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Thoughts on Fisch & Staying Long

AEB
AEB Member Posts: 2,994
1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

TL;DR - WGAF
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  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    edited January 2024

    Can UW afford to fire him if he sucks, assuming a large buyout?

    I purposely left that part out. See Mike Hopkins

    EDIT - joking aside, the full B1G share helps a lot on that front. As long as he doesn’t hit a player and we can make it two years.
  • PatsDoog
    PatsDoog Member Posts: 159
    I think he stays unless Harbaugh remains at Michigan for another year and that job opens up. The more I hear about Florida the more I think their cheap AD won't have the balls to pay out 30 mil for Nipples' buyout and another 20mil+ for Fisch's alongside a new contract. That's A&M money.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994
    PatsDoog said:

    I think he stays unless Harbaugh remains at Michigan for another year and that job opens up. The more I hear about Florida the more I think their cheap AD won't have the balls to pay out 30 mil for Nipples' buyout and another 20mil+ for Fisch's alongside a new contract. That's A&M money.

    Not as concerned about FL. He’s a Jersey native who went to FL to get connected with Spurrier to get into coaching. That seems more transactional than not.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

    Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    AEB said:

    we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

    Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.
    How so?
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    he’s the first hire of “this type of guy” we’ve made since neuheisel. I don’t think we knew sark was that kind of guy.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    AEB said:

    we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

    Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.
    How so?
    He’ll be portaling in his own QB and RB for one.
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    AEB said:

    AEB said:

    we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

    Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.
    How so?
    He’ll be portaling in his own QB and RB for one.
    DeBoor tried to portal one and got another of his former QBs. Guess he didn't get a RB. I'm not arguing, I don't know much about this Fisch fellah.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,241 Founders Club
    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    AEB said:

    AEB said:

    we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

    Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.
    How so?
    He’ll be portaling in his own QB and RB for one.
    DeBoor tried to portal one and got another of his former QBs. Guess he didn't get a RB. I'm not arguing, I don't know much about this Fisch fellah.
    Based on the turnaround in AZ and how surprisingly difficult they were to play this year (they broke Rome’s ribs!), I like this hire. Not as concerned about him leaving is the broader point. If he sucks, we’re stuck for a few years, but like DeBoer, if his QB comes, we probably won’t suck. If he’s good and he leaves, the buyout helps a lot. Of the 3 true outcomes: Sucks, Good/Great and stays, Good/Great and leaves, we’re happy in two and the third could be mitigated by Fafita similar to Penix… And IRREGARDLESS is not a word!!!!
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,241 Founders Club
    TheHB said:

    AEB said:

    we had no choice but to hire him IRREGARDLESS

    Right. And, he’s a complete 360 degree change from DeBoer.
    So you’re saying he’s DeBoer?
    I laffed
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    He will not be here 7 years….no chance
  • WilburHooksHands
    WilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,804
    edited January 2024

    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    he was a grad assistant under spurrier and went to school at florida specifically because of that opportunity as i’ve heard it. his roommate is also the current GM of some NFL team, big football guy
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,457

    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    he was a grad assistant under spurrier and went to school at florida specifically because of that opportunity as i’ve heard it. his roommate is also the current GM of some NFL team, big football guy
    He did graduate from Florida. Class of ‘98
  • UWhuskytskeet
    UWhuskytskeet Member Posts: 7,113

    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    he was a grad assistant under spurrier and went to school at florida specifically because of that opportunity as i’ve heard it. his roommate is also the current GM of some NFL team, big football guy
    GM of the Eagles
  • thechatch
    thechatch Member Posts: 7,198
    What’s his buyout?
  • FireTheJanitor
    FireTheJanitor Member Posts: 1,483
    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Higher than David Shaw’s
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086
    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Eleventy hundred million dollars.
  • AEB
    AEB Member Posts: 2,994

    thechatch said:

    What’s his buyout?

    Eleventy hundred million dollars.
    They teach Maff down there?
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,346 Founders Club

    AEB said:

    1) The buyout will be huge if he leaves, and the net difference between the two for the next coach will be beneficial to the department like it was with KDB. He only leaves if he’s winning, too.

    2) Expect a raise and extension going into Year 3. If he is who we want him to be, after Year 2 he’ll be due for a raise and extension as UW starts to get a full share from the B1G.

    The two year point will once again be huge. He’ll either leave and UW gets paid and can source another coach, or he gets a raise and stays 7-10 years. Many of our financial challenges improve once we get a full share, and therefore that’s timeframe.

    TL;DR - WGAF

    Just twatted this but if Florida fires Napier, it’ll be at or before the end of the season and if Fisch takes it, it’ll be early in the cycle so UW won’t be in the same precarious situation.
    @AEB made a good poont above, the Florida thing was just part of his hustle. Fisch never played football there or anywhere. So it's not Florida alone weº have to worry about, it's Florida and all other jobs perceived to be above Warshington.
    How about the idea that Washington has the qualities to be a destination school so long as the administration continues its newfound commitment to winning and that Seattle doesn't allow the next CHAZ to take root outside of Husky Stadium.

    It seems like we're wringing our hands over so many variables when the guy hasn't even coached a game yet.
    Agree