 sacks. So yeah, from an almost non existant interior disruptor/pass rusher who took every third play off to an absolute terror pushing up the middle who is on fire 110 % of the time. Love it.RoadDawg55 said:Shelton is easily the most improved player on the team. It's one of the biggest year to year improvements I have ever seen. Before this season he only had 2.5 sacks in his career. He wasn't a pass rusher at all. I continuously harped on the podcast that when our DE's got pressure, QB's could step up in the pocket. An interior pass rush was solely needed. I thought what we saw out of Shelton was what he would be. A solid, run stuffing DT.
This year he has 7 sacks already. He didn't get a sack against Cal or Stanford, but there were multiple plays he got pressure. He's also the leading tackler on the team with 49. He's having a monster season.
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I also know my midgets B-)topdawgnc said:
80's superiority guy.ThomasFremont said:
I know your being sarkastic, but that's actually from the movie Willow.topdawgnc said:
Time Bandits ... a classic 80's flic ...SpoonieLuv said: -
@AZDuck- Correct me where I am wrong. Oregon's OL is bad. WR's are young, but talented. They probably rank somewhere in the middle compared to the rest of the Pac 12. Very good RB's.
On defense, mediocre DL. Bad LB's. A pretty good secondary, but substantially worse than last year's. Pellum has been no better than Allioti.
Without Mariota, you lose to Michigan State, you likely lose to WSU, and you lost to Arizona with him. Helfrich sucks and Oregon would be .500 without him. The rest of your team isn't very good like it has been the past 6 years and you no longer have a great head coach.
