Brewing science belongs at any state or agriculture school where that industry is big. You might have a point at a university unless they are engaging in R&D but at Central? Lulz
Universities seem to be doing a pretty bad job of liberating the mind. Lots of hive mind indoctrination going on. Between DEI, climate change, the people's right to free shit paid by others and the promotion of open borders a trade school seems to be holding up just fine. I don't disagree that the liberation of the mind is a noble concept if it means an informed and educated ability to make choices for your betterment that aren't dependent on taking away others freedom and liberty.
Yeah, and that's a good thing. Johnny the average student in high school should go do something other than college. Boomer parents wanted to able to say that their kid was in college so they gave bad advice. And then Johnny goes and fucks around in the dorms and flames out with student debt and a sore asshole.
imagine taking a student loan out for a 4 year degree in something that could be accomplished with a 2 year paid apprenticeship in whatever town you already live in….
The here are business courses included as a part of the major. These are not new majors. Odd a few of you are so focused on what is basically a business degree with a skill attached.
Cal-Davis has had a Department of Viticulture and Enology for decades.
Imagine paying $150,000 for a degree to learn that white people suck, that if you’re anything other than a straight white male then you’re a victim, that capitalism sucks, that there are infinite genders, and that conservatives are literally Hitler.
The hire one of these creatures and not have it blow up in your face.
Local CC up the road here has a bevy of medical 2.5 year programs. Costs about 25K including lab fees to graduate with a dental hygienist certification with 100% job placement and an average starting salary 60K per year that moves to the National average of 90K per year within 5 years. 2.5 years. Little to no debt. In demand portable career with certification that will be a 6 figure job after 10 years of work, OR, saddle yourself with over 100K in debt for a 4 year indoctrination and an art history or sociology degree so you can make 15 bucks an hour as a barista at Starbucks.
If you arent STEM, business or one of a small handful of pre-grad school paths that end in law or medicine, then college is a loser. Go clean peoples teeth, or get into HVAC or electrical. Steady jobs without crushing debt that pay very very well now since we suckered a couple of generations of kids to believe in their mostly worthless college degrees and the trades and skilled technician industry saw major drops in apprenticeships and enrollments. Supply and demand. Too much gender studies and interpretive literature, not enough teeth cleaners, x-ray techs and plumbers.
Ftr my friend has an OSU brewing degree that cost hardly anything back in the day and he makes six figures. He's still looking for that brewery to make equity and retire on but he's hardly doing poorly compared to many other degrees.
That's not a woman's studies in equity degree from Columbia that some of you seem to think it is.
Mostly agree but there's plenty of grey area out there. College networks are also important. Harvey Mudd costs a lot but your network is superior to thr same engineering degree from directional U.
There's also the fact that it doesn't matter what some people major in. They will be successful no matter what or a failure no matter what. I suspect many of our ethnic studies majors wouldn't be successful even with a stem degree.
I mean what's there to engage on? There's a million breweries here. Not sure any of the pyramid scheme sales "companies" that you got your start with are left. Makes more sense to go the beavlet route.
I have a grad degree, you don't. So another sick burn you shouldn't be throwing around.
It's true. Central has an accounting degree mill run with child labor. I get more resumes sent to me from there than anywhere else, by far. They all suck.
Comments
A university is supposed to make you smarter. Seems to do the opposite these days for many.
Youhave people with college degrees that can't read a clock or make change. A McDonald's job would have trashy them more
Brewing science belongs at any state or agriculture school where that industry is big. You might have a point at a university unless they are engaging in R&D but at Central? Lulz
Universities seem to be doing a pretty bad job of liberating the mind. Lots of hive mind indoctrination going on. Between DEI, climate change, the people's right to free shit paid by others and the promotion of open borders a trade school seems to be holding up just fine. I don't disagree that the liberation of the mind is a noble concept if it means an informed and educated ability to make choices for your betterment that aren't dependent on taking away others freedom and liberty.
That's what is happening, more mechanics and less philosophers
https://www.businessinsider.com/culinary-mechanics-construction-trade-program-increase-college-enrollment-decreases-study-2023-4
Yeah, and that's a good thing. Johnny the average student in high school should go do something other than college. Boomer parents wanted to able to say that their kid was in college so they gave bad advice. And then Johnny goes and fucks around in the dorms and flames out with student debt and a sore asshole.
the dumbest thing are the arguments that universities should be a “well rounded educational experience”
Maybe 50 years ago but when it’s now an expensive requirement to get a basic job, you can’t afford to have it be full of bullshit.
It’s just a white collar trade school that costs an arm and a leg and teaches no actual job skills lol
It’s absurd
imagine taking a student loan out for a 4 year degree in something that could be accomplished with a 2 year paid apprenticeship in whatever town you already live in….
You have to take out loans to go to college?
Mods? Devs? Poors?
The here are business courses included as a part of the major. These are not new majors. Odd a few of you are so focused on what is basically a business degree with a skill attached.
Cal-Davis has had a Department of Viticulture and Enology for decades.
Imagine paying $150,000 for a degree to learn that white people suck, that if you’re anything other than a straight white male then you’re a victim, that capitalism sucks, that there are infinite genders, and that conservatives are literally Hitler.
The hire one of these creatures and not have it blow up in your face.
if you’re going to get a degree in working at a brewery probably
Local CC up the road here has a bevy of medical 2.5 year programs. Costs about 25K including lab fees to graduate with a dental hygienist certification with 100% job placement and an average starting salary 60K per year that moves to the National average of 90K per year within 5 years. 2.5 years. Little to no debt. In demand portable career with certification that will be a 6 figure job after 10 years of work, OR, saddle yourself with over 100K in debt for a 4 year indoctrination and an art history or sociology degree so you can make 15 bucks an hour as a barista at Starbucks.
If you arent STEM, business or one of a small handful of pre-grad school paths that end in law or medicine, then college is a loser. Go clean peoples teeth, or get into HVAC or electrical. Steady jobs without crushing debt that pay very very well now since we suckered a couple of generations of kids to believe in their mostly worthless college degrees and the trades and skilled technician industry saw major drops in apprenticeships and enrollments. Supply and demand. Too much gender studies and interpretive literature, not enough teeth cleaners, x-ray techs and plumbers.
A fermentation science degree at Oregon State is worth a lot more than every degree at Oregon. Simple fact.
oh buddy did you think I was gonna engage you in another pillow fight over undergraduate degrees? lol
Ftr my friend has an OSU brewing degree that cost hardly anything back in the day and he makes six figures. He's still looking for that brewery to make equity and retire on but he's hardly doing poorly compared to many other degrees.
That's not a woman's studies in equity degree from Columbia that some of you seem to think it is.
Mostly agree but there's plenty of grey area out there. College networks are also important. Harvey Mudd costs a lot but your network is superior to thr same engineering degree from directional U.
There's also the fact that it doesn't matter what some people major in. They will be successful no matter what or a failure no matter what. I suspect many of our ethnic studies majors wouldn't be successful even with a stem degree.
Vanilla Quote aids
I see the rationale but sorry, a Bachelor of Science Beer?
I mean what's there to engage on? There's a million breweries here. Not sure any of the pyramid scheme sales "companies" that you got your start with are left. Makes more sense to go the beavlet route.
I have a grad degree, you don't. So another sick burn you shouldn't be throwing around.
I mean any degree from central is questionable but why this is the one you seem to be hung up on is beyond me.
It's true. Central has an accounting degree mill run with child labor. I get more resumes sent to me from there than anywhere else, by far. They all suck.