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Hypothetically speaking, better option for UW Football in 2024 and going forward: DeBoer or Fisch?

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  • digits
    digits Member Posts: 1,742
    "I don't deal with hypotheticals".
  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    ntxduck said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    Revisionist history at its finest
    Hard to say. I didn't even allow myself to think about what the reset was going to look like because we were in the middle of the world's most stressful 21 game winning streak. We didn't have time to decompress from the natty game before he was gone, so I don't think there even was a prevailing narrative about what 2024 was going to look like.

    We're also in a pretty uncertain period in CFB - do you need robust HS recruiting to build a successful program? Or can you sustain success on 1-2 year infusions of talent? Nobody actually knows, but Deboer leaving is certainly an indication of what he might've been thinking.
  • DoogmanRefund
    DoogmanRefund Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,005 Swaye's Wigwam
    ntxduck said:

    Eklund is usually useless but right after DeBoer left he did have some insight that I think is correct. He said one of the main reasons DeBoer left was he felt like he was in for a long season in 2024 due to players leaving and his own lack of recruiting success. He mentioned that even some of the players penciled in as returning starters for 2024 were planning on hitting the portal regardless of deboor being coach or not. Muhammad was one of them.

    A world could exist where we end up with a better roster next year with Fisch than we would have with DeBoor

    That’s really interesting. What was muhammad’s issue with UW?
    ntxduck said:

    Eklund is usually useless but right after DeBoer left he did have some insight that I think is correct. He said one of the main reasons DeBoer left was he felt like he was in for a long season in 2024 due to players leaving and his own lack of recruiting success. He mentioned that even some of the players penciled in as returning starters for 2024 were planning on hitting the portal regardless of deboor being coach or not. Muhammad was one of them.

    A world could exist where we end up with a better roster next year with Fisch than we would have with DeBoor

    That’s really interesting. What was muhammad’s issue with UW?
    I am also curious about this. If he goes anywhere more than like 100 miles from his hometown the he is completely full of shit.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,698
    DeBoer struck lightning with inheriting a surprisingly decent amount of talent and then bringing in an ace like Penix that really put things in motion, he also added a few good portal pieces. Was last season repeatable? I'm going to say absofuckinglutely not, and he knew it. He didn't attack recruiting like his job relied on it, because, well, it didn't. Win big with a senior/upperclassmen heavy class, cash in and LEAVE because he isn't replicating last season. Who knows if DeBoer can recruit on a large level, Fisch has a ton of experience NFL and College, which will serve us well

    So, with that being said, our best option big picture wise is with Fisch
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,698
    chuck said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    I did to be honest. My doog was on over drive and I was buying everything the snake oil insurance sales man was selling. It was just a couple more D transfers and a couple more on O and I figured dedouche would culture and coach his team to the top 12.

    First time I’ve ever gone all in on a coach. It only took me watching three movies about violence and death and a Spider-Man movie to get some perspective.
    Same. By Thursday I was doubtful on whether I'd even keep coming to this site. No other reason than crushing sports depression that only got worse reading the board.

    My ball shrinkage started to dissipate on its own, then the coaching search picked up steam, and now here we are. Bummer about Deboer but apparently the football program is in good hands.
    Of course you'd be back, you're a goddam Mariners fan. You guys live for shit like this
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    dannarc said:

    chuck said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    I did to be honest. My doog was on over drive and I was buying everything the snake oil insurance sales man was selling. It was just a couple more D transfers and a couple more on O and I figured dedouche would culture and coach his team to the top 12.

    First time I’ve ever gone all in on a coach. It only took me watching three movies about violence and death and a Spider-Man movie to get some perspective.
    Same. By Thursday I was doubtful on whether I'd even keep coming to this site. No other reason than crushing sports depression that only got worse reading the board.

    My ball shrinkage started to dissipate on its own, then the coaching search picked up steam, and now here we are. Bummer about Deboer but apparently the football program is in good hands.
    Of course you'd be back, you're a goddam Mariners fan. You guys live for shit like this
    Well, what else do I have to do?
  • Kingdome_Urinals
    Kingdome_Urinals Member Posts: 2,793
    LawDawg1 said:



    ntxduck said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    Revisionist history at its finest
    You’re obviously capable of quoting or adding links. Who here said UW was a playoff team next year? I’ll wait.
    DeBoer is a killer coach. If he stays and there's continuity I could easily see several good pieces coming through the portal.

    2024 looked like a 2-3 loss season at minimum. But could verge on 4-5.

    Think the offense would have been strong and the team would have competed well.

    There's no shame in losing some games after a natty run. He's too much of a pussy to handle it I guess.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    dtd said:

    My sources tell me Jabbar didn't like the weather in Seattle.

    So he's going to Eugene.

    He's a merc. We gave him a contract. He wanted another one.

    Good luck to him. Oregon State is just a non conference game next year.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,269 Standard Supporter
    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    The joke is that they don't make the 12 team offseason playoff.