Rosengarten had a rough game. I wanted to say he never really got tested against great edge players in the Pac-12 (not playing Latu & the Murphy twins this year) but I look at a decent amount of 7 round mocks and the Coug and Utah have edge guys going before any Michigan guys and he practiced against Trice and ZTF (same as Ute/WSU guys) so who fucking knows.
Those 7 round mocks also show Michigan, is just loaded with guys who are gonna go rounds 4-7 instead of relying on playing walk ons a ton of reps at DE and having no running back. I blame Jimmy for not recruiting for two years and DeBoer for not doing more/better in recruiting/portal the last two. They easily could have had a more full roster the way Michigan did.
It's one of the things about way football and sports can play out they somehow lost to Michigan by more than they lost to Alabama in that game but it really seemed with UW's O against Bama's D it was simply hopeless and they were gonna need a completely broken/lucky play or a defensive score to make a play after the first drive. I never felt that way against Michigan. Felt like they had plays there and just couldn't connect the dots. I also felt that if UW could have even just tied it up and put an ounce of pressure on Michigan's offense that UW easily could have taken control of the game and loosened things up. Basically once guys stopped running in the wrong direction Michigan's offense could do almost nothing and I think they were trying.
If UW ties it up then JJ has to live up to his bullshit draft position and he probably shits himself. We? actually took advantage of Michigan's one major weakness after the first quarter.
Jesus christ, can we just make a new sub forum where Hypnofag can just write novellas and respond to them himself over and over? Because he clearly can't follow anything when someone other than himself is posting. Vanilla? Devs?
2 plays is kind of silly. Our DL wasn't NC caliber and neither were the LBs. Dillon Johnson getting a high ankle sprain on the 1st play of the game didn't help either.
On the other hand, Michigan was a complete team and those two plays would have helped but UW would have lost anyway….just in a closer game.
If UW ties the game at 20 at any point prior to the defense being gassed I think it's a coin-flip finish. UW offense needed the confidence that the offense could match scores, but not while being down 2+ scores.
A one score deficit in the 4th quarter isn't the same as one of the many take-your-pick true ass kickings of the Playoff era championships and semifinals. TCU, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Michigan State, Oregon, Michigan's first try..
If UW ties it up with their 4+ chances to do so then things get really tight for Michigan. That isn't even dooging. Too bad Penix fucked that game away.
UW had plenty of opportunities to change the tide of the game vs Michigan … they didn’t do it
It’s also to fair to say UW didn’t bring their A game offensively …
The problem with the Doog logic of IF this or IF that is that it fails to give any credit to the opposition and what they did well
If you really go back and watch that game and/or remember what you saw LIVE and IN PERSON what you realize is that UW needed to play a very high end offensive game against Michigan in much the same way that they needed to do so against Texas.
Was it possible? Clearly UW had that capability
But it’s also asking a lot of a team to double up elite performances in back to back games given the travel, pomp, and circumstances surrounding those games.
It’s ok to be both appreciative of UW’s season while also acknowledging that the more complete team won the final game
If you're only down by a touchdown in the 4th and get 4 stops in a row (not to mention the ball to start the 2nd half) and have one of if not the best offense in college football, you get to say IF.
Against Texas and Oregon we got up by fucking 10 with just minutes left and properly bled out the game. They don't get to say IF.
Not once have I even disparaged Michigan, beyond that their Puyallup Fair caramel popcorn selling looking motherfucking QB never had to bail them out, and if he would have in a tie game, shit would have gotten real for them.
I think it's fair to give Michigan credit while still thinking What If with the Doogs. It was a weird fucking game though and wasn't like the Peach or Rose Bowl against Ohio State which ended up being like a one possession game but UW felt way more outclassed. Even the Fiesta against Penn State. Michigan didn't hit big run plays like that really against ANYONE all year and I mean like Bowling Green and UNLV. It was fucking startling and once guys stopped running in completely wrong directions like they were high school kids Michigan legitimately had like one play, which should have been called back for holding.
Maybe he'll pan out but I wouldn't put McCarthy with a true freshman Hurts, Trace McSorley - maybe with the Ohio State QB who died. He deserves credit for that scramble though to get them out of their own end zone in the third quarter. That could have finally flipped the field for UW.
I'm here because I don't ever get over this shit but at least this isn't like when I first came here and we were bitching about clock management to get a meaningless win over Arizona instead of against Texas to win a Sugar Bowl.
Thank god you were on the opposite end of the field. I don't think I could take having to listen to their truck stop fans gloat AND your Seattle blowhard ass.
I'm generally a believer in that but what are their ifs? Penix doesn't ignore three wide open guys and instead throws it over McMillan's head to a guy covering no one or he ignores Odunze for an easy first and throws some weird jump ball to Tybo that somehow stays in play and gets picked?
I'm not trying to be a doog I really just can't think of another Husky loss and credit to them for playing very well. That's part of it. I mean Uw had a game flipping play called back on a hold, Michigan gets the ball back, has a more clear hold (I'm conceding it's most likely the wefs just didn't have a view on it) and it saves a play which flips the game for them.
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Two 11 point plays away!
I haven't decided if I will ever watch it.
But I will forever believe our travel scheduling and cheapness was a partial cause of the team playing so off.
Rosengarten had a rough game. I wanted to say he never really got tested against great edge players in the Pac-12 (not playing Latu & the Murphy twins this year) but I look at a decent amount of 7 round mocks and the Coug and Utah have edge guys going before any Michigan guys and he practiced against Trice and ZTF (same as Ute/WSU guys) so who fucking knows.
