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Hypothetically speaking, better option for UW Football in 2024 and going forward: DeBoer or Fisch?

Geevis_and_Butthead
Geevis_and_Butthead Member Posts: 1,000
edited January 2024 in Hardcore Husky Board
DeBoer or Fisch?

I'll go with the guy who rebuilt a lower-resource bottom feeder in Tucson and is unquestionably the better recruiter of the two

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  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,260 Standard Supporter
    Oh boy, here we go!
  • whatshouldicareabout
    whatshouldicareabout Member Posts: 12,990
    Depends who we get from UA and who we keep from the portal

    We can debate once we see the end of spring ball
  • Geevis_and_Butthead
    Geevis_and_Butthead Member Posts: 1,000
    TheHB said:

    I’ll wait until next January to answer. Right now, I’d go DeBoner based on what he was able to do here, knowing the talent coming back.

    I think DeBoer and his staff's limpdick recruiting effort was gonna catch up big-time beginning next fall.

    If Fisch brings along Fifita, it's a major upgrade over the try-hard Mike Leach system guy who ended the season on the bench at Mississippi State
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,260 Standard Supporter
    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086
    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Yeah and all the people that chinned the OP show that the bored seconds the sentiment.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,260 Standard Supporter

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Yeah and all the people that chinned the OP show that the bored seconds the sentiment.
    haha, word.
  • DoogmanRefund
    DoogmanRefund Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,002 Swaye's Wigwam
    Gonna take awhile to earn the trust of this jilted lover again. Does he have decent defensive coaching contacts?I don’t follow recruiting at all anymore. Is there a JTT or non-Fetters 5 star coming up anytime soon? Can he repair relationships with Eastside Catholic, O’Dea, Kennedy, Bellevue, Rainier Beach etc? Do those schools matter anymore? Does teen boy stalking matter anymore?
    This team probably sucks next year with literally anyone coaching. So, no. Would have won 7 with staff intact. Might not make a bowl next year.
  • dtd
    dtd Member Posts: 5,260 Standard Supporter

    Gonna take awhile to earn the trust of this jilted lover again. Does he have decent defensive coaching contacts?I don’t follow recruiting at all anymore. Is there a JTT or non-Fetters 5 star coming up anytime soon? Can he repair relationships with Eastside Catholic, O’Dea, Kennedy, Bellevue, Rainier Beach etc? Do those schools matter anymore? Does teen boy stalking matter anymore?
    This team probably sucks next year with literally anyone coaching. So, no. Would have won 7 with staff intact. Might not make a bowl next year.

    UW will definitely not suck next year with Fifita, TMac and an infusion of talent from UA's oline.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086

    dtd said:

    Gonna take awhile to earn the trust of this jilted lover again. Does he have decent defensive coaching contacts?I don’t follow recruiting at all anymore. Is there a JTT or non-Fetters 5 star coming up anytime soon? Can he repair relationships with Eastside Catholic, O’Dea, Kennedy, Bellevue, Rainier Beach etc? Do those schools matter anymore? Does teen boy stalking matter anymore?
    This team probably sucks next year with literally anyone coaching. So, no. Would have won 7 with staff intact. Might not make a bowl next year.

    UW will definitely not suck next year with Fifita, TMac and an infusion of talent from UA's oline.
    I’m not even a little bit convinced they’re transferring. Could totally see a situation where they rally around a shitty coordinator to HC promotion and try to finish what they started in Tucson.
    This. I’ll believe it when I see it.
  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,694 Founders Club

    Eklund is usually useless but right after DeBoer left he did have some insight that I think is correct. He said one of the main reasons DeBoer left was he felt like he was in for a long season in 2024 due to players leaving and his own lack of recruiting success. He mentioned that even some of the players penciled in as returning starters for 2024 were planning on hitting the portal regardless of deboor being coach or not. Muhammad was one of them.

    A world could exist where we end up with a better roster next year with Fisch than we would have with DeBoor

    We're 100% going to have a better roster. Doesn't mean DeBoer couldn't get more wins out of next year. Either way it was going to be reloading/rebuilding and DeBoer's a bitch if that was a big deal to him.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    Revisionist history at its finest
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114

    Eklund is usually useless but right after DeBoer left he did have some insight that I think is correct. He said one of the main reasons DeBoer left was he felt like he was in for a long season in 2024 due to players leaving and his own lack of recruiting success. He mentioned that even some of the players penciled in as returning starters for 2024 were planning on hitting the portal regardless of deboor being coach or not. Muhammad was one of them.

