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I appreciate the brevity many provide on these boards for the majority of poasts, however once in a while it's nice to actually have a discussion which doesn't surround DM.c and p0rN shots and centers around a topic. I like to read others thoughts and debate. I fucking hate twitter and all it represents to undermine any thought or debate. The reason 21st century kids are continuing down a spiral of stupidity is that fact they don't actually debate topics in more than 140 characters. I'm not even old and i get tired of the whole condensed poast after poast.
Shouldn't speculate on Williams. No one has any clue about him when the lights come on
Peterman has his work cut out grooming a QB but I haven't given up on the two FR. Frankly I doubt Seven bailed do to the QB situation, my guess is getting a new job and another 3+ years he can bank $10M before he gets fired. Had he stayed at UW he was likely getting fired after the 2015 season IMO. He's going to need house money when he becomes the QB coach for the Raiders in 2017/18.
This whole thread is Tequilla Long, Don't Read now.
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Fuck off you illiterate slumberchub
Sounds to me like you and Tequilla need to fuck already.
Sorry...can't agree with the premise here DJ. You can and should point out that our former QB guru can't develop a QB for the life of him, but saying that there is no Pac12 talent between 4 underclassman QBs that were recruited by most of the Pac12 and the country ain't correct. Saying its looked like they've only been holding a clipboard and smoking dubies since they arrived might be.
Our offensive game plan on Saturday was offensive...there is no sugar coating that. That's on Smith...if your QBs have limitations you design you game plan (and alternatives) around it, and it didn't happened. Lindy blows, but if your gameplan is only running the zone read over and over at least he can run it and maybe even run it himself once.
As long as it gets better over the season that's ok...we have an entirely new staff and a new OC that is figuring things out. It would be crazy to think we were going to not lose a few with the change in coaches and at the skill positions. The next teams, even the Ducks, aren't going to have Stanford's front 7 so it should get better. They will all use this as a template (load the line and make whatever QB we drag out hit a few passes) and we'll see if our OC is worth a damn. Peterman appears to like his coaches to coach, and if means that he's got to get more involved with the OC so be it.
That said, if it doesn't get better and there aren't some changes then its on Peterman...
Sark is a fucking tool, but I have to begrudgingly respect him for skipping town when he did. He would have been exposed as a fraud with these QBs. And instead got paid by USC for 5 years and left the problems to his UW successor.
Fuck Sark. I want to hate the player and not the game... But damn. What a playa.
I saw a young qb that got rattled by a talented defense and good scheme on Saturday. And I don't think our play calling did him any favors. 4 starts this year do not give us a big enough body of work to pass final judgment, considering that three of them came against dreck. If he looks like shit against the next 3-4 quality teams, then I think we can press the panic button on the QB spot.
There is absolutely no way Petersen makes a change from Miles unless he has a dreckfest of a 1st half against Kal's leaky anus of a defense.
Kal's offense is pretty good so if Miles and the O he runs hasn't improved over the next two weeks with the bye and we're down, say, 17-3 at half, then yeah I see Williams coming in if he has a good two weeks of practice. I like having Lindquist on the roster for the WildSwede and he's big with a strong-arm but he really lacks accuracy.
But who knows, we haven't seen Miles against an average or bad Pac-12 defense when he's supposed to be the man. Last year he looked good subbing in @ UCLA and crushing the Beavs when they couldn't stop the running game but it was still KP's team.
I saw a young qb that got rattled by a talented defense and good scheme on Saturday. And I don't think our play calling did him any favors. 4 starts this year do not give us a big enough body of work to pass final judgment, considering that three of them came against dreck. If he looks like shit against the next 3-4 quality teams, then I think we can press the panic button on the QB spot.
Two things really give me a lot of concern with Miles:
1) He's shown an absolute inability to consistently throw an intermediate pass in really any game this year (including the preseason scrimmages). That speaks volumes to me about not being able to anticipate, not being able to trust in your teammates to get to those spots, and not trusting your own abilities to fit the ball to where it needs to be.
2) He's looked extremely rattled and overwhelmed when any team tries to blitz him (although you also have to put some of this on the OL not standing up better). However, in numerous instances blitzes will be called, then they will be tipped, and Cyler seemingly gets swallowed up whereas any high caliber QB if you tip your blitz and don't kill it as a result will give you the plungering that the defense deserves for tipping it.
If you can't do these two things as a QB, you can't play the QB position at a high level. Forget everything else. These are fundamental attributes that EVERY high level QB needs.
At least in the Hawaii game Lindquist gave you 1 half of play where not only could you see that he had the ability to be competent before the 2nd half started and the inexperience took over. If Miles gave you 1 half of competent football yesterday we're sitting here talking about a win yesterday.
