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Hey Snark, nice job passing on Crichton

Just watched the Beavs pac12 primer. I've been bitching about this colossal recruiting fuck-up for 3 years. Looking at how big this dude is. Not to mention how strong and quick he is. Talking about a potential all American. Way to go Sark you fucking idiot. We're moving TE's to defense because you can't evaluate local talent you boof you!
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  • Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited August 2013

    Puppylove, always bitching, sometimes right, mostly exaggerated, mostly wrong, but always entertaining. Reminds me of a person suffering from a combination of bipolar disorder and turrets.

    simple fact

  • puppylove_sugarsteel
    puppylove_sugarsteel Member Posts: 9,133

    Puppylove, always bitching, sometimes right, mostly exaggerated, mostly wrong, but always entertaining. Like somebody suffering from a combination of bipolar disorder and turrets.

    I'm rarely wrong. Give me examples before you question my expertise. That's sugarlove to you buddy!

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Puppylove, always bitching, sometimes right, mostly exaggerated, mostly wrong, but always entertaining. Like somebody suffering from a combination of bipolar disorder and turrets.

    I'm rarely wrong. Give me examples before you question my expertise. That's sugarlove to you buddy!

    I think there's a 4-5 page thread about how the conference with 7 straight crystal balls is overrated.
  • CuntWaffle
    CuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,499
    Pretty much everything you say about the SEC is wrong.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    edited August 2013

    Puppylove, always bitching, sometimes right, mostly exaggerated, mostly wrong, but always entertaining. Like somebody suffering from a combination of bipolar disorder and turrets.

    I'm rarely wrong. Give me examples before you question my expertise. That's sugarlove to you buddy!

    You're almost always wrong. See, everything you've ever said about the SEC for one low hanging example. Or that Reggie Bush wasn't an electric returner if you prefer recency. And for those who prefer comprehensive research, I present this as evidence. Click at your own risk.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    He was bad, but I think Crichton was much worse. When Massey messed up, the whole crowd saw it. Crichton just ran around, did nothing, and fans were oblivious to the fact he sucked on every play.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    He was bad, but I think Crichton was much worse. When Massey messed up, the whole crowd saw it. Crichton just skated around, did nothing, and fans were oblivious to the fact he sucked on every play.
    I'm not arguing. Massey's just the only guy I can think of who was in his stratosphere. At least Massey was always in good position, he just never seemed to make the play. I don't think he started nearly as many games as Talia did either.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,143
    edited August 2013

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    He was bad, but I think Crichton was much worse. When Massey messed up, the whole crowd saw it. Crichton just skated around, did nothing, and fans were oblivious to the fact he sucked on every play.
    I'm not arguing. Massey's just the only guy I can think of who was in his stratosphere. At least Massey was always in good position, he just never seemed to make the play. I don't think he started nearly as many games as Talia did either.
    You nailed it. Massey really wasn't that bad, but he did have about the worst ball skills of any DB this side of Quentin Richardson.

    All of the freshman DB's in 2000 looked like they had bright futures. Derrick Johnson, Roc Alexander, Massey, Greg Carothers, and Jimmy Newell all played well when called upon. All of them seemed to get worse as their careers went on except for Johnson. Some of it was injuries, but the development during the late RN to Gilby years was terrible. Alexander seemed like a surefire star in 2000, but ended up having a pretty disappointing career.

  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    Why do you hate Mike Jensen?
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,560

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    In 2-4 years will that be the case, or is there somebody waiting in the wings to overtake that claim?
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    To be fair, they did get Jamora who if healthy would mitigate the loss of Crichton. Nevertheless, here is what really pisses me off. You could have a starting DL of this right now....

    Chricton and Hudson on the ends with DeAndre Coleman and Danny Shelton in the middle.

    Three Washington kids and three all-conference guys. Hudson who had 6.5 sacks last year would have 10+ with those DT's. Then you'd have Shirley as the situational 5th guy. This would be the best DL in the conference and automatically give you a top 15 defense and probably the best front 7 in 20 years.

    I'm not surprised they didnt get them considering Johnny Nansen was the recruiting coordinator and DL coach. He was a QB in HS and a LB in college. He was the only D coach not fired in 2011. Why? He's Sark's buddy. They chase tail together I heard. It's only what I heard so don't blast me if its wrong. Now he's coaching tight ends and special teams. LOL, what the fuck?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited August 2013

    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    Why do you hate Mike Jensen?

    He's not as bad as Crichton in his respective sport.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    To be fair, they did get Jamora who if healthy would mitigate the loss of Crichton. Nevertheless, here is what really pisses me off. You could have a starting DL of this right now....

    Chricton and Hudson on the ends with DeAndre Coleman and Danny Shelton in the middle.

    Three Washington kids and three all-conference guys. Hudson who had 6.5 sacks last year would have 10+ with those DT's. Then you'd have Shirley as the situational 5th guy. This would be the best DL in the conference and automatically give you a top 15 defense and probably the best front 7 in 20 years.

