Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.

trump shot

1141517192029

Comments

  • EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 4,507

    How does Democrat politicians and judges removing Trump from state ballots “Protect Democracy?”

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,846 Founders Club

    You can see the shattered teleprompter

    Can't you?

  • EverettChrisEverettChris Member Posts: 4,507

    Look at all the trash those deplorable slobs left on the ground as they were quickly evacuated and apparently with very few interviews if people saw anything, if any at all.

  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,988

    With all due respect, you have no idea how you'd react if you got shot at. You'd be surprised and shocked, and your adrenaline would be exploding.

  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,250 Standard Supporter

    Another thing that bothers me. Where's the gun? Have not seen a pic yet of the AR he supposedly used. This isn't normal.

  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,962 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited July 18
  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,962 Swaye's Wigwam

    Mostly that we don't know shit and there's tons of basic unanswered questions. The Joy Reid shit is nothing new. It's a basic forensics question that many have that will be erased soon, hopefully. There's too much shadow of the doubt around this shit and that's the brewing lair of conspiracy. LIPO.

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,846 Founders Club
  • CallMeBigErnCallMeBigErn Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,962 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited July 18

    Have you found the bullet that hit his ear yet?

    I'm just playing devil's advocate showing you how this works. Conspiracy is sinister shit until the investigation is complete. But I can see the appeal. Kinda fun to role play.

    I'm on your side. I am team Occam's Razor if I were a betting man. Dude didn't have a school to shoot up so he went and tried this.

  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,560 Standard Supporter

    Ern votes for DEI and so we get Secret Service agents (airline pilots, air traffic controllers, police officers, firemen, military soldiers) who are hired and promoted based on race and sex rather than meritocracy. The actual job isn't important, just the sex and racial quotas to make incompetents feel good. Then Ern gets concerned about how conspiracy theories get launched.

    https://ace.mu.nu/

    Trump isn't the victim here. The Real Victim is DEI hiring.

    The U.S. Secret Service said Wednesday that it stood by its female agents and was appalled by some of the criticism they've received on conservative social media since Saturday's attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump.

    The Secret Service, in a statement to NBC News, said that the criticism from pundits and influencers was baseless. The agency also stood by its commitment to diversity in recruiting as helping, not hurting, the effectiveness of its protective teams.

    The statement follows a multiday campaign of derision by some conservatives who accused Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service director, of being unqualified and who said that female agents assigned to Trump hadn't been physically capable of protecting him. Some critics said the Secret Service should return to being all-male, which it hasn't been since 1970.

    Anthony Guglielmi, the Secret Service's chief of communication, said in the statement: "We stand united against any attempt to discredit our personnel and their invaluable contributions to our mission and are appalled by the disparaging and disgusting comments against any of our personnel."

    "As an elite law enforcement agency, all of our agents and officers are highly trained and fully capable of performing our missions," he said.

    "It is an insult to the women of our agency to imply that they are unqualified based on gender. Such baseless assertions undermine the professionalism, dedication and expertise of our workforce," he added.

    The failure of the Secret Service to stop the gunman before he was in a position to shoot has come under intense scrutiny, with lawmakers demanding answers and an independent review panel investigating the circumstances. Attendees have said they pointed out the would-be assassin to law enforcement and took video of him for at least two minutes before Trump was struck, according to an NBC News review of video clips.

    But the criticism of the female agents has been different. At least three female agents were among those protecting Trump in the moments after the shooting, according to videos, and in the days since, their actions have become popular targets of criticism and jokes among conservatives, with several posts on X receiving more than 10 million views.

    The criticisms follow a pattern from other recent news events where conservative pundits and lawmakers, without evidence, cite "diversity, equity and inclusion" (DEI) programs as a contributing cause in disasters as disparate as the Boeing-made airplane problems or the Baltimore bridge collapse.

    ...

    Another conservative commentator used a photo of what appears to be the same female agent during or immediately after the shooting as evidence for "why women should not be allowed to do Presidential protection details." The photo shows the agent crouching near -- but not part of -- a huddle of other agents covering Trump's body. That post had more than 11 million views.

    Kenneth Valentine, a retired Secret Service agent and supervisor, said the photo was not evidence by itself that the female agent was in the wrong position.

    "There are a lot of reasons why she might not be on top of that pile," he said in an interview. He said that she might have been approaching from farther away or might have been in the process of switching positions.

    Maybe she was in a squabble with her fellow agent Buffy.

    Buffy think she cute. She know what she did.

    Christopher Rufo is one of those racists who doesn't think that short fat women with experience as police or infantry soldiers should be projecting the most-threatened VIP in the world.

    A surprising number of the Secret Service agents protecting the former president were women. And, according to video recordings of the scene, many did not acquit themselves favorably.

    Scene one: after President Trump ducks, a group of agents leaps to him and protects him with their bodies. A female agent who rushes to the stage acts bravely, without a doubt, but the point of the "huddle" is to protect the president. The agent was much shorter than President Trump, leaving his head and neck exposed after he stood up.

    Scene two: as Trump enters the escape vehicle, a female Secret Service agent fumbles her gun and cannot find her holster; another female agent appears confused and, in the moment of crisis, decides to use both of her hands to put on her sunglasses; a third looks frightened and uncertain.

    These agents wear the typical Secret Service outfits--Kevlar vests pressing against white shirts; black blazers with gold pins; dark sunglasses--but to an impartial observer, they do not appear to have the same poise, confidence, and strength as the male agents around them.

    The obvious question: Why so many female agents? The answer, unfortunately, is the same as in many other institutions: DEI. The Secret Service has highlighted "diversity" as a key priority and its director, Kimberly Cheatle, named to the position in 2022, has pledged to increase dramatically the number of women in the ranks.

    This is official policy. The Secret Service openly boasts that it "prioritizes recruiting women candidates" and has formulated an "affirmative action" plan to increase the number of women, LGBT, Native Americans, and other identity groups.

    Cheatle herself told CBS News that her goal was to reach 30 percent female recruits by 2030: "I'm very conscious, as I sit in this chair now, of making sure that we need to attract diverse candidates and ensure that we are developing and giving opportunities to everybody in our workforce, and particularly women." The agency is well on its way. In 2021, for the first time, the special agent training class graduated more women than men.

    To say it plainly: there is no need for women in a president's security detail. The Secret Service is an elite institution that can funnel down a large number of candidates to select the few who will protect the president. The best candidates--the strongest and fastest, the best marksmen--will be men. That's just reality.

    It's a reality that the Secret Service is determined to circumvent. The agency itself has published its fitness standards in two parts: one for men, and a separate, less rigorous one for women.

Sign In or Register to comment.