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I think it would be hard to answer that "no".
If Peterman can get the team to improve week to week, I think the rest will take care of itself.
Will we win 10 this year? WTFK
But we haven't had a coach since DJ that actually improved the team week to week during the season.
On a side note, coaches FU by trying to get Miles to stay in the pocket. They should worry about that once he's good enough to operate from the pocket. Until then, let him be Kraperpick.
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Offense has regressed, check the facts.
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Defense has progressed, check the facts. ST's has progressed, check the facts. LIPOdoogsinparadise said:Offense has regressed, check the facts.
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Hey Chicken Little, we just played the #1 D so did you expect us to score 28 on them again with new starters at QB, RB, TE, 2 WR spots, and a back-up RT? Betting on the under of 58 was like taking candy from a baby.
And Don James was 11-11 his first two seasons and was on the hot seat when he started 1-3 in his 3rd year so if the internet existed back then, you would've said we were spinning our wheels right?
We can still win 10 games this year, especially if you are including a bowl game. If you are talking about winning 10 regular season games, that's still possible but looking less likely unless we get better QB and OL play. I know Strausser likes his OGs to be bigger but Charles and Atoe look like they've added about 10 pounds of fat and are thus a little too slow. Not having Riva has also been a problem because, while Coleman Shelton has looked pretty good for a RS-Frosh, he's not a RS-SR with dozens of starts under his belt and years in the weight room.
We can only lose two more Pac-12 games if we want to get to 10 regular season wins and unless Petersen pulls a rabbit out of his hat at Oregon like he did coaching BSU, one has to think there's a loss there as well. I anticipate that we'll win @ Cal, @ Colorado, against OSU, and @ WSU (our pass-rush will get to Holliday and guys like Sidney Jones, BB, and Kevin King will have a season's worth of starts).
That means we can only drop 1 game of 3 of vs. ASU, vs. UCLA, and @ Arizona but it's still doable. Of course, if Miles can't figure out how to pass from the pocket rather than getting happy feet if his 1st read isn't open, he probably won't last the season. So if he's hurt do we put in RS-Soph Lindquist who seems to have everything but the most important thing for QBs (accuracy) or a RS-Frosh who has everything except experience and ball security? -
A legitimate question is if the offense is too complex for Miles? We are not running the exact same offense, but Boise State had a complex offensive system with Kellen Moore.
It hasn't been all bad though. If we keep winning the turnover margin at the rate we have, we will win 10+ games. I do think the team is getting better. The defense certainly has improved and I'm sold the offense has really regressed. We'll see how it performs the next two or three games, before making a definitive statement. Stanford might be the best defense we played all year and it will be interesting to see how other teams in the conference perform against their defense. Or it won't be interesting. Who the fuck knows? -
Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
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I say we pick up Kellen Moore from the Lions. Miles, Atoe, Ossai and a player to be named later.
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I'll take "what did doogs say to prop up Sark for $1000 Alex:"
"And Don James was 11-11 his first two seasons and was on the hot seat when he started 1-3 in his 3rd year so if the internet existed back then, you would've said we were spinning our wheels right?" -
This game played out very similar to the Stanford/UW game two years ago. The only difference is Sankey running for a 40 yard touchdown on 4th and 1.
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Hi Splooge! If you're here to make excuses for shitty football I'd advise you to LEAVE and head back to dogman.Disciple_2_Hole said:
Defense has progressed, check the facts. ST's has progressed, check the facts. LIPOdoogsinparadise said:Offense has regressed, check the facts.
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UW is way better.
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WTF. Losing to a Pelini coached Nebraska team is entirely different than losing to a better coached team (Stanford) that happens to be the two-time defending Pac-12 champ.
And WTF II because if we still win 10 regular season games (admittedly, looking less likely), that means we'd win 6 conference games for the first time since 2001. So yes, this 10 win bullshit matters. Of course, if Petersen wins 9 games that means he'd match the best Sloppy Steve did in his 5 years at UW.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
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We're not a great team, but we didn't get rolled up by Stanford. Sark would get flat out embarrassed by any team with a pulse. I still think Stanford is great, because their defense is elite with top-level talent where it counts. A TD return called back, Timu doesn't return a surefire pick to the house, etc. We made some big plays and left some big plays on the field because of penalties/dumbassery. I hold that and the 4th down calls against the coaching staff for this game; I expect those to be cleaned up by Cal.
