They are
Neither side can gain territory in big chunks. Ukraine is not getting back the lost land. Russia has mined, dragons teethed, and sighted in every square inch of that shit. It is suicide to try.
Russia can barely go anywhere in Ukraine even with a massive manpower advantage.
Let Russia keep Mariupol, which is the only halfway decent city they captured, the other towns, and call it a day. I don't see any reality where Ukraine takes the lost land back by force.
Russia is weak because they have only slowly gained territory over the last 3 years. A stronger Russia would have done it faster.
Suck Russia off harder, yeesh.
Yes, they are weak because they have a worn and outdated military theory that they've used for centuries. It's Russian tradition. Their military structure is completely broken and orderless, but that really doesn't matter when you use sheer force on an enemy that can't withstand that force, and you adapt on the battlefield. That's the whole idea, and they have. This is what they do.
They are also weak because Ukraine stood up with the biggest citizen resistance you'll ever see, and the West has substantially backed them with mothballs.
It's not enough, and it won't be enough. Everything is going according to plan for Dad Vlad.
Just curious, have you seen 20 Days in Mariupol?
Ukraine will get their territory back. It might be 1-20 years, but it'll happen. The West could help do it in weeks and tell Russia to fuck off, right now, save a lot of trouble, and Vlad wouldn't do a goddamn thing about it besides kill himself.
Ern, what if the Ukrainian people want to make a deal and end this?
Ukraine is the most corrupt country on the planet. The only reason we are helping is because that is where they launder money and run pedo hangouts for the rich and powerful. They also had the biolabs that were recently reported to have assisted in creating Covid19. This is the left's ultimate playground and Joe and the rest of the dems/RINO's are up to their necks in crime.
While paying the Russians back for Vietnam etc. is fun it's not worth the treasure and blood and Ukraine will just go back to the criminals.
The left created the current Ukraine. Obama overthrew the previous admin so they could rob it and us blind and diddle kids.
We can assume the Ukrainian people want this to end because the little dictator canceled the elections. He knew he was going to lose
Democracy in action
The military aged men fleeing or being pulled into vans is a tell. Ern demands they run through the minefields towards the trenches with no air cover.
Are You for us troops in Ukraine? Because that's how they get the land back...
We’ve always been at war with Eurasia.
That’s where the oil and minerals are at.
I think it actually helps Trump.
Maybe not to end things day 1 but it actually improves his overall positional leverage while he can't be blamed for escalation.
Supposedly a Mid East ceasefire has been agreed to. A cynic could argue that Benny only waited to agree to that until after Trump got elected. Or Trump being elected got the Arabs to cave to terms. We shall see.
Either way, as @hhusky said, anything that happens after Trump’s election is Trump’s fault.
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Great sub. You'd fit right in if I wasn't lazy.
I talked yesterday about how "ground troops" weren't needed. I'm sure you didn't read or comprehend that.
You have a bastardized conception of what war entails. It's very Russian, strangely enough.
Tell me how you know nothing without telling me you know nothing.
I don't speak in hypotheticals that have no basis in reality, Bobby. That would be a waste of time.
You should stick to Milton Friedman cocksucking and leave Russia and Ukraine to me, unless you legitimately want to understand the history and the current dynamics. In that case, DM me. There's no purpose in detailing anything or sharing resources in this bitch. I've tried. I could be a Rhodes Scholar, Nobel Winner, and Putin would still get deepthroated. @DucksFC is 110% correct about everything he says about this motherfucker. An Oregon Duck is telling you how it is, and that's a shame. It's a damn shame.
Bust out the Jergens, fags. This is hot.
If you have air support you have ground troops (special opps)... do you support that?
Have you ever tried to explore why Ukraine was a corrupt country after the breakup of the USSR, and how they've been trying desperately to democratize and break free from Russia's boot and reign in Russian influence and corruption for 30 years, including a couple color revolutions, especially in the last 10? Or is a male physique coach/political commentator on X your source?
Don't answer that. We already know.
I would absolutely support NATO military in Ukraine. I thought I made that clear already.
The only American ground troops that would be fighting are special ops, you got that right.
I legit have 5 deep level special ops marine buddies, every single one voted for Kamala, and they would love nothing more than to spill Russian blood. Iraqis and Afghanis were boring. This is no joke. They would kill Trump and Putin with one bullet if they had the chance.
You don't get it.
Can't speak for army, Navy, air force though. All I know is marines, on a personal level.
Shouldn't have fucked around with Mad Dog. Shouldn't have sucked Putin's cock. Actions have consequences.
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Nobody uses more words to say nothing than Ern
Still can’t find the quotes where Putin is deep throated. There are Zelensky ones though.
Anything anti-MIC is deep throating Putin.
There is no evidence of a US military industrial complex and if there was the support is minimal and doesn't really include any important US politicians. Ukrainians dying for Raytheon is the moral thing and every American should be proud.
So you are a neo con.... war monger.... why should we be in Ukraine?
Ern’s blood thirst really came out strong last night after a few white claws.
I’d be willing to sponsor his plane ride to Kiev so he can go larping and kill some Russians and save democracy.
I’d also throw in a nice bonus if we can get a picture of the HH refrigerator magnet attached to a blown up Russian tank.
"They would kill trump and Putin with one bullet if they had the chance."
Your boys missed.
The only people that do not want this war to end reside in congress and this administration. They're getting kickbacks from everyone including the tax money.
People like Fern want this to continue because those same people tell them it will end DemOcRacY!
