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Could Kamala win?

Swaye
Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

Saw a bunch of jubilant MAGA folks on X very excited to take on Kamala. I get it. She's a completely incompetent buffoon. But, the main knock on Biden was that he was/is an aged vegetable. I read somewhere Kamala only polls a bit higher than Biden against Trump, but I think dumb suburban soccer Moms might head back towards her for boss girl vibes. I am completely talking out my ass, as I have no read on any polling, but I do wonder if Kamala gives the Dems some type of shot in the arm that gets it close enough for broken water pipes to do their thing?

With Biden it was over. 100% he was cooked and Trump was going to steam roll him. Kamala adds an interesting, and scary, wrinkle.

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  • Goduckies
    Goduckies Member Posts: 7,965

    I need to see the swing states.... that's the key as usual

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,918 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2024

    Married a rich white guy, has a step-daughter who is the fugliest “model” nepotism case ever seen who also was a fundraiser for Hamas, and has a history of locking up blacks (and browns) and holding them in jail/prison longer than necessary for the free labor.

    Done correctly, she loses in a landslide.

  • georgiaduck
    georgiaduck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,591 Swaye's Wigwam

    Recruit MyTulsi to campaign against her directly. Trump can't fall into the narrative of bad man verbally bullying helpless woman.

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661

    yeah pretty much anyone has a better chance than Biden


    But I think dems are forgetting just how awful she truly is

    Shes absolutely the worst person in their whole lineup. You listen to her for 30 secs and immediately can’t stand her.

    But there are a lot of anyone but trump voters so idk.

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,918 Standard Supporter

    But there are a lot of anyone but trump voters so idk

    Are there, though? Outside of the fringe party extremists of the Left that are represented on The Tug, he already has more public support from public figures than he ever had in 2016 and 2020.

  • Swaye
    Swaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,738 Founders Club

    This is a good point. People don't seem "embarrassed" to say they are for Trump anymore. Feels like a major change from the recent past.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,009

    Hilary is tanned rested and ready when this realization sets in.

    Not entirely sure that’s not the plan any way.

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661

    don’t forget the biggest change (besides Covid obviously)


    The libs no longer own twitter


    Hell it’s not even neutral now considering Elon is pro trump.

    But stuff like the very fine people would have had community notes under it and would have never worked if it happened now

  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,661
    edited July 2024

    I also wonder what their main trump attack is going to be. The whole he will dismantle democracy never really played well especially when the devs didn’t even vote their candidate. Plus no one got rounded up into camps 4 years ago so that was always stupid.

    I think they might try to go with Biden was too old you’re too old. Which to be fair is true. Obv he’s not declining like Biden but he’s still absolutely too old.
    Probably a big reason they went young with Vance. But it’s a tough one to overcome

    I also don’t think Kamala is the one to attack him on it. She already is super unlikeable and going angry attack mode isn’t going to help

  • EverettChris
    EverettChris Member Posts: 7,918 Standard Supporter

    If the messaging gets out, she has zero chance as her only job Joe gave her she failed in historic fashion.

    https://twitter.com/rncresearch/status/1815398304660049960?s=46&t=vt0Z6NdoDKWvbfgT6aR_cQ

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,196

    her performance as border czar is an all time failure in public policy.

    Hammer her on that, along with her record as AG of California. She’s a total political animal of the moment, as witnessed by her decisions in Sacramento.


    https://nypost.com/2020/08/12/inside-kamala-harris-polarizing-record-as-a-prosecutor/

    there’s also the fact that she is absolutely miserable on the campaign trail. Like all-time miserable.

  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,629 Founders Club

    Tie her to inflation and radical judges that her tie breaking vote secured.

    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/TieVotes.htm

  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,266

    I think she can win. The main difference with Biden is she might get a few small percentage points of voters who would have otherwise stayed home or voted third party to go with her. The never-Trumpers and "I'm not voting for old people" voter bloc.

    That's all it takes to flip a few swing states.

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,196

    she’s going to get an initial bump coming out of the fanfare associated with the convention and I don’t think Trump can debate her the same way he did Biden obviously but I also think that the dye is cast in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania and that’s game over for the DNC

    I’m convinced this is a down ballot play by the power brokers on the left. They’re worried about congress right now.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,641 Standard Supporter

    I thought the dims were having a virtual convention Zoom call nomination event?

  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,380 Founders Club

    You did notice that they said after she was named yesterday that dems took in almost 50 million dollars because everyone was so fired up about Kamala.

    Everyone knows they didn't take in any money, but have to make it sound like she fires up people just in case the steal is still in play.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,033

    Not really, those voter blocks are small in size.

    Trump will also probably get a boost in the Latino vote from this which is demographically way more meaningful.

  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member Posts: 18,033

    It's probably 50 million that was threatened if Biden wasn't removed.

  • Fire_Marshall_Bill
    Fire_Marshall_Bill Member Posts: 25,579 Standard Supporter

    Lots of WWWs (woke white women, the bane of society) are doing backflips over this stupid, incoherent slut.

    I'd say she'll get slaughtered, and 10 years ago she would have, but we know what Dimocrats and RINOs are capable of. There are reports of voting machines going down in Maricopa Co. due to the Crowdstrike outage Friday (yes, there is early primary voting in July).

  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,148 Standard Supporter

    Agree. Most of that money was already earmarked and just being held until they made the switch. It's not new money.

  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,196

    actually it was 90MM that was withheld, so flexing on a little more than half of that because Joe got fired is laughable.


    if it all got released with Harris as the presumptive nom that still wouldn’t be something to march on, but hey.

    That’s showbiz, baby

  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 6,999
    edited July 2024

    Think about it this way: This is not about Headboard. They will pick a great running mate and hope to steal this one. BO's poll numbers shot up when the press put in that idiot biden and touted him as this savvy foreign affairs expert. The power brokers and their press shut down all talk in print and cable about BO belonging to a church that was bigoted, racist and America hating and paired him with an old fart lifelong poli and that gave the rat voters a level of comfort and warm feelings. It also brought along a bunch of white women middle of the roaders and BAM, 8 years of the worst President of our lifetime. As recent as the early 2000's you would never have won if you belonged to an America and whitey hating church, but the msm took over and now we get horrendous candidates like Headboard.

    This is all about the VP and media control. It is not about Headboard, she is a known idiot so they will divert away from her as much as possible.