    I'm not surprised they didnt get them considering Johnny Nansen was the recruiting coordinator and DL coach. He was a QB in HS and a LB in college. He was the only D coach not fired in 2011. Why? He's Sark's buddy. They chase tail together I heard. It's only what I heard so don't blast me if its wrong. Now he's coaching tight ends and special teams. LOL, what the fuck?

    The fence is old outdated thinking.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959


    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    He was bad, but I think Crichton was much worse. When Massey messed up, the whole crowd saw it. Crichton just skated around, did nothing, and fans were oblivious to the fact he sucked on every play.
    I'm not arguing. Massey's just the only guy I can think of who was in his stratosphere. At least Massey was always in good position, he just never seemed to make the play. I don't think he started nearly as many games as Talia did either.
    You nailed it. Massey really wasn't that bad, but he did have about the worst ball skills of any DB this side of Quentin Richardson.

    All of the freshman DB's in 2000 looked like they had bright futures. Derrick Johnson, Roc Alexander, Massey, Greg Carothers, and Jimmy Newell all played well when called upon. All of them seemed to get worse as their careers went on except for Johnson. Some of it was injuries, but the development during the late RN to Gilby years was terrible. Alexander seemed like a surefire star in 2000, but ended up having a pretty disappointing career.

    Has the whole world gone crazy? Massey wasn't that bad? If by not that bad you mean the worst cornerback of all time then yeah not that bad. Teams threw at him every single time he came on the field, over and over again. He single handedly lost the Texas Holiday Bowl. He was the worst player UW has ever had and its not even close.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781


    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    He was bad, but I think Crichton was much worse. When Massey messed up, the whole crowd saw it. Crichton just skated around, did nothing, and fans were oblivious to the fact he sucked on every play.
    I'm not arguing. Massey's just the only guy I can think of who was in his stratosphere. At least Massey was always in good position, he just never seemed to make the play. I don't think he started nearly as many games as Talia did either.
    You nailed it. Massey really wasn't that bad, but he did have about the worst ball skills of any DB this side of Quentin Richardson.

    All of the freshman DB's in 2000 looked like they had bright futures. Derrick Johnson, Roc Alexander, Massey, Greg Carothers, and Jimmy Newell all played well when called upon. All of them seemed to get worse as their careers went on except for Johnson. Some of it was injuries, but the development during the late RN to Gilby years was terrible. Alexander seemed like a surefire star in 2000, but ended up having a pretty disappointing career.

    Has the whole world gone crazy? Massey wasn't that bad? If by not that bad you mean the worst cornerback of all time then yeah not that bad. Teams threw at him every single time he came on the field, over and over again. He single handedly lost the Texas Holiday Bowl. He was the worst player UW has ever had and its not even close.
    Bad, yes. Worse than Crichton, no. Massey had some good games, but like many players over the years got worse as the years past. Massey actually had a very good Rose Bowl game and was part of a pretty good secondary that year. Massey's legacy is the Holiday Bowl, but he did make some good plays over the years.

    Crichton had ZERO good games and made no good plays, ever. He started bad and stayed bad.
  • HeretoBeatmyChest
    HeretoBeatmyChest Member Posts: 4,295
    Chricton did sack the QB on 3rd down against OSU, putting them in 4th and 20 or 25. He initially got pushed so far out of the play but when Vaz was moving around in the pocket he moved in Chricton's direction leaving him wide open for a sack.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Chricton did sack the QB on 3rd down against OSU, putting them in 4th and 20 or 25. He initially got pushed so far out of the play but when Vaz was moving around in the pocket he moved in Chricton's direction leaving him wide open for a sack.

    Blind squirrel found a nut.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,143


    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    He was bad, but I think Crichton was much worse. When Massey messed up, the whole crowd saw it. Crichton just skated around, did nothing, and fans were oblivious to the fact he sucked on every play.
    I'm not arguing. Massey's just the only guy I can think of who was in his stratosphere. At least Massey was always in good position, he just never seemed to make the play. I don't think he started nearly as many games as Talia did either.
    You nailed it. Massey really wasn't that bad, but he did have about the worst ball skills of any DB this side of Quentin Richardson.

    All of the freshman DB's in 2000 looked like they had bright futures. Derrick Johnson, Roc Alexander, Massey, Greg Carothers, and Jimmy Newell all played well when called upon. All of them seemed to get worse as their careers went on except for Johnson. Some of it was injuries, but the development during the late RN to Gilby years was terrible. Alexander seemed like a surefire star in 2000, but ended up having a pretty disappointing career.

    Has the whole world gone crazy? Massey wasn't that bad? If by not that bad you mean the worst cornerback of all time then yeah not that bad. Teams threw at him every single time he came on the field, over and over again. He single handedly lost the Texas Holiday Bowl. He was the worst player UW has ever had and its not even close.
    You obviously never watched Quentin Richardson, Tripper Johnson, Johri Fogerson at safety, Darin Harris, I could go on and on.