    A world could exist where we end up with a better roster next year with Fisch than we would have with DeBoor

    That’s really interesting. What was muhammad’s issue with UW?
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,114
    dtd said:

    Gonna take awhile to earn the trust of this jilted lover again. Does he have decent defensive coaching contacts?I don’t follow recruiting at all anymore. Is there a JTT or non-Fetters 5 star coming up anytime soon? Can he repair relationships with Eastside Catholic, O’Dea, Kennedy, Bellevue, Rainier Beach etc? Do those schools matter anymore? Does teen boy stalking matter anymore?
    This team probably sucks next year with literally anyone coaching. So, no. Would have won 7 with staff intact. Might not make a bowl next year.

    UW will definitely not suck next year with Fifita, TMac and an infusion of talent from UA's oline.
    UAs OL was bad. Fisch will have better luck trying to get the existing UW OL to stay
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    ntxduck said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    Revisionist history at its finest
    You’re obviously capable of quoting or adding links. Who here said UW was a playoff team next year? I’ll wait.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086
    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    I did to be honest. My doog was on over drive and I was buying everything the snake oil insurance sales man was selling. It was just a couple more D transfers and a couple more on O and I figured dedouche would culture and coach his team to the top 12.

    First time I’ve ever gone all in on a coach. It only took me watching three movies about violence and death and a Spider-Man movie to get some perspective.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086
    LawDawg1 said:



    ntxduck said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    Revisionist history at its finest
    You’re obviously capable of quoting or adding links. Who here said UW was a playoff team next year? I’ll wait.
    Never verbalized for fear of mockery by all the mean ducks here.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942

    Eklund is usually useless but right after DeBoer left he did have some insight that I think is correct. He said one of the main reasons DeBoer left was he felt like he was in for a long season in 2024 due to players leaving and his own lack of recruiting success. He mentioned that even some of the players penciled in as returning starters for 2024 were planning on hitting the portal regardless of deboor being coach or not. Muhammad was one of them.

    This makes a lot of sense but I doubt DeBoer told Eckland shit or that Deboer gave Exkland any insight on his feelings. The writing was on the wall with the recruiting failures and departures. Might as well run while you can given the free pub he’s enjoyed all year.

    Mohammed doesn’t make sense.
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    edited January 2024

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    I did to be honest. My doog was on over drive and I was buying everything the snake oil insurance sales man was selling. It was just a couple more D transfers and a couple more on O and I figured dedouche would culture and coach his team to the top 12.

    First time I’ve ever gone all in on a coach. It only took me watching three movies about violence and death and a Spider-Man movie to get some perspective.
    Well. Shit. lol.

    I was on the fence of let’s win the NC this year and I will be good for the next 10 years. Now I’m fucked.
  • dirtysouwfdawg
    dirtysouwfdawg Member Posts: 14,086
    LawDawg1 said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    I did to be honest. My doog was on over drive and I was buying everything the snake oil insurance sales man was selling. It was just a couple more D transfers and a couple more on O and I figured dedouche would culture and coach his team to the top 12.

    First time I’ve ever gone all in on a coach. It only took me watching three movies about violence and death and a Spider-Man movie to get some perspective.
    Well. Shit. lol.
    To my defense I had mentioned more than a couple times here how the cupboard was looking a little empty. I still was a believer though.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,671 Swaye's Wigwam

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    LawDawg1 said:

    dtd said:

    Oh boy, here we go!

    are you jealous of offseason natty talk or only Oregon wins those championships?
    UW doesn't even make the 12 team playoff.

    But no, I just find all of this quite amusing, and predictable. It was only a matter of tim before we got the "Fisch > DeBoer" thread.
    Pretty sure UW wouldn’t make the 12 team playoff with Deboer. 2024 was always going to take a nose dive. Not sure a single person on this board thought we would.
    I did to be honest. My doog was on over drive and I was buying everything the snake oil insurance sales man was selling. It was just a couple more D transfers and a couple more on O and I figured dedouche would culture and coach his team to the top 12.

    First time I’ve ever gone all in on a coach. It only took me watching three movies about violence and death and a Spider-Man movie to get some perspective.
    Same. By Thursday I was doubtful on whether I'd even keep coming to this site. No other reason than crushing sports depression that only got worse reading the board.

    My ball shrinkage started to dissipate on its own, then the coaching search picked up steam, and now here we are. Bummer about Deboer but apparently the football program is in good hands.