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Disagree. This year and 2011 really aren't that similar. We aren't a dominate team. Did you think we were going to be? I get it, losing sucks and we want UW to be a top team. Part of the reason for hope is the coach. In 2011, the defense was porous and there was no hope that it could get fixed. Holt sucked and Sark had no fucking clue about how to fix a defense. Petersen on the other hand, almost always fielded great offenses at Boise. I don't think we will have a great offense, but that is the worst we will play all year. Stanford was very likely the best defense we will play all year and it probably isn't close.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
It's sort of like golf...
The rules haven't changed. It was always 10+ wins and the schedule played a part in that prediction. 6-3 in conference is still possible and is the benchmark for praise. 5-4 would be meh. The only game that is a near certain loss is Oregon. ASU and UCLA at home will be tough games. Arizona and WSU are tough road games. Go 3-1 in these games and that's 10-3 (6-3). -
Uh Huh... and if they run the table, that would be great.HFNY said:WTF. Losing to a Pelini coached Nebraska team is entirely different than losing to a better coached team (Stanford) that happens to
be the two-time defending Pac-12 champ.have lost 14 starters from last year and lost this year to sloppy Steve at home.
And WTF II because if we still win 10 regular season games (admittedly, looking less likely), that means we'd win 6 conference games for the first time since 2001. So yes, this 10 win bullshit matters. Of course, if Petersen wins 9 games that means he'd match the best Sloppy Steve did in his 5 years at UW.MikeDamone said:Some here remind me a lot of the doogs in 2011 when UW was 5-1 with a loss to Nebraska. The writing was on the wall, but some wanted to just be happy with 5-1 and claim that Nebraska was unbeatable no matter what so it was OK. But there was a pattern, the HHB's saw it and were mocked for pointing it out. UW beat the weakest pac-12 teams and was rolled by the upper tier teams.
Same thing is happening now, except some here are clinging to nothing but hope in the face of very telling statistics.
And stop with the 10 win bullshit. That proves nothing with the shitty preseason and a 13 game schedule. HHs measure success or failure in conference. We can't change the rules for Petersen.
It's sort of like golf...
You should post that here http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=147
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Good points and I'm not sure about the offense. Thankfully they have a bye week to work on things and get guys healthy (Riva, KW, maybe Ross is still a little banged up).
UCLA's is pretty good but not remotely close to Stanford so Stanford will definitely be the best D we'll play this year. After 5 games into the season, only Oregon and Oregon State are in the top 50 so far (41st and 43rd):
ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/28RoadDawg55 said:A legitimate question is if the offense is too complex for Miles? We are not running the exact same offense, but Boise State had a complex offensive system with Kellen Moore.
It hasn't been all bad though. If we keep winning the turnover margin at the rate we have, we will win 10+ games. I do think the team is getting better. The defense certainly has improved and I'm sold the offense has really regressed. We'll see how it performs the next two or three games, before making a definitive statement. Stanford might be the best defense we played all year and it will be interesting to see how other teams in the conference perform against their defense. Or it won't be interesting. Who the fuck knows? -
UW didn't get rolled by Stanford last year either.haie said:We're not a great team, but we didn't get rolled up by Stanford. Sark would get flat out embarrassed by any team with a pulse. I still think Stanford is great, because their defense is elite with top-level talent where it counts. A TD return called back, Timu doesn't return a surefire pick to the house, etc. We made some big plays and left some big plays on the field because of penalties/dumbassery. I hold that and the 4th down calls against the coaching staff for this game; I expect those to be cleaned up by Cal.