    Yes, the Holiday Bowl was bad, and Massey wasn't very good. I don't disagree with that. He had more good games than Crichton though. He was car from the only DB that sucked during his time. Jimmy Newell was just as bad, if not worse.
  • IrishDawg22
    IrishDawg22 Member Posts: 2,754
    I think Hansen is coaching the RBs, which is a bigger fucking joke.

    JT was the man.
  • TierbsHsotBoobs
    TierbsHsotBoobs Member Posts: 39,680

    I think Hansen is coaching the RBs, which is a bigger fucking joke.

    JT was the man.

    Correct. Please pray for Cooper's ACLs.

    http://www.gohuskies.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=30200&SPID=126613&SPSID=749529
  • BAMAdawg10
    BAMAdawg10 Member Posts: 145


    Talia Crichton > Scott Crichton. Simple fact.

    Talia is likely the worst multi year starter I have ever seen at UW. Can anyone think of anyone less productive at their position, ever?

    Chris Massey?

    He was bad, but I think Crichton was much worse. When Massey messed up, the whole crowd saw it. Crichton just skated around, did nothing, and fans were oblivious to the fact he sucked on every play.
    I'm not arguing. Massey's just the only guy I can think of who was in his stratosphere. At least Massey was always in good position, he just never seemed to make the play. I don't think he started nearly as many games as Talia did either.
    You nailed it. Massey really wasn't that bad, but he did have about the worst ball skills of any DB this side of Quentin Richardson.

    All of the freshman DB's in 2000 looked like they had bright futures. Derrick Johnson, Roc Alexander, Massey, Greg Carothers, and Jimmy Newell all played well when called upon. All of them seemed to get worse as their careers went on except for Johnson. Some of it was injuries, but the development during the late RN to Gilby years was terrible. Alexander seemed like a surefire star in 2000, but ended up having a pretty disappointing career.

    Has the whole world gone crazy? Massey wasn't that bad? If by not that bad you mean the worst cornerback of all time then yeah not that bad. Teams threw at him every single time he came on the field, over and over again. He single handedly lost the Texas Holiday Bowl. He was the worst player UW has ever had and its not even close.
    Bad, yes. Worse than Crichton, no. Massey had some good games, but like many players over the years got worse as the years past. Massey actually had a very good Rose Bowl game and was part of a pretty good secondary that year. Massey's legacy is the Holiday Bowl, but he did make some good plays over the years.

    Crichton had ZERO good games and made no good plays, ever. He started bad and stayed bad.
    IrishDawg?? True????
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 11,453
    What about Ben Ossai or Cody Habben? I think they were 3 or 4 year starters who sucked as well.

    Chrichton was terrible and never became good yet was always a starter.
  • loadsock
    loadsock Member Posts: 686
    Massey had a few good games but he spent most of his career getting toasted. Crichton, however, spent the majority of his career (when he wasn't injured) greasing himself up with Aunt Jemima before he turned into a perpetual pancake on the DL.
  • TheKobeStopper
    TheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
    Since you all seem to insist that Massey had good games lets watch the only game someone has specifically pointed to.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=anwnX8vsOxY

    Here's the highlights.

    24:50 pass interference against Massey
    26:45 Massey gives up completion on 3rd down for first down in red zone
    29:10 Massey gives up a touchdown on 3rd and goal
    An entire touchdown drive brought to you by Chris Massey

    41 UW is in zone, Purdue throws to Masseys side of the field 2 straight times both times wide open, one complete one incomplete

    43:45 Massey gets beat but Brees over throws the ball in the end zone

    44:15 UW is in a zone but they complete a pass on 3rd and 10 with 40 seconds left in the half from around UWs 30, Massey is the closest defender

    44:50 UW is in zone Brees misses wide open Southerland for a touchdown, Massey is the closest defender

    Halftime

    53:45 UW is in zone, throws at Massey on 3rd and 10, easy first down

    102:15 Brees throws at Omare Lowe for the first time that I can remember, he knocks the ball down

    127:45 Brees scrambles finds an open Southerland who's being covered by Massey, bobbles the ball on the sideline no catch

    129:40 Massey gets beasted 20 yards down field on a 4th and 1, 40 yard TD run, he's the last man to beat because he got blocked so far downfield and misses the tackle

    135:10 the first time Massey causes an incompletion. The wr also slipped and fell, so there's that.

    142:45 2 and a half minutes left 4th and 1 from our own 45 up by 10, Rick goes for it and Tui gets it. God damn I loved that team.

    Ball game. Not much action in the second half, UW had the ball for like 22 minutes of it and ran for over 200 yards in the half. Please tell me more about how Chris Massey had good games.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,143
    @Kobeanalrapist- I love the factual post. Don't get me wrong, Massey wasn't very good. I still think he was better than Trooper, and some other clowns still through out there. At least I could find some nice plays by Massey. Crichton sucked all four years. For fucks sake, Crichton was a 3.5 year starter and had worse stats than Jamora did his freshman year.