All the trumpeting about UW and it’s 19-game home win streak fails to account for most of that coming via DeBoer-coached teams and the fact that this years home schedule is downy soft.
If you aren't screaming that win streak into every ear in college football while ignoring the opponent record then you aren't a serious AD.
Oregon couldn't shut the fuck up about their home win streak despite all the pure dreck that came through that place from 2019 onward, until the UW game in 2022.
Oregon had losses to Oregon State, Cal, Utah, and Stanford on the road just a year or two prior while they were hyping up their home win streak. Not to mention getting skull-fucked on a neutral site by Georgia in the same year.
Like I said, it's either one extreme or the other.
I created the LIPO acronym for a reason. Fisch may or may not be the guy. But no coach was walking in here this year and doing much better with this roster.
I projected 8-4 before the season, and quite honestly this team should be 7-3 right now. WSU and Rutgers were bad and doesn't bode well for his future as coach.
On the other hand, the team looks impressive at home. Michigan and USC aren't amazing, but those were big games to win that he absolutely had to win, and he did. There is some talent on the roster that he brought in. The lines are a disaster and need big help, that was going to be the case no matter who UW hired.
Mucking up the board with a bunch of coulda shoulda about DeBoer isn't really my style. I am of the opinion he didn't want to be here and viewed this place as a tier 2 team behind the blue bloods of the industry. He wasn't going to stay no matter what, so I'm more interested in seeing what UW does moving forward, and how Fisch does in his rebuild, then poasting over and over again about DeBoer and the university budget for DeBoer.
I hope Fisch is the right answer and that UW is in the playoffs in year 3. If he overachieves and does that in year 2, awesome, but I doubt it will happen. Three years is a reasonable amount of time to give a head coach. Petersen needed three years.
DeBoer is an outlier and cannot be the expectation for every new coach. It was the perfect storm of a lot of factors.
Let's keep the roster in mind. Petersen set the table for Lake with his 2019 and 2020 classes yet Lake utterly screwed it up so DeBoer came in, added a few pieces (Penix, DJ, Mohammed) and went on an epic two-year run. The 2021 and 2022 classes were disasters so the 2024 squad was crushed when much remaining talent left after DeBoer did (Brailsford, Kalepo, Mohammed, Buelow, Bernard, Cuevas, Powell, Turner, and Mack). Of those 8 guys who left, 7 or 8 of them were already starters or were going to be in 2024).
This isn't to excuse the staff for the own goals (speed option against WSU with Rogers) and sloppy play (special teams particularly) but it does provide context on the 2024 season.
With that said, Fisch is probably not the guy to get UW back to the playoffs but he and his staff are at least much better recruiters than the previous staff. The ideal scenario is probably that he wins enough in 2025 or 2026 and heads off to the NFL.
UW was lucky to hire DeBoer. Cohen, who most here hate, made the hire of a lifetime. The smart money here, myself and you included, liked him a LOT before he even coached a game.
Luckily for UW, Covid + NIL + relaxed transfer rules equaled a reunion with a big Penix gunslinger. Not an advantage any other 1st year UW coaches have had.
Add in legit Petersen upperclassmen and the rest is history.
Not a scenario that often plays out. Add in the fallout after the wheels came off the bus when DeBoer left the way he did, and honestly it could've been a lot worse than what it is now. UW made the best of a very bad situation. Whether the new guy gets back to competing for titles remains to be seen. It wasn't going to be year 1.
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A Las Vegas bowl equals a victory imo
UW Loses at Home Friday Vs. UCLA
quite easily
Good thing we've never lost to an inferior UCLA team costing us the shot at something in the posteason. We'll be fine.
All the trumpeting about UW and it’s 19-game home win streak fails to account for most of that coming via DeBoer-coached teams and the fact that this years home schedule is downy soft.
Butt still
If you aren't screaming that win streak into every ear in college football while ignoring the opponent record then you aren't a serious AD.