HTH
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MikeDamone said:
UW didn't get rolled by Stanford the lasthaie said:We're not a great team, but we didn't get rolled up by Stanford. Sark would get flat out embarrassed by any team with a pulse. I still think Stanford is great, because their defense is elite with top-level talent where it counts. A TD return called back, Timu doesn't return a surefire pick to the house, etc. We made some big plays and left some big plays on the field because of penalties/dumbassery. I hold that and the 4th down calls against the coaching staff for this game; I expect those to be cleaned up by Cal.
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We won't know until we play Oregon, UCLA, and the serious Arizona schools. Those teams have the offense we couldn't stop the last five years.
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They just lost to Wazzu at home, what the fuck else would you call them?Swaye said:I don't think Utah is a tap in.
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A 3 footer with a little bit of slope.doogsinparadise said:
They just lost to Wazzu at home, what the fuck else would you call them?Swaye said:I don't think Utah is a tap in.
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If UW can win the tap ins and one or two of the UO, UCLA, and Arizona teams, I think that would be an extraordinary coaching job by Petersen and would bode well for the future. He has a lot of work to do. Based on the the first 5 games, I don't think WSU is a tap in.RaceBannon said:We won't know until we play Oregon, UCLA, and the serious Arizona schools. Those teams have the offense we couldn't stop the last five years.
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This 10 win stuff is garbage. I would be extremely happy with the play of the defense so far, and the offensive struggles can be explained by Petersen implementing a brand new system. The two major flaws so far just need time to correct.
Cyler needs to get more game experience before he can step up in big games. Mariota played like crap his freshman year against Stanford as well. The only way Cyler is going to improve is to be given time for Peterson to unteach what Sark taught him, and then get him doing things the right way.
Your running backs are below average, lets face the facts. Not going to fix that this year, but give Peterson a year to recruit some talent at that position.
However, I really like his focus on the lines with regard to recruiting so far. Petersen at least looks competent, which I couldn't say with your last two hires. Peterson might not work out, but I would have a lot more hope. Also, the wait till next year line might of some credence given your current coaches track record. Until he proves me wrong, I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. However, instead of wins and losses this year, I would focus more on the actual football product being displayed. Is it better? or is it not? That is really all that is important in year one. I'm still LIPO on the product though until we get a few more games into the Pac 12 schedule.
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Huh?doogsinparadise said:
Hi Splooge! If you're here to make excuses for shitty football I'd advise you to LEAVE and head back to dogman.Disciple_2_Hole said:
Defense has progressed, check the facts. ST's has progressed, check the facts. LIPOdoogsinparadise said:Offense has regressed, check the facts.
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Are we better today than when Sark took over for Willingham? No and that's Sark's fault. Peter is doing the best he can.
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One could argue that Petersen has a tougher job replacing Sark than Sark did replacing willingham.puppylove_sugarsteel said:Are we better today than when Sark took over for Willingham? No and that's Sark's fault. Peter is doing the best he can.
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I finally watched the Cal and Wazzu games yesterday. Even with Coleman and Washington we should run right the fuck through them. Halladay starts a game throwing a pick 6, Cal getting down by 2 scores to Colorado at home, on top of both teams having shit defenses. Those fucktards make us look like the most efficient team in the pac.MikeDamone said:
If UW can win the tap ins and one or two of the UO, UCLA, and Arizona teams, I think that would be an extraordinary coaching job by Petersen and would bode well for the future. He has a lot of work to do. Based on the the first 5 games, I don't think WSU is a tap in.RaceBannon said:We won't know until we play Oregon, UCLA, and the serious Arizona schools. Those teams have the offense we couldn't stop the last five years.
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And Stanford had a crappy QB named Josh Nunes who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
Hogan has his limitations as a QB (loopy delivery, not as funky as Miles') but he's a winner with a 19-4 record as a starter.greenblood said:This game played out very similar to the Stanford/UW game two years ago. The only difference is Sankey running for a 40 yard touchdown on 4th and 1.
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We don't play Utah this year so take them out and put at home vs. OSU.RaceBannon said:
We won't know until we play Oregon, UCLA, and the serious Arizona schools. Those teams have the offense we couldn't stop the last five years.
We have to make the tap ins against Cal, Colorado, Utah and WSU. The season hinges on the top four games. We will know if we are better
