SIMPLE QUESTION
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At some point you have to beat the teams ahead of you like Stanford and Oregon. We've been good enough t o beat 7-12 fairly consistently for a few yrs. Time to get over the hump.
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Swaye said:
A 3 footer with a little bit of elevation.doogsinparadise said:
They just lost to Wazzu at home, what the fuck else would you call them?Swaye said:I don't think Utah is a tap in.
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For me personally, the difference is I actually have faith in Petersen. Sark was always a keep your fingers crossed and pray he pulls something out of his ass situation.
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First, if it's like golf, let me keep score and we'll win 14.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
It's sort of like golf...
But we barely beat Hawaii and we barely beat Eastern at home.
You may say we should have started out better, and that may or may not be valid.
But to say the game we watched Saturday was an improvement over those two games isn't changing the rules, it is simply a fact.
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huh?mobey said:
First, if it's like golf, let me keep score and we'll win 14.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
It's sort of like golf...
But we barely beat Hawaii and we barely beat Eastern at home.
You may say we should have started out better, and that may or may not be valid.
But to say the game we watched Saturday was an improvement over those two games isn't changing the rules, it is simply a fact.
Sounds like you're saying progress can't be measured by the scoreboard - for the 15th year..
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Here's what's confusing by some of your posts.
Most of us think Sark was a lousy recruiter, not because he couldn't get good talent, but because his classes showed no balance and he got a stiffy for "skill" positions at a detriment to what really matters.
And most of us thought Sark didn't teach fundamentals or at least his teams were not fundamentally sound - and that includes mentally tough.
Now Peterman takes over that group and suddenly by game 5 our lines should be great and we should be putting up 30 on the #1 defense in the country.
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I didn't say anything to the affect that UW should beat Stanford by 30. Go back through the threads over the past 9 months. See what this boards expectations were for this year. PLSS suggested this could be an 8 or 9 win team and was boo'd off the board.mobey said:Here's what's confusing by some of your posts.
Most of us think Sark was a lousy recruiter, not because he couldn't get good talent, but because his classes showed no balance and he got a stiffy for "skill" positions at a detriment to what really matters.
And most of us thought Sark didn't teach fundamentals or at least his teams were not fundamentally sound - and that includes mentally tough.
Now Peterman takes over that group and suddenly by game 5 our lines should be great and we should be putting up 30 on the #1 defense in the country.
It's like wiping before you poop, it doesn't make sense.
I'm just amused that so many of the things that we relentlessly mocked doogs for saying are now being repeated by HHBs. -
And it sounds like you're saying Eastern Eagles = Stanford Cardinals.MikeDamone said:
huh?mobey said:
First, if it's like golf, let me keep score and we'll win 14.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
It's sort of like golf...
But we barely beat Hawaii and we barely beat Eastern at home.
You may say we should have started out better, and that may or may not be valid.
But to say the game we watched Saturday was an improvement over those two games isn't changing the rules, it is simply a fact.
Sounds like you're saying progress can't be measured by the scoreboard - for the 15th year..
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defense looks better.
Peterson said the offensive playbook is too big, lending to poor execution. Will be dialed back
Peterson said coaching needs to be looked at in depth...IE Jonathan Smith -
EWU gave UW all they could handle for a win.mobey said:
And it sounds like you're saying Eastern Eagles = Stanford Cardinals.MikeDamone said:
huh?mobey said:
First, if it's like golf, let me keep score and we'll win 14.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
It's sort of like golf...
But we barely beat Hawaii and we barely beat Eastern at home.
You may say we should have started out better, and that may or may not be valid.
But to say the game we watched Saturday was an improvement over those two games isn't changing the rules, it is simply a fact.
Sounds like you're saying progress can't be measured by the scoreboard - for the 15th year..
UW scored 6 points against Stanford in a loss,
Sounds about right.
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Like the Nike RZN golf ball commercials about making the holes bigger. The 13 game schedule was contrived to get Sark to 10 wins. It seems only HHs demand higher performance in conference.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
It's sort of like golf... -
Thanks for those tidbits.
Jonathan Smith was the OC at Montana for two years and Brent Pease was the OC at BSU for 2011 and UF for 2012 and 2013. Petersen himself was a well-regarded OC so it's not like there aren't coaches on the staff who have never called plays.
Does anyone know what "offensive genius" Sarkisian's teams averaged vs. Stanford in his 5 games against them? 16 points.
I was disappointed with the blitz pick-ups but they weren't horrid. Strausser gets them for two more weeks and Riva can't come back soon enough.
It's not hard to believe the O will look a lot better against Kal but will we get good enough / consistent QB play down the road to beat UCLA at home? ASU at home? @ Arizona? That's why we all tune in.jecornel said:defense looks better.