It's beyond TequillaFS to compare Stanford's defense to Hawaii's defense.
Sure looks to me like the QBs have regressed. I mean, I get the blame Sark campaign, he did a lot of mediocre to bad things up there (and now seems to be doing the same at USC ugh) but Peterson has had these QBs since January. Does he get no blame for having 9+ months and seeing regression? Miles definitely looked better last year, in fact, I was upset USC never had a shot at him after watching him look so smooth against Ucla, etc.
I think there's plenty to blame Sark for in the UW program, but I'm not sure this is one of them. It certainly is an interesting state of affairs with our two programs right now. I'm a Peterson fan so I'm closely watching both UW and obviously USC for the next couple years and it looks to be more than entertaining.
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I appreciate the brevity many provide on these boards for the majority of poasts, however once in a while it's nice to actually have a discussion which doesn't surround DM.c and p0rN shots and centers around a topic. I like to read others thoughts and debate. I fucking hate twitter and all it represents to undermine any thought or debate. The reason 21st century kids are continuing down a spiral of stupidity is that fact they don't actually debate topics in more than 140 characters. I'm not even old and i get tired of the whole condensed poast after poast.
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Fuck off you illiterate slumberchub
Our offensive game plan on Saturday was offensive...there is no sugar coating that. That's on Smith...if your QBs have limitations you design you game plan (and alternatives) around it, and it didn't happened. Lindy blows, but if your gameplan is only running the zone read over and over at least he can run it and maybe even run it himself once.
As long as it gets better over the season that's ok...we have an entirely new staff and a new OC that is figuring things out. It would be crazy to think we were going to not lose a few with the change in coaches and at the skill positions. The next teams, even the Ducks, aren't going to have Stanford's front 7 so it should get better. They will all use this as a template (load the line and make whatever QB we drag out hit a few passes) and we'll see if our OC is worth a damn. Peterman appears to like his coaches to coach, and if means that he's got to get more involved with the OC so be it.
That said, if it doesn't get better and there aren't some changes then its on Peterman...
-HH
This thread is reason number 81 why the HHB bored is boring after a win.
Kal's offense is pretty good so if Miles and the O he runs hasn't improved over the next two weeks with the bye and we're down, say, 17-3 at half, then yeah I see Williams coming in if he has a good two weeks of practice. I like having Lindquist on the roster for the WildSwede and he's big with a strong-arm but he really lacks accuracy.
But who knows, we haven't seen Miles against an average or bad Pac-12 defense when he's supposed to be the man. Last year he looked good subbing in @ UCLA and crushing the Beavs when they couldn't stop the running game but it was still KP's team.
1) He's shown an absolute inability to consistently throw an intermediate pass in really any game this year (including the preseason scrimmages). That speaks volumes to me about not being able to anticipate, not being able to trust in your teammates to get to those spots, and not trusting your own abilities to fit the ball to where it needs to be.
2) He's looked extremely rattled and overwhelmed when any team tries to blitz him (although you also have to put some of this on the OL not standing up better). However, in numerous instances blitzes will be called, then they will be tipped, and Cyler seemingly gets swallowed up whereas any high caliber QB if you tip your blitz and don't kill it as a result will give you the plungering that the defense deserves for tipping it.
If you can't do these two things as a QB, you can't play the QB position at a high level. Forget everything else. These are fundamental attributes that EVERY high level QB needs.
CYLER MILES FAILS, IT IS STEVE SARKISIAN'S FAULT, IF CYLER MILES SUCCEEDS, IT IS CHRIS PETERSEN'S COACHING. THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN, LIKE MAYBE WE ARE AN OFFENSE IN TRANSITION? MAYBE CYLER MISSING OUT ON SPRING BALL HAD AN IMPACT? STANFORD PLAYERS REALLY, REALLY GOOD DEFENSE?? NOPE... SARKISIAN IS A TERRIBLE QB GURU.
LET IT PLAY OUT, IT'LL WILL SORT ITSELF OUT. HE AND HIS FORMER BFF KIM GRINOLDS ARE HAVING A TIFF IN PUBLIC WITH COMPETING HEADLINES. DEREK JOHNSON WAS FIRED FROM DAWGMAN YEARS AGO AND HE HAS YET TO GET OVER IT.
ACCORDING TO THIS CLOWN, THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON IS A DUMPSTER FIRE.
Par for TequillaFS' course
LEAVE!!!
I think there's plenty to blame Sark for in the UW program, but I'm not sure this is one of them. It certainly is an interesting state of affairs with our two programs right now. I'm a Peterson fan so I'm closely watching both UW and obviously USC for the next couple years and it looks to be more than entertaining.