Oregon couldn't shut the fuck up about their home win streak despite all the pure dreck that came through that place from 2019 onward, until the UW game in 2022.
pretty hollow when you can’t win anywhere else
And you still predicted losses to Michigan and USC
This place is fucking AIDS and so is the football team
People either think UW should be 14-0, or 0-14.
Mediocrity causing short circuits
Oregon had losses to Oregon State, Cal, Utah, and Stanford on the road just a year or two prior while they were hyping up their home win streak. Not to mention getting skull-fucked on a neutral site by Georgia in the same year.
You gave it aids
Kim beckons
No, you crying about DeBoer greatly contributed to the HIV.
Crying. Right
Keep supporting dumbfucks
Fisch is awesome
Like I said, it's either one extreme or the other.
I created the LIPO acronym for a reason. Fisch may or may not be the guy. But no coach was walking in here this year and doing much better with this roster.
I projected 8-4 before the season, and quite honestly this team should be 7-3 right now. WSU and Rutgers were bad and doesn't bode well for his future as coach.
On the other hand, the team looks impressive at home. Michigan and USC aren't amazing, but those were big games to win that he absolutely had to win, and he did. There is some talent on the roster that he brought in. The lines are a disaster and need big help, that was going to be the case no matter who UW hired.
Mucking up the board with a bunch of coulda shoulda about DeBoer isn't really my style. I am of the opinion he didn't want to be here and viewed this place as a tier 2 team behind the blue bloods of the industry. He wasn't going to stay no matter what, so I'm more interested in seeing what UW does moving forward, and how Fisch does in his rebuild, then poasting over and over again about DeBoer and the university budget for DeBoer.
I hope Fisch is the right answer and that UW is in the playoffs in year 3. If he overachieves and does that in year 2, awesome, but I doubt it will happen. Three years is a reasonable amount of time to give a head coach. Petersen needed three years.
DeBoer is an outlier and cannot be the expectation for every new coach. It was the perfect storm of a lot of factors.
Tldr Same shit different coach
Go back to dawgman. Please
You can't expect. JFC
DeBoer
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DeBoer
25-3. Finals. Pac 12 championship
Gee maybe someday Fisch won't suck
Until
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You and Deboer are reaching Kim and Sark territory
25-3 CFP finalist
It played out. It was great
Fuck off
Sark never did shit here
We should not be where we are and I will keep saying it and if you don't like it that's tough fucking shit for you
Let's keep the roster in mind. Petersen set the table for Lake with his 2019 and 2020 classes yet Lake utterly screwed it up so DeBoer came in, added a few pieces (Penix, DJ, Mohammed) and went on an epic two-year run. The 2021 and 2022 classes were disasters so the 2024 squad was crushed when much remaining talent left after DeBoer did (Brailsford, Kalepo, Mohammed, Buelow, Bernard, Cuevas, Powell, Turner, and Mack). Of those 8 guys who left, 7 or 8 of them were already starters or were going to be in 2024).
This isn't to excuse the staff for the own goals (speed option against WSU with Rogers) and sloppy play (special teams particularly) but it does provide context on the 2024 season.
With that said, Fisch is probably not the guy to get UW back to the playoffs but he and his staff are at least much better recruiters than the previous staff. The ideal scenario is probably that he wins enough in 2025 or 2026 and heads off to the NFL.
UW was lucky to hire DeBoer. Cohen, who most here hate, made the hire of a lifetime. The smart money here, myself and you included, liked him a LOT before he even coached a game.
Luckily for UW, Covid + NIL + relaxed transfer rules equaled a reunion with a big Penix gunslinger. Not an advantage any other 1st year UW coaches have had.
Add in legit Petersen upperclassmen and the rest is history.
Not a scenario that often plays out. Add in the fallout after the wheels came off the bus when DeBoer left the way he did, and honestly it could've been a lot worse than what it is now. UW made the best of a very bad situation. Whether the new guy gets back to competing for titles remains to be seen. It wasn't going to be year 1.