Those 7 round mocks also show Michigan, is just loaded with guys who are gonna go rounds 4-7 instead of relying on playing walk ons a ton of reps at DE and having no running back. I blame Jimmy for not recruiting for two years and DeBoer for not doing more/better in recruiting/portal the last two. They easily could have had a more full roster the way Michigan did.
It's one of the things about way football and sports can play out they somehow lost to Michigan by more than they lost to Alabama in that game but it really seemed with UW's O against Bama's D it was simply hopeless and they were gonna need a completely broken/lucky play or a defensive score to make a play after the first drive. I never felt that way against Michigan. Felt like they had plays there and just couldn't connect the dots. I also felt that if UW could have even just tied it up and put an ounce of pressure on Michigan's offense that UW easily could have taken control of the game and loosened things up. Basically once guys stopped running in the wrong direction Michigan's offense could do almost nothing and I think they were trying.
If UW ties it up then JJ has to live up to his bullshit draft position and he probably shits himself. We? actually took advantage of Michigan's one major weakness after the first quarter.
You mean like "what if our coach hadn't ben interviewiing for another job in the days leading up to the game?"
Michigan never needed to open it up … when they did in the 4th they completely shifted the field and ended the game
It’s a chicken and egg argument
This is accurate and why what ifs are what they are
Nobody has more what ifs than Oregon against UW
Scoreboard baby
Jesus christ, can we just make a new sub forum where Hypnofag can just write novellas and respond to them himself over and over? Because he clearly can't follow anything when someone other than himself is posting. Vanilla? Devs?
2 plays is kind of silly. Our DL wasn't NC caliber and neither were the LBs. Dillon Johnson getting a high ankle sprain on the 1st play of the game didn't help either.
On the other hand, Michigan was a complete team and those two plays would have helped but UW would have lost anyway….just in a closer game.
If UW ties the game at 20 at any point prior to the defense being gassed I think it's a coin-flip finish. UW offense needed the confidence that the offense could match scores, but not while being down 2+ scores.
2 sentences = a novel?
Your gross hatred is pathetic
A one score deficit in the 4th quarter isn't the same as one of the many take-your-pick true ass kickings of the Playoff era championships and semifinals. TCU, Cincinnati, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Michigan State, Oregon, Michigan's first try..
If UW ties it up with their 4+ chances to do so then things get really tight for Michigan. That isn't even dooging. Too bad Penix fucked that game away.
UW had plenty of opportunities to change the tide of the game vs Michigan … they didn’t do it
It’s also to fair to say UW didn’t bring their A game offensively …
The problem with the Doog logic of IF this or IF that is that it fails to give any credit to the opposition and what they did well
If you really go back and watch that game and/or remember what you saw LIVE and IN PERSON what you realize is that UW needed to play a very high end offensive game against Michigan in much the same way that they needed to do so against Texas.
Was it possible? Clearly UW had that capability
But it’s also asking a lot of a team to double up elite performances in back to back games given the travel, pomp, and circumstances surrounding those games.
It’s ok to be both appreciative of UW’s season while also acknowledging that the more complete team won the final game
Jesus Christ.
You mean like this kind of LIVE and IN PERSON?
If you're only down by a touchdown in the 4th and get 4 stops in a row (not to mention the ball to start the 2nd half) and have one of if not the best offense in college football, you get to say IF.
Against Texas and Oregon we got up by fucking 10 with just minutes left and properly bled out the game. They don't get to say IF.
Not once have I even disparaged Michigan, beyond that their Puyallup Fair caramel popcorn selling looking motherfucking QB never had to bail them out, and if he would have in a tie game, shit would have gotten real for them.
IF IF IF
UW had plenty of chances to get the game tied up … they never succeeded in doing so
I recommend going back and reading what Uncle Race said … if him and I are aligned on a viewpoint then that’s saying something
Congrats on being at the game …
I think it's fair to give Michigan credit while still thinking What If with the Doogs. It was a weird fucking game though and wasn't like the Peach or Rose Bowl against Ohio State which ended up being like a one possession game but UW felt way more outclassed. Even the Fiesta against Penn State. Michigan didn't hit big run plays like that really against ANYONE all year and I mean like Bowling Green and UNLV. It was fucking startling and once guys stopped running in completely wrong directions like they were high school kids Michigan legitimately had like one play, which should have been called back for holding.
Maybe he'll pan out but I wouldn't put McCarthy with a true freshman Hurts, Trace McSorley - maybe with the Ohio State QB who died. He deserves credit for that scramble though to get them out of their own end zone in the third quarter. That could have finally flipped the field for UW.
I'm here because I don't ever get over this shit but at least this isn't like when I first came here and we were bitching about clock management to get a meaningless win over Arizona instead of against Texas to win a Sugar Bowl.
Thank god you were on the opposite end of the field. I don't think I could take having to listen to their truck stop fans gloat AND your Seattle blowhard ass.
Michigan can play the IF game too. That’s the problem with that game and why it’s silly to play in the first place.
I'm generally a believer in that but what are their ifs? Penix doesn't ignore three wide open guys and instead throws it over McMillan's head to a guy covering no one or he ignores Odunze for an easy first and throws some weird jump ball to Tybo that somehow stays in play and gets picked?
I'm not trying to be a doog I really just can't think of another Husky loss and credit to them for playing very well. That's part of it. I mean Uw had a game flipping play called back on a hold, Michigan gets the ball back, has a more clear hold (I'm conceding it's most likely the wefs just didn't have a view on it) and it saves a play which flips the game for them.