Peterson said the offensive playbook is too big, lending to poor execution. Will be dialed back
Peterson said coaching needs to be looked at in depth...IE Jonathan Smith -
And WSU may require a chip in from the green due to snow.Swaye said:I don't think Utah is a tap in.
More like a 3 footer with some slope.
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Replacing 9-4 > 0-12. Bare cupboards and banged waitresses notwithstanding.MikeDamone said:
One could argue that Petersen has a tougher job replacing Sark than Sark did replacing willingham.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Are we better today than when Sark took over for Willingham? No and that's Sark's fault. Peter is doing the best he can.
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Expectations are different though. Sark lived off Owen12 for almost five years. He got an ovation for losing.Homebrew_Dawg said:
Replacing 9-4 > 0-12. Bare cupboards and banged waitresses notwithstanding.MikeDamone said:
One could argue that Petersen has a tougher job replacing Sark than Sark did replacing willingham.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Are we better today than when Sark took over for Willingham? No and that's Sark's fault. Peter is doing the best he can.
Petermen is operating under the myth of Sark the great recruiter. No slack. I heard a ton of boos Saturday. People expect a lot more out of him.
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The season just started two days ago.mobey said:Are we better today then we were to start the year?
I think it would be hard to answer that "no".
If Peterman can get the team to improve week to week, I think the rest will take care of itself.
Will we win 10 this year? WTFK
But we haven't had a coach since DJ that actually improved the team week to week during the season.
On a side note, coaches FU by trying to get Miles to stay in the pocket. They should worry about that once he's good enough to operate from the pocket. Until then, let him be Kraperpick.
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#SvenIsRightTierbsHsotBoobs said:
The season just started two days ago.mobey said:Are we better today then we were to start the year?
I think it would be hard to answer that "no".
If Peterman can get the team to improve week to week, I think the rest will take care of itself.
Will we win 10 this year? WTFK
But we haven't had a coach since DJ that actually improved the team week to week during the season.
On a side note, coaches FU by trying to get Miles to stay in the pocket. They should worry about that once he's good enough to operate from the pocket. Until then, let him be Kraperpick.
How the fuck am I supposed to answer this question? -
When did Auburndoog hack your account?MikeDamone said:
If UW can win the tap ins and one or two of the UO, UCLA, and Arizona teams, I think that would be an extraordinary coaching job by Petersen and would bode well for the future. He has a lot of work to do. Based on the the first 5 games, I don't think WSU is a tap in.RaceBannon said:We won't know until we play Oregon, UCLA, and the serious Arizona schools. Those teams have the offense we couldn't stop the last five years.
We have to make the tap ins against Cal, Colorado, Utah and WSU. The season hinges on the top four games. We will know if we are better
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Can't we just enjoy next year's scrimmages already?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The season just started two days ago.mobey said:Are we better today then we were to start the year?
I think it would be hard to answer that "no".
If Peterman can get the team to improve week to week, I think the rest will take care of itself.
Will we win 10 this year? WTFK
But we haven't had a coach since DJ that actually improved the team week to week during the season.
On a side note, coaches FU by trying to get Miles to stay in the pocket. They should worry about that once he's good enough to operate from the pocket. Until then, let him be Kraperpick.
How the fuck am I supposed to answer this question? -
I'm not following...why are we chipping from the green? Because there's snow on the green?Homebrew_Dawg said:
And WSU may require a chip in from the green due to snow.Swaye said:I don't think Utah is a tap in.
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So the defense that got torched over and over by Eastern and the defense you saw Saturday were indistinguishable?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The season just started two days ago.mobey said:Are we better today then we were to start the year?
I think it would be hard to answer that "no".
If Peterman can get the team to improve week to week, I think the rest will take care of itself.
Will we win 10 this year? WTFK
But we haven't had a coach since DJ that actually improved the team week to week during the season.
On a side note, coaches FU by trying to get Miles to stay in the pocket. They should worry about that once he's good enough to operate from the pocket. Until then, let him be Kraperpick.
How the fuck am I supposed to answer this question?
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What is this Eastern you are referencing?mobey said:
So the defense that got torched over and over by Eastern and the defense you saw Saturday were indistinguishable?TierbsHsotBoobs said:
The season just started two days ago.mobey said:Are we better today then we were to start the year?
I think it would be hard to answer that "no".
If Peterman can get the team to improve week to week, I think the rest will take care of itself.
Will we win 10 this year? WTFK
But we haven't had a coach since DJ that actually improved the team week to week during the season.
On a side note, coaches FU by trying to get Miles to stay in the pocket. They should worry about that once he's good enough to operate from the pocket. Until then, let him be Kraperpick.
How the fuck am I supposed to answer this question?
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