Again, it's why it's bullshit they didn't step up and quickly make Michigan ineligible before the end of the regular season. Now no one is a champion and UW, Alabama and even Georgia and Ohio State borderline have claims. I'm sure there are Florida State doogs who want to claim it too.
I'm not looking it all up now, but from my anecdotal memory a good chunk of pre-BCS title claims are sketchy anyways? I think the way the game went down really sours it but yeah with UW in 2023 if Michigan vacates it you'd be able to say they only lost to the one other undefeated team (not counting QB injured FSU) who were cheaters.
If ASU and WSU stole our signs, it's impossible that a school with a lot more resources failed to do so, or at least figure out Grubb's tendencies.
Someone on X, in a seahawk argument of all things (he was clearly not a fan), said that Grubb/DeBoer ran, "high school plays and routes" and that a top 10 draft QB and 3 NFL receivers are the only things that make that even possible.
Here's a problem with the ASU and WSU thing and possible Michigan - they were doing the whole audible thing at the LOS all the time. Especially at home, couldn't they just switch to a lot of that?
With plays and routes I could see the talent they had there allowing them to kind of just play backyard ball more than others but with things that play to Rome which saved their ass on 4th down conversion against USC, got a TD against WSU and should have gotten them a TD or a 4th down conversion against Michigan, I think they had good plays.
84 is perhaps the most legit one. 1960 meh. The system was obviously broken, but Ole Miss was the only undefeated team. Minnesota claiming that one is fucking disgusting.
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Again, it's why it's bullshit they didn't step up and quickly make Michigan ineligible before the end of the regular season. Now no one is a champion and UW, Alabama and even Georgia and Ohio State borderline have claims. I'm sure there are Florida State doogs who want to claim it too.
That's the biggest difference
UW would have had the Rose Bowl rematch with Bama
There is nothing bullshit about 1960. It's honestly more legit than 1991.
We should hang 84 too
I don't know. They were all in on snitching, but stealing signals to that extent is pretty bad.
I don't want their wins vacated though, even though it kind of makes sense and would "help" us.
I'm not looking it all up now, but from my anecdotal memory a good chunk of pre-BCS title claims are sketchy anyways? I think the way the game went down really sours it but yeah with UW in 2023 if Michigan vacates it you'd be able to say they only lost to the one other undefeated team (not counting QB injured FSU) who were cheaters.
FSU got ass blasted by Jawja
I think they were a different team without their QB and didn't they pretty much boycott and quit that game?
If ASU and WSU stole our signs, it's impossible that a school with a lot more resources failed to do so, or at least figure out Grubb's tendencies.
Someone on X, in a seahawk argument of all things (he was clearly not a fan), said that Grubb/DeBoer ran, "high school plays and routes" and that a top 10 draft QB and 3 NFL receivers are the only things that make that even possible.
A ton of players sat out
That was the nail in the coffin for CFB. There's no doubt it's completely corrupt. SEC cancer.
Here's a problem with the ASU and WSU thing and possible Michigan - they were doing the whole audible thing at the LOS all the time. Especially at home, couldn't they just switch to a lot of that?
With plays and routes I could see the talent they had there allowing them to kind of just play backyard ball more than others but with things that play to Rome which saved their ass on 4th down conversion against USC, got a TD against WSU and should have gotten them a TD or a 4th down conversion against Michigan, I think they had good plays.
True. But that isn't a reason to say they were undefeated like the DAWGS
Second out of three ain't bad.
I want this to happen just so we can flaunt it over Oregon.
I won't be proud of the NC, but it will still be funny that we have 3 to their zero.
The trolling potential is unlimited
Hang the 2023 banner against Michigan this year
Hang 84 next year against the Ducks
Ok fine. I’m on board now. I was completely against this until this poast.
1960, 1984, 1991 all legitimate.
2023 would be sketch AF, hang it anyway.
Taking 2 NC away from Michigan> Being even
Team Htfb
we need to make HcH “2023 Natty*” hats
Back says “yeah but still”
Penix was horrible.
I was sitting there in the stadium 2 hours before kickoff and he was strutting around with his Spiderman costume..
He failed.
84 is perhaps the most legit one. 1960 meh. The system was obviously broken, but Ole Miss was the only undefeated team. Minnesota claiming that one is fucking disgusting.