I can't wrap my head around how this whole thread has turned into an indictment on Ukraine, like they are the ones at fault, corrupt, etc. A nightclub is open in Kyiv. The horror. Blinken played guitar. The horror. Elections CAN be legitimate in a war ravaged and presently invaded country with missiles flying around targeting citizens, a country missing 20% of it's territory and millions of people. Obviously they can have an election.
Meanwhile Russia doesn't even get lip service. Not a peep.
This thread could be so fun if we were united in our disdain for Russia, as we should be. Might need to start a new thread with a new focus. I need more Russia hate.
It didn't have to be this way. But PGOS and the media loved Ukraine and said we should be protecting their great democracy. Reality is that Ukraine generally sucks and on the surface isn't worth defending with our money or attention. Defanging Russia is a better argument, but that's not how it was pitched out of the gates. For the reason that spending $100b+ to subdue Russia wasn't going to have the support with the people.
I also support Israel's position in needing to retaliate, believe it or not. I've never spoken on it. The Hamas attack was horrific. There's also a line that needs to be balanced when it comes to killing innocent civilians. Both these things can be true, believe it or not. Everything I say is grounded in basic moral and logic principles, never attached to a candidate or party, but somehow it's perceived that way. When it comes to millions of Americans believing in and reinforcing bullshit, that's where I have to step in sometimes. Yes, I think there is a political skew in believing bullshit, but it ain't a party over everything thing you make it out to be. I can get down on anything if it's not bullshit. Just say no to bullshit, I say.
So Israel is intentionally killing civilians just like Hamas killed Jews and the hostages? When you phuckers call it genocide you have no idea what actual genocide is. Just like the German and the Japanese did, the Gazans chose badly. All Hamas has to do is surrender and the war is over and the Jews get what few hostages are left returned.
Yes Hamas should surrender. Me phuckers calling it genocide? I don't know what you're talking about brother. It's war, people die. We should at least offer attempts to reduce the deaths of innocent civilians with a peaceful resolution. Sure it may not happen, but you have to try. This isn't complicated. Next.
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I can't wrap my head around how this whole thread has turned into an indictment on Ukraine, like they are the ones at fault, corrupt, etc. A nightclub is open in Kyiv. The horror. Blinken played guitar. The horror. Elections CAN be legitimate in a war ravaged and presently invaded country with missiles flying around targeting citizens, a country missing 20% of it's territory and millions of people. Obviously they can have an election.
Meanwhile Russia doesn't even get lip service. Not a peep.
This thread could be so fun if we were united in our disdain for Russia, as we should be. Might need to start a new thread with a new focus. I need more Russia hate.
It didn't have to be this way. But PGOS and the media loved Ukraine and said we should be protecting their great democracy. Reality is that Ukraine generally sucks and on the surface isn't worth defending with our money or attention. Defanging Russia is a better argument, but that's not how it was pitched out of the gates. For the reason that spending $100b+ to subdue Russia wasn't going to have the support with the people.
Defanging Russia and preventing further Russia bullshit has always been the PGOS philosophy
I don't really care that much about Democracy in Ukraine. That's a sidequest
Page one you were a fan of Ukraine and defending their democracy, I agree once challenged on that point you gave up pretty quickly.
Russia is better off today and Ukraine is worse off
Combining a phony war of sanctions against Russia while ensuring that Europe remained hooked on their gas was pretty fucking stupid
You had to look at who was pimping this like I did. Bad actors and their allies in Ukraine
Russia is irrelevant. I was ducking under desks when you pimple heads were in your grandpa's sperm
I'm more of an anti-imperial conquest on a sovereign nation and anti-genocide/culturicide kind of guy. Like, can't we all just get along?
Yeah, we all support Israel too. You should tell the people you vote for all about it. It's news to them.
I also support Israel's position in needing to retaliate, believe it or not. I've never spoken on it. The Hamas attack was horrific. There's also a line that needs to be balanced when it comes to killing innocent civilians. Both these things can be true, believe it or not. Everything I say is grounded in basic moral and logic principles, never attached to a candidate or party, but somehow it's perceived that way. When it comes to millions of Americans believing in and reinforcing bullshit, that's where I have to step in sometimes. Yes, I think there is a political skew in believing bullshit, but it ain't a party over everything thing you make it out to be. I can get down on anything if it's not bullshit. Just say no to bullshit, I say.
So Israel is intentionally killing civilians just like Hamas killed Jews and the hostages? When you phuckers call it genocide you have no idea what actual genocide is. Just like the German and the Japanese did, the Gazans chose badly. All Hamas has to do is surrender and the war is over and the Jews get what few hostages are left returned.
Yes Hamas should surrender. Me phuckers calling it genocide? I don't know what you're talking about brother. It's war, people die. We should at least offer attempts to reduce the deaths of innocent civilians with a peaceful resolution. Sure it may not happen, but you have to try. This isn't complicated. Next.
Wrap your head around 42 US biolabs on their border. We wouldn't let Mexico host Chinese or Russian biolabs.
Actually the guy you voted for would. They own him.
You have major dem players calling it genocide and those pesky Jew hating signs at the the Kill the Jew rallies.
Tryin to get my head around it but its hard to picture what you're saying. Help a brother out?
I am rooting for Ukraine here. Many are not which is fucking retarded
This is so wrong it's not even funny.
This is a disaster for Russia
Kill the Jew rallies.
Sure it is
Everything I said is correct
I’m rooting for whoever can win quicker. Too bad the spring offensive didn’t work. Though predictable.
No Russian ever called me the N word
My dad fought against the Nazis. I'm not supporting them now
Thataway Bobby