Thoughts on Fisch & Staying Long
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Napiers buyout is huge. Like 30 million huge. Florida is pretty loaded but not aTm loaded. They have a massive commitment to non revenue sports. They compete at a high level in everything. They have dead money wrapped up in other coaches, the buyout for Napier and the buyout for Fisch may not even be doable for a program like Florida. Something is rotten in The Swamp and no one they bring in can overcome it. Mullen, an Urban disciple, got MSU to 11 wins. That's almost impossible. Napier was seen as a can't miss coach. The build he did at Louisiana was impressive and sustained over a three year period. Both of those coaches have failed or are failing spectacularly. I wouldn't touch Florida, its toxic. I wouldn't expect Fisch to move on for any job for at least three or four years unless he gets UW back to the Semi Finals and at that point it's worth the skin.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.AEB said:1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.
2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.
The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.
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AccurateFireTheJanitor said:
Higher than David Shaw’sthechatch said:What’s his buyout?
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Inaccuratedirtysouwfdawg said:
Eleventy hundred million dollars.thechatch said:What’s his buyout?
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@DerekJohnson I agree. My broader point was not to worry about an early departure as the outcomes in many cases skew UWs way favorably (excepting @GrundleStiltzkin point on what if he sucks?).DerekJohnson said:
How about the idea that Washington has the qualities to be a destination school so long as the administration continues its newfound commitment to winning and that Seattle doesn't allow the next CHAZ to take root outside of Husky Stadium.GrundleStiltzkin said:
@AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.AEB said:1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.
2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.
The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.
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It seems like we're wringing our hands over so many variables when the guy hasn't even coached a game yet.
I think UW is close to being a destination evidenced by the fact we hired arguably “best available” within 48 hours after losing our coach to the best CF program.
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Fisch is from New Jersey there’s nothing about Seattle or it’s politics that are going to bother him. lolAEB said:
@DerekJohnson I agree. My broader point was not to worry about an early departure as the outcomes in many cases skew UWs way favorably (excepting @GrundleStiltzkin point on what if he sucks?).DerekJohnson said:
How about the idea that Washington has the qualities to be a destination school so long as the administration continues its newfound commitment to winning and that Seattle doesn't allow the next CHAZ to take root outside of Husky Stadium.GrundleStiltzkin said:
@AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.AEB said:1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.
2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.
The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.
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It seems like we're wringing our hands over so many variables when the guy hasn't even coached a game yet.
I think UW is close to being a destination evidenced by the fact we hired arguably “best available” within 48 hours after losing our coach to the best CF program.
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The Florida job will be probably be open before their 11/30/24 game with FSU. They’re not finishing better than 6-6. Whether or not Fisch wants it is the only unknown. Napier is dead HC walking.theknowledge said:
Napiers buyout is huge. Like 30 million huge. Florida is pretty loaded but not aTm loaded. They have a massive commitment to non revenue sports. They compete at a high level in everything. They have dead money wrapped up in other coaches, the buyout for Napier and the buyout for Fisch may not even be doable for a program like Florida. Something is rotten in The Swamp and no one they bring in can overcome it. Mullen, an Urban disciple, got MSU to 11 wins. That's almost impossible. Napier was seen as a can't miss coach. The build he did at Louisiana was impressive and sustained over a three year period. Both of those coaches have failed or are failing spectacularly. I wouldn't touch Florida, its toxic. I wouldn't expect Fisch to move on for any job for at least three or four years unless he gets UW back to the Semi Finals and at that point it's worth the skin.CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.AEB said:1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.
2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.
The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.
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Are we sure Fisch really even covets the Florida job?
It seems like he deliberately went there to try to get on board with Spurrier and work his way up the coaching profession any way he could, not because he has some specific affinity for Florida. He seems like a general ladder climber like DeBoer, not a Florida Guy, per se. -
In order of importance for the next 12 months
- Bringing Fajita and Mcmillen
- Bringing the good half the Zona roster
- Hiring good assistants
- Salvaging what is possible from the UW roster
- finding 3-5 bigger fisch in the portal
- Starting the season 5-0
- recruiting and portal fisching well during season
- Finishing the season strong
- Win 9+ games
- Building momentum into the next year
- Get guys to buy in and come back for another season
- Clean up anything that needs to be cleaned up in the off season
- Being worried that another team wants to pay UW 30+ mil because he is a good coach they want
- Bringing Fajita and Mcmillen
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Ya I'd say he goes to the NFL before Florida if he's successful.Miley_Cyrus said:Are we sure Fisch really even covets the Florida job?
It seems like he deliberately went there to try to get on board with Spurrier and work his way up the coaching profession any way he could, not because he has some specific affinity for Florida. He seems like a general ladder climber like DeBoer, not a Florida Guy, per se.







